[gamegpu.ru] APU gaming including Skylake GT2 and Broadwell Iris Pro 6200

[AtenRa]

Ok gamegpu.ru has started including both Skylake GT2 and Broadwell Iris Pro 6200 in its APU gaming.

They have uploaded two games so far, War Thunder and Dirt Rally. At 1080p on those two games, it seams that pushing image quality has a higher performance impact on Broadwell Iris Pro 6200 performance allowing Kaveri 65W TDP A8-7600 to close the gap.

For just $82 the A8-7600 is the undisputed perf/$ champion of APUs.

A10-7870K = $140
A10-7850K = $130
A8-7600 = $82
A6-7400K = $65

Core i7 5775C = $430
Core i7 6700K = $420
Core i7 4770K = $310

Im looking forward for gamegpu.ru to test more games with those APUs, but for now lets see the performance on those two games.

War Thunder

http://gamegpu.ru/videoobzory/war-thunder-1-53-7-150-video-obzor-apu.html

Dirt Rally

http://gamegpu.ru/videoobzory/dirt-rally-video-obzor-apu.html

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Edit: Update with World Of Tanks Version 9.13 on 12-21-2015

World Of Tanks Version 9.13
http://gamegpu.ru/videoobzory/world-of-tanks-9-13-video-obzor-apu.html

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Edit: Update with Rainbow Six Siege on 12-27-2015

Rainbow Six Siege
http://gamegpu.ru/videoobzory/rainbow-six-siege-video-obzor-apu.html

 

[LTC8K6]

Did they try SL with some fast DDR4?

Also, there are much cheaper SL chips with GT3 such as the G4500 and the i3 chips.

 

[AtenRa]

Did they try SL with some fast DDR4?

Also, there are much cheaper SL chips with GT3 such as the G4500.

Most probably they used only DDR-4 2133MHz because of the H110 motherboard.

Skylake GT2 on Pentium will be at least 10-15% slower than Core i7 6700K due to lower clocks and smaller L3 Cache.

Intel Pentium G4500 HD530 turbo 1.05GHz
Intel Core i7 6700K HD530 turbo 1.15GHz

 

[Ansau]

The must have fucked up when testing intel, or simply it's just a biased review to make APU better than what they are.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-5775c-i5-5675c-broadwell,4169-6.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/core-i7-5775c-processor-review-desktop-broadwell,14.html
http://www.overclockers.com/intel-i7-5775c-broadwell-cpu-review/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frcaJ4pFEvU

Other sites show the Iris pro being better than any APU, and the 7870k igpu being 30-50% better than the HD 530, while here they show a dual core + half of a r7 250 matching the Iris pro, and the HD 530 having half the performance of the 7870k.

 

[jihe]

Comparison is moot anyway, no one in their right mind will buy a 5775C and game on igp.

 

[frozentundra123456]

The must have fucked up when testing intel, or simply it's just a biased review to make APU better than what they are.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-5775c-i5-5675c-broadwell,4169-6.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/core-i7-5775c-processor-review-desktop-broadwell,14.html
http://www.overclockers.com/intel-i7-5775c-broadwell-cpu-review/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frcaJ4pFEvU

Other sites show the Iris pro being better than any APU, and the 7870k igpu being 30-50% better than the HD 530, while here they show a dual core + half of a r7 250 matching the Iris pro, and the HD 530 having half the performance of the 7870k.

Yea, game.gpu used to be my go-to site for gaming tests, but lately their results have seemed questionable at best, and at odds with a lot of other test sites. As you show, there are a lot of tests showing BW iris pro faster than 7850K. Or maybe intel needs better drivers for these recent games.

In any case, the problem with APU gaming is that it is still a very marginal solution, and looking at other games, even with the highest end apu AC Syndicate, FO4, and BO3 are all sub 30FPS at lowest settings while Battlefront barely breaks 30. A low end cpu like the athlon x4 860k and a discrete card is still a much better solution for very nearly the same price.

 

[LTC8K6]

Most probably they used only DDR-4 2133MHz because of the H110 motherboard.

Skylake GT2 on Pentium will be at least 10-15% slower than Core i7 6700K due to lower clocks and smaller L3 Cache.

Intel Pentium G4500 HD530 turbo 1.05GHz
Intel Core i7 6700K HD530 turbo 1.15GHz

Well, we should be comparing as close to the same price range we can get, yes?

G4500 is $85.00

They apparently used DDR3-2666, which is well above the standard for the AMD chips, which is 1866 for the A6 and 2133 for the A8/A10

Perhaps if they had used DDR4-3000 for SL, the GT2 igp would have looked better?

 

[ShintaiDK]

So a rigged test, not surprised. The Intel driver isn't the latest one either, far from. Its dated January 2015.

 

[mikk]

Intel Iris and HD Graphics Driver for Windows 15.36.14.64.4080

AMD Radeon Software Crimson Edition Display Driver version 15.30.1025

This is a joke. Using a up to date driver for AMD and a outdated Intel driver. 15.36 driver branch doesn't even support Skylake, I wonder what they did.

 

[Sweepr]

The must have fucked up when testing intel, or simply it's just a biased review to make APU better than what they are.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ll,4169-6.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages...adwell,14.html
http://www.overclockers.com/intel-i7...ll-cpu-review/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frcaJ4pFEvU

This is a joke. Using a up to date driver for AMD and a outdated Intel driver. 15.36 driver branch doesn't even support Skylake, I wonder what they did.

