gamegpuTom Clancy’s The Division Beta Benchmarks

[dzoni2k2]

These benchmarks are not correct. See my system specs in my config below. At 1080p UQ, which I've been happily playing at with VSYNC OFF, I never see FPS dip below 50. I'm routinely hovering at 55-57. I am using 361.43 however. Also, there is NO builtin benchmarking tool that I am aware of in this game. Maybe the final product will have one. None of my GPU/CPU is overclocked, and the game has always been fluid with no stuttering. The game play thus far is quite good, and I look forward to the final product. I've had numerous online friends tell me that this game is NOT stable with AMD GPUs, game crashes to desktop or crashes their computer altogether, but I cannot vouch for things they may be doing on their end to exacerbate this behavior. I'd definitely take these results with a huge grains of salt.

I watched quite a few Twitch streamers on Nvidia hardware with monster rigs barely above, sometimes below 60fps. Yes overclocked 980 Tis. So no, there is nothing happy about it performance wise.

As for AMD crashing. Never had a single crash or bug playing it on R290.

 

[MrTeal]

Apples and oranges (New vs. Used). How much do used FX chips go for? Not really a valid argument.

Howso? AtenRa asked if anyone really thought someone would pay more for a SB/IB i5 than for an 8350. While those chips aren't really available anymore, many people so prefer the LGA1155 i5's that they would pay the same price for a used one that they would pay for a new octo-core FX processor.

 

[Zodiark1593]

I own several decent Intel processesor (5930K, 4790K, Xeon 1231v3) but I ended up recently buying both an 8320E and 8350 for a few reasons. #1. Price. Under $200.00 for an 8 Core CPU, FX99 motherboard and 8GB RAM at Microcenter. The motherboard is full featured as well, 1150 audio with separate islands, M.2 PCIe, full x16 PCIe for Xfire/SLI etc. The 8350 was a little more but still under 200 US with a good 100 US FX97 motherboard with similar features. The CPU's even came with dirt rally codes which I sold off and used rhe money to pay for aftermarket cooler's allowing the CPU's to hit 4.4 & 4.5Ghz.

With Intel you get none of this, even at MC the combos are terrible in the 100-200 range, they only make sense when you start spending a lot more money.

For the value you can't beat the FX series. They idle at very low watts and only consume power when necessary and surprisingly use a lot less at idle than my X99/5930K at default speeds.

A lot of people on these forums (and other forums) only see Red, Blue or Green. Perhaps it's due to the general expense of these components where most people have to make a decision and buy what they thinks best but feel the need to defend this purchase for some reason.

I've come to the conclusion after being in a lucky position of being fortunately able to test out almost all of the recent PC consumer platforms and technology that you need to keep an open mind. Every technology has pros and cons and these sometimes change throughout the lifespan of a product. AMD's engineers have mostly shown they're a very forward thinking company (sometimes to their detriment) so we see weird things like 7970's and 290's last much longer than first envisioned or in this case FX 8 Core CPU's finally starting to show their value.

I still think there aren't really bad products anymore, at least in the PC space, just bad prices.

Agreed here. I'd love to be one of the few to test out all that equipment, and help buyers make an informed, unbiased decision.

No doubt GCN is certainly an anomaly in how well it is progressing as time goes, especially compared to Kepler which might have had it's own bottlenecks to contend with as games progressed. And Vishera seems to have a fair amount of staying power too.

 

[alexruiz]

I own several decent Intel processesor (5930K, 4790K, Xeon 1231v3) but I ended up recently buying both an 8320E and 8350 for a few reasons. #1. Price. Under $200.00 for an 8 Core CPU, FX99 motherboard and 8GB RAM at Microcenter...

Totally out of topic, but what 990FX motherboard did you bundle to get it with the CPU and the RAM ofr less than $200?
For the description sounds like the Asrock 990Fx fatal1ty. Is that the one?
Thanks

 

[railven]

it's a $60 IP-MMO without a monthly subscription

This is not how you launch a new MMO (or MMO type game) in the PC market. It will get dwarfed by the countless other free MMOs. More so if you're a new IP.

$20-40, more acceptable. But $60? If it had a sub it would be dead after a month. @$60, with basically no content, this game will probably make it to 3months in the PC realm. Console side? I'd wager it would last as long as Titanfall did. Perhaps half a year before the servers are barren.

