[gamegpu] Far Cry 4 performance

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KaRLiToS

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Except WNO results at TPU are an outlier from everyone else. That's why it's hard to take TPU's results of WTNO seriously with 770 beating 290 by 10 fps.

The poor performance of Kepler cards in many modern games isn't an outlier as it's common in many reviews across the net.

Kepler's horrible performance in FC4 is well documented and corroborated by more than 1 reputable site. 680/770/780/Titan all perform poorly for their segment even an 1920x1200. A 270X is right on the heels of a 770.

Ya, well that's GW for you.

The Crew - HardOCP review:

"However, HBAO+ will only work on NVIDIA GPUs in this game. AMD GPUs like the AMD Radeon R9 290X an 290 will not be able to use HBAO+, it doesn't even show up in the graphics settings. This is odd because we know HBAO+ itself is vendor agnostic. Far Cry 4 allows you to run it both AMD and NVIDIA GPUs with no issues. Therefore, the developers have artificially locked out HBAO+ to AMD GPU users, which we do not like at all."
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/12/15/crew_performance_video_card_review#.VLK04XvCcc4


IMO, I would ban both GE and GW. It's now become a game of who throws more money/programming engineers at developers instead of the developers optimizing the game engine/game for PC gamers. I find both of these programs alienate PC gamers, instead of unifying the gaming experiences, especially so for GWs with locked out features. In the past the game would be made vendor agnostic as to provide a similarly great experience for PC gamers regardless whether or not they owned ATI/NV card. If ATI didn't support SM3.0, well that was a hardware limitation but the ability to run special effects was not imposed by the game developer.

I don't like the idea of 1 firm with more financial resources essentially paying its way to victory. Imagine if Intel started paying developers hundreds of millions of dollars to optimize most games for Intel CPUs and GPUs? How fair would that be? The developer should solely decide how to make a game. If they want to hire talented programmers from NV/AMD/Intel, that's perfectly acceptable too but taking direct code is almost like sponsorship/marketing.


I agree with everything you said RussianSensation.
 

stuff_me_good

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Not sure if this has been discussed here already, but I would like to know what graphics options to evade with radeon 7970 card?

Meaning that if there are some specific quality options(like shadows, lightning ,etc.) that will tank the fps while providing minimal image quality over the option as disabled, so I can dodge that one and have the best fps/IQ available. From the previous messages, I guess HBAO+ is one of those?

Gaming resolution would be 2560x1440.
 

Magic Carpet

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Not sure if this has been posted yet.

This graph could not make it anymore clear. The AMD Radeon R9 285 barely takes a performance hit turning on Enhanced Godrays, just like the GeForce GTX 980!

The reason for this is the fact that the Radeon R9 285 GPU (Tonga) is a newer version of GCN than the AMD Radeon R9 290/X GPUs. Tonga GCN version received improvements to tessellation, and other factors, that architecturally improve performance in a feature like this. The video card itself is slower, underpowered, gimped by memory bus and speed. However, the tessellation improvements are paying off big time in terms of Enhanced Godray performance in Far Cry 4. This shows how much one GCN version can vary from another.

Just imagine, if 285 had been a 290 card with 285 features.

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More food for thought
 
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Face2Face

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I installed this game the other day and with Ultra settings + SMAA + HBAO, I only get 40-45 FPS @ 1440p -- ugh... Was hoping for better performance. It doesn't look much different than FC3, but It runs much worse. No issues running out of vram.
 

Magic Carpet

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@ Face2Face

After completing FC4, I installed FC3, setting everything to the max, etc. And instantaneously, I could see the difference. @60FPS GPU usage was only @60-70% confirming my fears, there was just nothing graphically intensive going on in FC3. Those jungles looked so dull. But you get used to it. Story aside, FC4 is just more fun to play around, get a buddy and do some co-op action
 

dthem

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Hello all, I'm having an issue with trees and shrubs being partly rendered until i approach then they complete. It definitely takes away from the immersion! I have a gtx 970 and i'm wondering if this is a common occurrence?
Any feedback is appreciated!


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Temuka

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can someone post how many fps you guys get with 290/290x everything ultra on latest drivers ? thanks in advance

p.s in far cry 3/4
 

MTDEW

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can someone post how many fps you guys get with 290/290x everything ultra on latest drivers ? thanks in advance

p.s in far cry 3/4

40fps - 60fps / Vsync ON / 1920x1200 / All default Ultra settings with rig in my sig.

40fps - 60fps / Vsync ON / 2560x1440 / All default VERY HIGH settings with rig in my sig.

It drops most in towns...but very playable on my rig with settings listed above.

I chose to play it on Ultra on my secondary 1920x1200 monitor.
 

Tarvaln

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I'm getting some stuttering with Crossfire and 15.3 beta I wasn't getting before. Anyone else having this issue?
 

kasakka

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Hello all, I'm having an issue with trees and shrubs being partly rendered until i approach then they complete. It definitely takes away from the immersion! I have a gtx 970 and i'm wondering if this is a common occurrence?
Any feedback is appreciated!

The game dynamically swaps different level of detail assets in as you get closer. For some objects this appears as dithering. For trees and such I only notice this from the air really.

If you have made any changes to the game's XML files, I suggest trying to move those out of the user data folder and restarting the game (thus allowing it to recreate them).
 

Temuka

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40fps - 60fps / Vsync ON / 1920x1200 / All default Ultra settings with rig in my sig.

40fps - 60fps / Vsync ON / 2560x1440 / All default VERY HIGH settings with rig in my sig.

It drops most in towns...but very playable on my rig with settings listed above.

I chose to play it on Ultra on my secondary 1920x1200 monitor.

Which game? Which gpu?
 

MTDEW

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40fps - 60fps / Vsync ON / 1920x1200 / All default Ultra settings with rig in my sig.

40fps - 60fps / Vsync ON / 2560x1440 / All default VERY HIGH settings with rig in my sig.

It drops most in towns...but very playable on my rig with settings listed above.

I chose to play it on Ultra on my secondary 1920x1200 monitor.
I know what thread this is,I asked also about Far Cry 3
Sorry, my bad....that is with FC4. :thumbsup:
 
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