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Magic Carpet

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Titan got owned by 290x. How much Titan was. Heh. Kepler cards seem to perform all right otherwise. Surprised to see Fury perform so well in a m.gpu setup.
 
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crisium

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A 980 and even a Fury X can't get 60fps at 1080? Ubisoft, please.

Crossfire looking damn good at launch compared to SLI. Also Kepler is not lame here. That's the only good things I see.
 

tential

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A 980 and even a Fury X can't get 60fps at 1080? Ubisoft, please.

Crossfire looking damn good at launch compared to SLI. Also Kepler is not lame here. That's the only good things I see.

Lol... terribly unoptimized ubisoft game as always. I expected AMD to suffer too, but that CF performance! Lol, wow, you can actually play at 1080p after that!

I dunno why people defend these AC games anymore. They've been turds to run stop buying them til they hit the bargain bin!
 

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A 980 and even a Fury X can't get 60fps at 1080? Ubisoft, please.

Crossfire looking damn good at launch compared to SLI. Also Kepler is not lame here. That's the only good things I see.

More like "Nvidia, please." I watched a video about performance in the game, and not only was 970 getting over 50FPS at 1080p most of the time, but it was in fact CPU bottlenecked by an i5 6600K (and yes, I'm sure that it was an i5) at 1080p with GimpQuirks off. Seeing more and more of this is making me hate you guys for telling me that an i5 was enough. At this point, I think I would have been better off in the long run sacrificing GPU power to get a 4770K. Now I need to save up for a 4790K and go through the horrible process of mounting a Hyper 212 EVO again...
 
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Head1985

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gamegpu.ru sucks

Here are real test with max settings
TitanX 1300Mhz 1440P
https://youtu.be/-wZHe0p4HQM?t=142
30-40Fps

980TI 1200Mhz 1080P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z228guXlGoQ
30-40fps

I tested it myself and most performance hit is from gameworks pcss shadows

GTX970 1500/8000(gtx980 performance)
pcss ultra 32fps
http://abload.de/img/acs_2015_11_20_16_58_sxuvk.png
pcss 46fps
http://abload.de/img/acs_2015_11_20_16_58_msu0s.png
high 64fps
http://abload.de/img/acs_2015_11_20_16_58_kture.png

Edit:Good real life results have pclabs

 
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poofyhairguy

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More like "Nvidia, please." I watched a video about performance in the game, and not only was 970 getting over 50FPS at 1080p most of the time, but it was in fact CPU bottlenecked by an i5 6600K (and yes, I'm sure that it was an i5) at 1080p with GimpQuirks off. Seeing more and more of this is making me hate you guys for telling me that an i5 was enough.

Was the i5 in the video overclocked?
 

Teizo

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Now I need to save up for a 4790K and go through the horrible process of mounting a Hyper 212 EVO again...

Hyper 212 Evo = over hyped junk. Get a Phanteks or Noctua cpu cooler...or even an Enermax. Extremely easy to install, and excellent performance with little to no noise.

One thing I've learned over the years, spending a little extra $ for quality is mandatory for pc parts. Over the course of the years you own the pc, the extra $100-$200 you spend on higher quality parts is more than worth it. Penny pinching is just not worth it.


As far as the game goes, AC doesn't 'need' high fps to play smooth/well...so you can't judge it by raw fps #'s per se, but even after delaying the pc version for 1 month, it is still buggy as fark...though the game play to me is pretty good in comparison to AC:BF.
 

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Wow, a 970 beating a Fury.

Is this a Gameworks title?
http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/11/19/assassins-creed-syndicate/
f you’re ready to fight the Templars, check out the NVIDIA recommended GPUs for Assassin’s Creed Syndicate. Then read up on the GameWorks effects that help make it look so spectacular. Overwatch fans should check out our recommended specs, too.


- See more at: http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/11/19/assassins-creed-syndicate/#sthash.jr9EtVDE.dpuf
 

ShintaiDK

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The GTX980 purchase rewards again. And no wonder the GTX970 is the best selling card far ahead of everything else on steam.

Maybe AMD performance will improve whenever they release a game ready driver.
 