Now, charge $20-40 for a brand new Online only IP, and you got yourself more people willing to check it out. @$60 the consumer is going to expect a lot.

The Secret World comes to mind, except they were stupid enough to tackle a sub fee on to it too.

biggest issue with PC is going to be people using cheats

And they better hope it was just an oversight but something tells me they were stupid enough to not realize that critical mistake. Not trying to sound rude/crude towards the devs. But how do you mishandle something as important as that?

 

[SharpHawk]

$20-40, more acceptable. But $60? If it had a sub it would be dead after a month. @$60, with basically no content, this game will probably make it to 3months in the PC realm.

This is the same company that launched Rainbow Six: Siege at $60 as well.

 

[railven]

This is the same company that launched Rainbow Six: Siege at $60 as well.

Rainbow Six is an established franchise with known focus on MP.

 

[Madpacket]

Totally out of topic, but what 990FX motherboard did you bundle to get it with the CPU and the RAM ofr less than $200?
For the description sounds like the Asrock 990Fx fatal1ty. Is that the one?
Thanks

That's correct. The motherboard has been surprisingly excellent. The VRM'S run around 60-65C under P95 load (using a temperature gun) without any active cooling on a bench which is very reasonable. The RAM was purchased separately for just under $40.00. CPU and Mobo were $159 at MC.

I should also mention the CPU's are newly binned as of fall of 2015, not some old stock they're trying to unload. I haven't really had the time to push them hard yet but it'll be interesting to compare the 8350 vs 8320e. I have a corsiar H60 and H105 ready for testing as well as some new high end Noctua coolers that should cover cooling the VRM'S better (top down blowers are underrated).

This is all for fun though. The $25-30 Coolermaster Hyper 212's are plenty for cooling these CPU's if you're just wanting a safe overclock of around 4.4/4.5Ghz.

 

[Madpacket]

Howso? AtenRa asked if anyone really thought someone would pay more for a SB/IB i5 than for an 8350. While those chips aren't really available anymore, many people so prefer the LGA1155 i5's that they would pay the same price for a used one that they would pay for a new octo-core FX processor.

1155 motherboards are missing many of the attractive features newer FX series boards have.

Motherboard manufacturer's have kept up to date feature wise with the FX series boards. Things like 1150 audio with decent power islanding, M.2 PCIe, USB 3.1 are not available on 1155 boards (AFAIK) so buying a used 2500K and motherboard is less attractive over a new 8320E + feature rich FX board if priced roughly the same. Plus you get at least a one to three year warranty over likely nothing when buying used (unless you buy a rare product from a vendor that let's you xfer warranty).

All of this added up makes comparing used 1155 vs. new FX apples to oranges IMHO and not really relevant. I mean if you already have an older 1155 board with say a Core i3 2100 or less sure just drop in a used 2500K if you can get one for 150 or so, no disagreement there.

 

[MrTeal]

1155 motherboards are missing many of the attractive features newer FX series boards have.

Motherboard manufacturer's have kept up to date feature wise with the FX series boards. Things like 1150 audio with decent power islanding, M.2 PCIe, USB 3.1 are not available on 1155 boards (AFAIK) so buying a used 2500K and motherboard is less attractive over a new 8320E + feature rich FX board if priced roughly the same. Plus you get at least a one to three year warranty over likely nothing when buying used (unless you buy a rare product from a vendor that let's you xfer warranty).

All of this added up makes comparing used 1155 vs. new FX apples to oranges IMHO and not really relevant. I mean if you already have an older 1155 board with say a Core i3 2100 or less sure just drop in a used 2500K if you can get one for 150 or so, no disagreement there.

Well yeah, I can't imagine anyone buying a new LGA1155 motherboard either, even if they were available. You seem to be reading something else into my post though, as if I had said that a used 2500k is a better value than a new octo-core FX. I never said that at all. I merely replied to AtenRa asking if anyone really thought people would pay more for a SB/IB i5 than an FX process. Some people obviously would pay as much or more for a SB/IB i5 than an octo-core FX CPU, as used prices on the Intel CPUs often match or exceed new prices on the AMD ones.