Gamecube to drop to 149 on 5/21

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imn8

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Originally posted by: phreakyzen<brAlso Xbox is losing all EA online games for the future because they are forcing software developers into using a MS network. EA just set up their own million dollar network and is upset about MS network desision.

EA gone
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I'm not sure that's important. Xbox still has SEGA Sports, which gets my vote over EA.

 

byror

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also, nintendo recently revealed their online plans and have announced they "will not require royalty fees from revenue generated by a publisher's game played online through the NINTENDO GAMECUBE". seems like a good thing.

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iahk

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Originally posted by: imn8
Originally posted by: phreakyzen<brAlso Xbox is losing all EA online games for the future because they are forcing software developers into using a MS network. EA just set up their own million dollar network and is upset about MS network desision.

EA gone
More of the same

I'm not sure that's important. Xbox still has SEGA Sports, which gets my vote over EA.

Amen to that brotha! EA Sports has gone down the drain.

But what about regular EA games?
 

RayCathode

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Sorry if this is old news...
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LOS ANGELES, May 20 (Reuters) - Video game publisher Nintendo Co. Ltd. (7974.OS) said on Monday it would cut the U.S. price of its GameCube console by about 25 percent, in a bid to retain its advantage in the $20 billion international video game business.

Nintendo, most famous for Mario, its squat and rotund franchise character, lowered the price to $149.95 from $199, with effect from May 21.

"We were thrilled to be able to come out at $199 ... so we're just going to be ahead of the game at 149," Perrin Kaplan, vice president of corporate communications, told Reuters. "We started aggressive and this just continues it."

Kaplan said there were no plans to drop hardware prices elsewhere, or to cut prices of top software titles from $49.99

http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/020520/tech_nintendo_price_1.html
 

VisionsUCI

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hmm.. i think i'll definitely invest in a dvd burner in the near future. i might support on some of the games i love.. but it would be a great way to try out the less popular ones.
 

unclebud

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"will not require royalty fees from revenue generated by a publisher's game played online through the NINTENDO GAMECUBE"
*shrugs* TWO days ago they said they weren't dropping the price either
a corporation doesn't change it's spots (stocks? ), read GAME OVER
 

LilBlinbBlahIce

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Maybe someone can clarify.
Microsoft was already losing a ton on the X-box as it sells for a lot less than it costs to build. I know everyone says that they make the money on the games, and at $299 I'm sure they would, but at $199? A friend of mine told me that they are retooling the system to make it less expensive. Does that meen cheaper components, slower processor or what? Anywone hear anything about Microsoft going Hyundai on the X-box?
 

agrall

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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Maybe someone can clarify.
Microsoft was already losing a ton on the X-box as it sells for a lot less than it costs to build. I know everyone says that they make the money on the games, and at $299 I'm sure they would, but at $199? A friend of mine told me that they are retooling the system to make it less expensive. Does that meen cheaper components, slower processor or what? Anywone hear anything about Microsoft going Hyundai on the X-box?

Don't worry... Your friend just doesn't have a clue...
 

Supahfreak

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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Maybe someone can clarify.
Microsoft was already losing a ton on the X-box as it sells for a lot less than it costs to build. I know everyone says that they make the money on the games, and at $299 I'm sure they would, but at $199? A friend of mine told me that they are retooling the system to make it less expensive. Does that meen cheaper components, slower processor or what? Anywone hear anything about Microsoft going Hyundai on the X-box?

If you think about it all the consoles are inferior to when they first came out. When I first got my 1.3 Athlon it was the sh!t, now not so much:disgust: Technology has a way of not waiting for anybody. They prolly can build them for cheaper now because of component price decreases and improved build efficiency.

Just a thought,

FreAk
 

dimwit

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I would go Xbox first, it has the fastest CPU and GPU, and has a hard drive and ethernet card built in. The games will be there for it eventually. PS2 is great, but a little older technology. Sony and MS have deep pockets, and the only thing keeping GC around is the GB, GBC and GBA.

My favorite is still DC though, great graphics for the price.
 

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In regards to the "are they losing money selling the systems?" arguments:

Let's remember that Sony, Nintendo, and especially Microsoft are companies with incredibly deep pockets. Let's say that Microsoft is losing $100 on every console they sell, and they are going to sell 5 million Xboxes this year. So they would lose $500 million on those transactions.