Techhog

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Hyper 212 Evo = over hyped junk. Get a Phanteks or Noctua cpu cooler...or even an Enermax. Extremely easy to install, and excellent performance with little to no noise.

One thing I've learned over the years, spending a little extra $ for quality is mandatory for pc parts. Over the course of the years you own the pc, the extra $100-$200 you spend on higher quality parts is more than worth it. Penny pinching is just not worth it.


As far as the game goes, AC doesn't 'need' high fps to play smooth/well...so you can't judge it by raw fps #'s per se, but even after delaying the pc version for 1 month, it is still buggy as fark...though the game play to me is pretty good in comparison to AC:BF.

I'd love to do that, but then I'd need new RAM in order to have enough clearance.
 

4K_shmoorK

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Astoundingly low performance. All the more reason for the assassins creed series to finally die out...
 

Madpacket

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This POS port came with my ITX Asus 970 I just ordered. Glad I unloaded it for $20.00.

One thing that's been working working well for me for these unoptimized console ports (if you have a PS4/Xbox One), is just wait 6-8 months and you'll be able to pick up these games for under $10.00 due to excessive stock at a big box store. I recently grabbed Destiny, Watchdogs, and Assassins Creed Unity for around $5.00-10.00 each for the PS4.

Just have to wait a bit.
 
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Magic Carpet

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One thing I've learned over the years, spending a little extra $ for quality is mandatory for pc parts. Over the course of the years you own the pc, the extra $100-$200 you spend on higher quality parts is more than worth it. Penny pinching is just not worth it..
Agreed.

I'd love to do that, but then I'd need new RAM in order to have enough clearance.
This one might just fit with your ram.
65mm clearance for tall memory heatsinks

Or this one.
RAM modules with heat-spreaders of up to 70mm height.

The GTX980 purchase rewards again.
Subjectively, I think 970 is a weak card with many compromises and bad PR, but GTX980 on the other hand is a fine card with excellent performance per watt metrics. The best mid-range card of this generation. Good design, excellent performance, a very balanced card indeed. A bit too expensive in my book, but nice things do not come cheap
 
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GameGPU.Ru had ultra tests too, showing really crap performance overall for everything, but much worse for AMD & Kepler (970 doesn't beat 780Ti unless GimpWorks is involved).





What's hilarious is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04URvixusZM

NV's video of the GameWorks included in this game, go look at all the comments.

There seems to be a severe backlash from gamers against GimpWorks killing their performance for lol-worthy "you need a screenshot to tell the difference" visuals.
 

Timmah!

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Thats some pretty awful performance right there. Not unexpecting though, after the last Assassin´s Creed.
 

RussianSensation

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gamegpu.ru sucks

Here are real test with max settings

No, they don't. Did you even read their review? Real test? What does that mean testing the game at cinematic console fps blindly maxing out every useless GameWorks setting for no IQ gain? GameGPU has that covered too if you actually read the entire review.

They tested UQ at 1080P only to find that FPS are in the gutter and the IQ increase going to VHQ to UHQ is almost non-existent.



37-44 fps on a 980Ti @ 1080P UQ << You suggest someone with a $650 GPU should play like that?! >>


Then they actually changed the settings to simulate what a real PC gamer would use - get 99% identical IQ with double the performance and they got this:





980Ti is now in the 46-50 fps range @ 1440P without using useless GW's Ultra gimmicks. Let's see, what's better playing this game at UQ with a micro-scope at 1080P @ 37-44 fps OR playing it at 46-50 fps with VHQ @ 1440P? GameGPU actually got this right on.

GameGPU actually tested the game at UQ which shows results even lower than yours. This is what you called "Real test" earlier? Ya, cinematic console fps on a 980Ti SLI. FTW!





That means if you want to play the game at UQ everything @ cinematic console FPS, GameGPU has the data for you. If you want to play the game like everyone else would - i.e., with 99% IQ and double the performance, GameGPU has that too.

Why would a game have almost no IQ increase moving from VHQ to UQ, especially for textures? Simple, because every single AA method used in this game results in Vaseline/soap smearing over your eyes. What's the difference when everything looks blurry as F. GameGPU happened to cover this as well.

