#Gamergate, the war on nerds, and the corruption of the left and the free press

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brycejones

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And thank YOU for providing yet another example of the feminist war on nerds.

You're calling gamers trying to defend their hobby, "a bunch of little boys and their maladjusted personalities" and implying they need to stop complaining about someone trying to change/eliminate their games, stop playing games feminists find "gross", and get back to earning as much money as possible in order to give funds to women.

Right up your alley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8TjBWIws7w

This thread delivers the WTF?
 

fskimospy

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What a great non-response! No rebuttal? Just call 'em "stupid" and claim their point invalid. Genius!

Maybe he was noting how crazy it is to go from people advocating for more gender equality in games and turn it into a thing where men are enslaved to go earn money for women.

That's some The Red Pill level crazy.
 

realibrad

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Maybe he was noting how crazy it is to go from people advocating for more gender equality in games and turn it into a thing where men are enslaved to go earn money for women.

That's some The Red Pill level crazy.

What do you mean more gender equality. I am for equality, but how are games currently unequal?
 

Blue_Max

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Maybe he was noting how crazy it is to go from people advocating for more gender equality in games and turn it into a thing where men are enslaved to go earn money for women.

That's some The Red Pill level crazy.

...how about because it's NOT about "gender equality" in the first place? How about all of the Sarkeesian-ites being very feminist and driving the "gamers are DEAD" issue? "Bring back bullying"? Any of this ringing a bell for you?

These feminists don't want equality. They passed the equal point quite some time ago and are still surging forward, ironically claiming they're still "victims".

So why hate nerds? Perhaps because they don't fit the mold... never have. The hunky alphas are there for fun sexy times, the wage-earning beta suckers are there to give them a house (and ultimately all their resources when she decides it's time to move 'onward and upward') ...but the nerrrrrds, the "omegas", any that don't fit the agenda that benefits them, were outcast. Until now. NOW they're being hunted and ridiculed into either falling into line and into a place in society they like, or be shamed into non-existence. Show any resistance to feminist issues, you're branded every hate label in their repertoire - as you yourself have even demonstrated.
 

fskimospy

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...how about because it's NOT about "gender equality" in the first place? How about all of the Sarkeesian-ites being very feminist and driving the "gamers are DEAD" issue? "Bring back bullying"? Any of this ringing a bell for you?

These feminists don't want equality. They passed the equal point quite some time ago and are still surging forward, ironically claiming they're still "victims".

So why hate nerds? Perhaps because they don't fit the mold... never have. The hunky alphas are there for fun sexy times, the wage-earning beta suckers are there to give them a house (and ultimately all their resources when she decides it's time to move 'onward and upward') ...but the nerrrrrds, the "omegas", any that don't fit the agenda that benefits them, were outcast. Until now. NOW they're being hunted and ridiculed into either falling into line and into a place in society they like, or be shamed into non-existence. Show any resistance to feminist issues, you're branded every hate label in their repertoire - as you yourself have even demonstrated.

If you think women 'passed the equal point some time ago' I have a bridge to sell you.

And by "show any resistance" you mean "threaten mass murder and rape repeatedly".
 

Blue_Max

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If you think women 'passed the equal point some time ago' I have a bridge to sell you.

And by "show any resistance" you mean "threaten mass murder and rape repeatedly".

#killallmen

No... that never happens from feminists... or the champions & driving forces of feminism...

"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." -- Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor.

"Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex."
-- Valerie Solanas, SCUM founder (Society for Cutting Up Men.)

...and everything from Andrea Dworkin.

OH! And don't forget to tell me I magically earn more money for the same job, despite all laws disallowing it.
 
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fskimospy

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#killallmen

No... that never happens from feminists... or the champions & driving forces of feminism...

"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." -- Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor.

"Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex."
-- Valerie Solanas, SCUM founder (Society for Cutting Up Men.)

...and everything from Andrea Dworkin.