$500 million is pretty much pocket change for Microsoft. This is a company with assets of over $100 billion. Bill Gates is worth nearly $100 billion by himself.

In the meantime, they would be making a ton of money selling games for the XBox (surely recouping all losses), and they are gaining valuable marketshare and "mindshare" in what had previously been a closed market. Microsoft is looking five and ten years down the road, when the integrated set-top box will be much more powerful and come closer to the technology convergence that we have been hearing about for so long. (One box for all entertainment needs.) If they have to lose money now to get a strong foothold in that incredibly lucrative business model down the road, it is a small price to pay.
 

st0nefry

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Any losses incurred by these companies are not due to hardware prices. They Are selling the consoles for a higher price than the hardware costs without a doubt. The loss comes when you factor in the developement of the hardware. They're paying a bunch of guys 6 figure salaries for over a year probably before any revenues are seen. These losses are hopefully recouped when the system starts selling. So, the loss gets a little lower for each console sold until they start turning a profit. Could take a long time, but the software sales obviously make money a lot quicker.

It's the same situation when a new CPU comes out. Really expensive to help pay for CPU developers which, I imagine, are pretty expensive.

-st0nefry
 

st0nefry

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Maybe someone can clarify. Microsoft was already losing a ton on the X-box as it sells for a lot less than it costs to build. I know everyone says that they make the money on the games, and at $299 I'm sure they would, but at $199? A friend of mine told me that they are retooling the system to make it less expensive. Does that meen cheaper components, slower processor or what? Anywone hear anything about Microsoft going Hyundai on the X-box?

The simple fact is that nobody really knows that Microsoft is losing a ton of money on the Xbox hardware. It's just a rumor. I imagine you can get some pretty fat discounts when you order 50,000 Hard Drives, or 100,000 flash roms, or whatever.

Systems get re-tooled all the time. Playstation 2 already has 4 revisions. I don't know if they did it to cut costs, but the design DID change. There is no way that Microsoft would change the performance of the Xbox though (slower cpu). No way.
 

CKDragon

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I'm getting a GC in a month simply for the multiplayer games. The only reason I am buying any next-gen console is so I can enjoy games with my friends, GC is clearly the system for me with Super Smash Bros, Super Monkey Ball and the new Cube version of Mario Party. Not to mention the new Wrestlemania game for GC... the X-Box WWE game sucked.

CK
 

st0nefry

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Originally posted by: CKDragon
I'm getting a GC in a month simply for the multiplayer games. The only reason I am buying any next-gen console is so I can enjoy games with my friends, GC is clearly the system for me with Super Smash Bros, Super Monkey Ball and the new Cube version of Mario Party. Not to mention the new Wrestlemania game for GC... the X-Box WWE game sucked.

CK

Well if you want to play multiplayer games and you don't have a Dreamcast, hang your head in shame. If you do have one though, uhhmm, ... good.

Seriously though, Bomberman on-line, Ooga-Booga, Sega Swirl, Virtual Tennis, the list of great 4 player games on Dreamcast is pretty dang long. $50 for a new console, $12 for new controllers, $10 (or free) for games. No brainer. Hot Deal. 'Nuf said.

st0nefry
 

CKDragon

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Well if you want to play multiplayer games and you don't have a Dreamcast, hang your head in shame. If you do have one though, uhhmm, ... good.

I bought a Dreamcast the first day it was launched. Been having Soul Caliber tourneys ever since.

CK
 

Dragnov

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Frick! I expected a price drop but not this early! Damn, I jsut spent all my money, now I have to wait another 2 weeks for my paycheck.
 

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A company will lose money for only so long before they give up. No matter how much money a company has... they will not continue to put money into a dead horse. If the XBox does not take off by next year at this time it will be the next Dreamcast. It needs to make some kind of impact in Japan or Europe or else it's history...



 

wolfpacrules

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Gamecube sucks, can't even make copies of the game since the disc is specially formatted.
Get X box or PS2.
BTW more than 10% of PS2 owners have experienced problem with PS2, and it takes lot of $ to fix it, PS2 is good , but Sony sucks
 

dimwit

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If the XBox does not take off by next year at this time it will be the next Dreamcast

Tain't gonna happen. MS has plenty of money and patience. And I do believe that after you take the development costs out, they can make a Xbox for less than $200. 733Mhz CPU, 64MB RAM, 8GB HD and so on are very cheap.
 
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