Probably the reason the OP didn't include this detail. For those interested, I posted some 1080p Iris Pro result from other websites in the Broadwell thread.

Edit: Also some proper HD 530 vs Kaveri/Godavari numbers here.

Edit 2: Since he's updating this thread with even more misleading comparisons/statements, here's some 1080p Iris Pro results:

As we can see Intel is at the top of the iGPU game right now, and will leave AMD in the dust with Skylake GT4e (rumoured to be 50% faster) in a few months.

 

[AtenRa]

The must have fucked up when testing intel, or simply it's just a biased review to make APU better than what they are.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-5775c-i5-5675c-broadwell,4169-6.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/core-i7-5775c-processor-review-desktop-broadwell,14.html
http://www.overclockers.com/intel-i7-5775c-broadwell-cpu-review/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frcaJ4pFEvU

What drivers and what Memory clocks were used for each system on the above reviews ??? Im trying to find out but it seams i cant find anything to illustrate drivers and memory clocks for those systems.

My review of the Core i3 6300 used the latest drivers for the Intel Skylake and very old drivers for the Kaveri and the results are comparable with those of gamegpu.ru above.
Although my review used 1866MHz memory on Skylake, the inclusion of 2133MHz would only give another 5-10% performance increase tops.

Well, we should be comparing as close to the same price range we can get, yes?

G4500 is $85.00

Yeap, A8-7600 currently at $82 in Newegg. You get Quad core vs Dual and better iGPU at the same price point.

They apparently used DDR3-2666, which is well above the standard for the AMD chips, which is 1866 for the A6 and 2133 for the A8/A10

Perhaps if they had used DDR4-3000 for SL, the GT2 igp would have looked better?

They just post the rating of the Ram they used, you cannot use more than 2400MHz on the A10 Kaveris (unless you OC through the buss speed) and not more than 2133MHz on the 65W TDP A8-7600.

I know it is frustrating when reviews dont show the exact system hardware setups and what drivers they used. Also the majority of reviews use 6-12 months old results of Kaveri on the latest hardware reviews such as Skylake etc.

 

[turn_pike]

They just post the rating of the Ram they used, you cannot use more than 2400MHz on the A10 Kaveris (unless you OC through the buss speed) and not more than 2133MHz on the 65W TDP A8-7600.

I'm thinking of buying more RAM 'cos one of mine went bad. As a result my system only have 3 gb ram to work with as the igpu is using 1gb.

Didn't know that A8-7600 only support up to 2133. That's rather disappointing, was thinking I could use up to 2666 or 2400 at least. On the other hand it'd make choosing which RAM to buy that much easier.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Yeap, A8-7600 currently at $82 in Newegg. You get Quad core vs Dual and better iGPU at the same price point.

You forgot actual performance. Else its like trying to sell a Baytrail/Kabini quadcore because..2 moar cores.

 

[AtenRa]

You forgot actual performance. Else its like trying to sell a Baytrail/Kabini quadcore because..2 moar cores.

CPU MT and especially iGPU performance is higher on the A8-7600 vs Pentium g4500.

 

[AtenRa]

I'm thinking of buying more RAM 'cos one of mine went bad. As a result my system only have 3 gb ram to work with as the igpu is using 1gb.

Didn't know that A8-7600 only support up to 2133. That's rather disappointing, was thinking I could use up to 2666 or 2400 at least. On the other hand it'd make choosing which RAM to buy that much easier.

Get the ram that has the lowest latency and voltage at 2133MHz then.

 

[ShintaiDK]

CPU MT and especially iGPU performance is higher on the A8-7600 vs Pentium g4500.

Yes the few % of the cases or so the A8 7600 may be better CPU wise. Else its night and day difference in favour of the Pentium.

 

[AtenRa]

Update with World Of Tanks version 9.13 in the first page.

 

[ShintaiDK]

You know its flawed and keep updating it. Hmm...

 

[AtenRa]

Yea right because you say so.......

 

[ShintaiDK]

Yea right because you say so.......

DDR3 2666 for AMD.
Intel driver from January 2015.

Care to comment?

 

[AtenRa]

DDR3 2666 for AMD.
Intel driver from January 2015.

Care to comment?

I already have,

They just post the rating of the Ram they used, you cannot use more than 2400MHz on the A10 Kaveris (unless you OC through the buss speed) and not more than 2133MHz on the 65W TDP A8-7600.

And just to add the A6-7400K only supports up to 1866MHz. So again you will have to Overclock through buss speed to raise the Memory speed. But the review only use the default CPU clocks.

 

[ShintaiDK]

So 2400Mhz DDR3 for AMD that people wont normally get. And unknown speeds for Intel. With a 1 year old driver?

Maybe its time to reserve the case and see what you say.

 

[Sweepr]

So 2400Mhz DDR3 for AMD that people wont normally get. And unknown speeds for Intel. With a 1 year old driver?

Might as well run the same tests with top notch DDR4 and updated drivers on Skylake and a 1 year old+ AMD driver that doesn't support their chips. What a joke.

 

[AtenRa]

So 2400Mhz DDR3 for AMD that people wont normally get. And unknown speeds for Intel. With a 1 year old driver?

Maybe its time to reserve the case and see what you say.

We dont know if they used 2400MHz on the A10, i have only said you can use up to 2400MHz for the A10.
The Intel 530 graphics used DDR-4 2133MHz because of the Motherboard used on the review (ASUS H110M-C).

Im not sure they even used the Intel 4080 driver for the new Skylake iGPUs.

 

[ShintaiDK]

So again, you know its flawed, yet you keep posting.