[gamegpu] Dragon Age Inquisition performance

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SPBHM

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the CPU usage is higher because the game was being limited by the GPU performance, making the CPU work with less frames per second
 

escrow4

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Why are AMD drivers so poor in that 720p graph? Huge gaps compared to Nvidia. I can confirm the heavy the CPU usage my 5930K @ 1200p loads all 6 cores at an even 3.7GHz. Around ~55FPS maxed out with a 780 Ti @ 1215MHz in game. Vysnc locked in some areas to 60FPS. Haven't seen it drop below around mid 50s in other areas.
 

Carfax83

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He's just trying to muddy up the conversation in stating that at a lower resolution, you'd get higher FPS, so the CPU usage goes up. Of course that is assuming that you aren't CPU bound.

The point is, it takes the same CPU usage to produce a frame, no matter the resolution. Yes, I was careful with my words so someone doesn't get confused.

Yep, blame me for actually reading your statement carefully and thinking you meant exactly what you said..

I guess my psychic powers weren't working tonight :|
 

Carfax83

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ok you were actually correct. I did not realize I had vsync on nor did I think it mattered. at 720 I was at 83% cpu usage and at 1080 I was at 63%.

Yep, that's more in line.. Oh well, learn something new everyday
 

Carfax83

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Why are AMD drivers so poor in that 720p graph? Huge gaps compared to Nvidia. I can confirm the heavy the CPU usage my 5930K @ 1200p loads all 6 cores at an even 3.7GHz. Around ~55FPS maxed out with a 780 Ti @ 1215MHz in game. Vysnc locked in some areas to 60FPS. Haven't seen it drop below around mid 50s in other areas.

You must be looking at the DX11 graph. AMD's DX11 drivers have significantly higher CPU overhead than NVidia's, which is why it gets lower performance in CPU bound situations..

Mantle improves that CPU overhead tremendously. What's really shocking is how close NVidia's DX11 and AMD's Mantle performance are. Mantle is a much thinner API than DX11, so it just goes to show how optimized NVidia's drivers are for DX11..
 

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My rig should be quite playable still not ideal. Is the game graphics really that good to justify bringing dual Titans to less than 40fps? I suspect poor optimization as usual, I hope either a patch or a driver improves NV's cards performance and AMD's too, although they fare very well comparatively. And I suspect there will be much more intense moments in the game then where they tested. Low 20 for sure at times, maybe I just lower settings, still seems a but ridiculous for me to have to lower settings to get good fps, maybe there's some graphics option which does almost nothing for IQ and lowers performance dramatically, it happens sometimes in games. Overall, AMD hardware seems to fare better relatively, seeing as a 7970 is almost on par with a 780.
ps. It's strange how little 290X improves upon tahiti, isn't it?
 
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I'm curious why Mantle causes a 10 frame drop compared to DX11 on my 290X. Using the Catalyst 14.11.2 Betas, at 1440p with all settings on max, no AA, DAI pulls 50/39 in the in game bench. Switch over to Mantle, and it drops to 40/31.
 

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I'm curious why Mantle causes a 10 frame drop compared to DX11 on my 290X. Using the Catalyst 14.11.2 Betas, at 1440p with all settings on max, no AA, DAI pulls 50/39 in the in game bench. Switch over to Mantle, and it drops to 40/31.


I think Mantle helps out more with weaker CPUs,you probably have a powerful CPU so gives the advantage to DX11.
 

Lepton87

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another dragon age inquisition performance benchmark

http://www.computerbase.de/2014-11/benchmarks-und-grafikvergleich-zu-dragon-age-inquisition/

GTX 980 at the top with R9 290X behind. the gap between R9 290 and R9 290X is quite large. much more than the actual diff in shader count (10%)

Reading this one might get the idea that there is an actual perceivable difference in performance between the two while it actually is 37 vs 35.9. It's easily within the margin of error. They are essentially tied at 2560. The game prefers AMD hardware heavily.
 

Carfax83

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My rig should be quite playable still not ideal. Is the game graphics really that good to justify bringing dual Titans to less than 40fps? I suspect poor optimization as usual, I hope either a patch or a driver improves NV's cards performance and AMD's too, although they fare very well comparatively. And I suspect there will be much more intense moments in the game then where they tested. Low 20 for sure at times, maybe I just lower settings, still seems a but ridiculous for me to have to lower settings to get good fps, maybe there's some graphics option which does almost nothing for IQ and lowers performance dramatically, it happens sometimes in games. Overall, AMD hardware seems to fare better relatively, seeing as a 7970 is almost on par with a 780.
ps. It's strange how little 290X improves upon tahiti, isn't it?