FXAA = garbage
MSAA = garbage
TXAA = garbage
AA off = aliased garbage

So please explain how GameGPU sucks vs. PCLabs that blindly threw every setting to the max and reported to us that the game looks like crap and performs like crap but I guess PCLabs with their constant desire to show NV cards winning (like in 95% of games they've ever tested) didn't think outside the box, right? Contrary to PCLabs that chose FXAA+UQ for no real benefits, GameGPU actually provided different testing scenarios to simulate how we might play the game.

Ironically, under the settings most gamers will use, AMD cards perform well relatively speaking since this game is still an unoptimized pile. I guess PCLabs is more interested in showing console level cinematic experience vs. real world gaming scenario or they didn't want to show AMD cards beating NV?

The GTX980 purchase rewards again. And no wonder the GTX970 is the best selling card far ahead of everything else on steam.

Maybe AMD performance will improve whenever they release a game ready driver.

Hilarious considering R9 295X2 is 56% faster at 1440P achieving 64 fps averages vs. 41 fps avg for a 980 under the same settings.

Yup, 980 sounds like it was a great investment.

Astoundingly low performance. All the more reason for the assassins creed series to finally die out...

At the same time the popular franchisees are their cash cows. If the major studios like EA and Ubisoft cannot get millions of more or less stable and guaranteed sales, they are going to be even less likely to invest into new directions that have more risk. Think about it, Watch Dogs can bomb because AC sells well. I agree with you though that from a consumer stand-point, this is pretty horrid. For them as a business though they need cash cow franchisees to be able to take risks. This is bad news for them since they are going to need to come up with something soon as AC Syndicate is shaping up to be one of their lowest releases in terms of sales for this franchise.
 
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tential

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More like "Nvidia, please." I watched a video about performance in the game, and not only was 970 getting over 50FPS at 1080p most of the time, but it was in fact CPU bottlenecked by an i5 6600K (and yes, I'm sure that it was an i5) at 1080p with GimpQuirks off. Seeing more and more of this is making me hate you guys for telling me that an i5 was enough. At this point, I think I would have been better off in the long run sacrificing GPU power to get a 4770K. Now I need to save up for a 4790K and go through the horrible process of mounting a Hyper 212 EVO again...

Don't say "You guys". Blame yourself. You should ultimately make the decision. And people recommended me the i5 too. I said screw that, the i7 is clearly the best processor for longevity considering how long intel processors last, you definitely should get the extra threads and clockspeed.

It's also what I recommend.

But ultimately your choice. I also recommend getting a good noctua (or any cooler really) instead of cheaping out. Since Noctua has lifetime bracket mounts... I can't recommend anything else. A lifetime of using the DH-14/15 cooler is all you'll need..... Unless you plan on living multiple lifetimes.
 

RussianSensation

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More like "Nvidia, please." I watched a video about performance in the game, and not only was 970 getting over 50FPS at 1080p most of the time, but it was in fact CPU bottlenecked by an i5 6600K (and yes, I'm sure that it was an i5) at 1080p with GimpQuirks off. ..

Sounds like FUD. This game is going to be 100% GPU limited on a 60Hz monitor once you turn everything up with your CPU. There is no GPU setup that can even hope to come close to a stock 2500K, not even 980Ti SLI or Fury X CF:




What you need for this game is PascalSLI/Arctic Islands CF, not an i7.
 

tential

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The GTX980 purchase rewards again. And no wonder the GTX970 is the best selling card far ahead of everything else on steam.

Maybe AMD performance will improve whenever they release a game ready driver.

This is the type of thing I don't understand from the crowd who loves Nvidia. They see a game in which Nvidia is ahead and immediately go "This is why you should buy Nvidia."

Yes, Nvidia has better performance.....

But even a Titan X is struggling in this game at 1080p. EVERY GPU is struggling in this game. So Gameworks arrives, every GPU takes a massive hit, but at least Nvidia is on top?

Because I can't see many people being happy about the amazing performance they're getting when GTX 980Ti's are getting 30-40 FPS at 1080p, those GTX 970 owners must be VERY excited.
 
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