Your rig should be killing this game. The only thing I can think that's holding you back is if you have MSAA set too high. MSAA in a deferred rendering engine is a performance killer.

I have the settings maxed out with MSAA 2x and I'm seeing 60 FPS at 1440p. If it does drop, it drops to around 55, which is nothing.
 
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My rig should be quite playable still not ideal. Is the game graphics really that good to justify bringing dual Titans to less than 40fps? I suspect poor optimization as usual, I hope either a patch or a driver improves NV's cards performance and AMD's too, although they fare very well comparatively. And I suspect there will be much more intense moments in the game then where they tested. Low 20 for sure at times, maybe I just lower settings, still seems a but ridiculous for me to have to lower settings to get good fps, maybe there's some graphics option which does almost nothing for IQ and lowers performance dramatically, it happens sometimes in games. Overall, AMD hardware seems to fare better relatively, seeing as a 7970 is almost on par with a 780.
ps. It's strange how little 290X improves upon tahiti, isn't it?

Look at the benchmark from computerbase.de its very clear that the default inbuilt benchmark is NOT representative of gameplay results.

Again, another useless canned benchmark.
 

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If the R9 295X2 is working well with DA:I, does that mean it supports CrossFire atm? Why didn't they benchmark any CrossFire cards?
 
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If the R9 295X2 is working well with DA:I, does that mean it supports CrossFire atm? Why didn't they benchmark any CrossFire cards?

Ofc, R295X2 is just CF R290X. Frostbite is good with CF/SLI support.

If you crank your R290 Tri-X to around 1.1ghz you'll get ~= R290X performance.
 

el etro

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For the ones that already played the game: Is the most beautiful game ever or no? Seems to be the game that taxes VGAs more.
 

boozzer

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For the ones that already played the game: Is the most beautiful game ever or no? Seems to be the game that taxes VGAs more.
hell no, most new games seems to up the requirements with zero gains in graphics. the graphics you are seeing is a 7850 radeon but requires 290x or 980 sli to run above 60 fps max out.
 
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Just started the game last night. Took almost 10 hours to download. My internet sucks. Anyway, I am liking the game so far. I have to say though, that I dont think the graphics are exceptional for the resources required. Good to very good, yes, but I guess I expected more. I have a low end system with an i5 and a HD7770. Problem is, the framerate is a bit low on "high" preset, and if I move down to medium, the textures look absolutely terrible, really shiny and plasticky. On medium, Skyrim actually looks better than this game, although if you have the horsepower, I am sure this game will move ahead. Mantle is also greyed out? WTF? Do I have to download the beta driver and risk messing up other things to try mantle? In any case, I am clearly gpu limited, so I doubt it would help.

I am getting around 30FPS on high with an i52320 and the HD7770. Playable, but I prefer closer to 40FPS, which I get on medium, but like I said, the textures look really terrible on that preset. They actually look like some kind of plastic action figure. I think HBAO is turned on by default, is that the problem? I guess I will have to try adjusting some settings manually to get a better framerate and still get the best visuals possible. I just started playing late last night, and just wanted to get a feel for the game.

Edit: After trying a few things, it seems like just turning down the resolution scaling a bit gives better framerate without too much loss of quality. Just for kicks I turned it all the way down to 25 percent and it looks awful. Dont think the game would be playable at all, but just a moderate lowering of the scaling seems to be useful. Is this a good way to get better FPS? Any other settings someone can suggest to get better performance without too much loss of quality?
 
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Lepton87

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Look at the benchmark from computerbase.de its very clear that the default inbuilt benchmark is NOT representative of gameplay results.

Again, another useless canned benchmark.

They didn't test SLI, still my lightly overclocked Titans perform somewhat like 780Tis so 34fps with one, not playable but if it scales properly then it should get to about 60fps which I consider somewhat playable, and even completely playable considering it's an RPG and not twich shooter, that's where I need close to 60fps at minimum not on average.
 
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They didn't test SLI, still my lightly overclocked Titans perform somewhat like 780Tis so 34fps with one, not playable but if it scales properly then it should get to about 60fps which I consider somewhat playable, and even completely playable considering it's an RPG and not twich shooter, that's where I need close to 60fps at minimum not on average.

Other benches show very good SLI/CF scaling, and since its Frostbite, it should scale well out of the box. Definitely very playable at 1600p with Titan SLI on maxed.
 

gradoman

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Anyone have an R9 290 or 780, 3770k/4770k, etc? I'd like to know what the benchmark shows for this game on Ultra without MSAA at 1440/1600.
 
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