Oh wow, you found two women saying objectionable things. If you want to play the quote game I can literally bury you under the horrific things said about women by men.

Use your head!
 

Blue_Max

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Oh wow, you found two women saying objectionable things. If you want to play the quote game I can literally bury you under the horrific things said about women by men.

Use your head!

Use yours for other than social manipulation. There's plenty of other man-hating feminists out there, screaming "patriarchy" until she turns a strange colour...

 

fskimospy

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Use yours for other than social manipulation. There's plenty of other man-hating feminists out there, screaming "patriarchy" until she turns a strange colour...

Sigh. Like I said, you're just making yourselves look worse. What you're writing is straight out of /r/theredpill.
 

Blue_Max

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Sigh. Like I said, you're just making yourselves look worse. What you're writing is straight out of /r/theredpill.

I had to look up this "red pill" business you keep repeating...

Interesting how you hate it so much, since "men going their own way" seems to be all about not giving self-serving feminists what they want.

They're not hurting women, but they're not giving in to feminist demands - and that's unacceptable to them. Same as the gamer nerds.

Ooo.... just found a fun vid on that one, thanks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEk4rUqvVhY&index=16&list=UUeCV-XNeZIoHiCGfNYCLh9Q
 
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fskimospy

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I had to look up this "red pill" business you keep repeating...

Interesting how you hate it so much, since "men going their own way" seems to be all about not giving self-serving feminists what they want.

They're not hurting women, but they're not giving in to feminist demands - and that's unacceptable to them. Same as the gamer nerds.

Yeah, that's what the red pill is, lol.

Like was said before, you guys are definitely bringing the crazy.

EDIT: I have no doubt that it will greatly appeal to you. You're basically parroting the Men's Rights movement crap already, so you might as well speak with other people who are into it.
 

Blue_Max

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Yeah, that's what the red pill is, lol.

Like was said before, you guys are definitely bringing the crazy.

EDIT: I have no doubt that it will greatly appeal to you. You're basically parroting the Men's Rights movement crap already, so you might as well speak with other people who are into it.

...but you're free to spread feminist propaganda all you want? Kind of a double-standard there, isn't it?
 

fskimospy

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...but you're free to spread feminist propaganda all you want? Kind of a double-standard there, isn't it?

I'm not sure if you understand what a double-standard is. You're free to say anything you want, but you have to accept that when you say insane things that people might tell you they are insane.
 

Blue_Max

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I'm not sure if you understand what a double-standard is. You're free to say anything you want, but you have to accept that when you say insane things that people might tell you they are insane.

Back to the non-response again. Calling someone "insane" doesn't negate a point made.
 

fskimospy

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Back to the non-response again. Calling someone "insane" doesn't negate a point made.

Says the guy who is busy saying that those who disagree with him are spreading 'feminist propaganda'. I guess this is even more of a reason why you should learn what double standards are, huh? lol.

You aren't making any statements that merit refutation. You're just try to argue by cherry picking quotes and babbling about how oppressed you are, which is about half sad and half amusing to me.
 

realibrad

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Spy, what in gaming do you feel needs to change.

People are messed up, and considering there are over a billion gamers, you will have messed up gamers. We already agreed that games dont make people do anything. So what in games needs to change?
 

fskimospy

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Spy, what in gaming do you feel needs to change.

People are messed up, and considering there are over a billion gamers, you will have messed up gamers. We already agreed that games dont make people do anything. So what in games needs to change?

I don't think anything necessarily needs to be changed as I never really cared much about that issue.

If it were ever about 'ethics in gaming journalism' I would say two things:

1. As Stephen Colbert put it, there is a cozy relationship between entertainment media and content producers in TV, movies, etc. Everyone knows this, nobody cares. It's not unique or interesting.

2. It's hard to think of something I care less about than that issue, and the level of freakout over it is hilariously unwarranted.

What needs to change is the attitudes of the gamergate people, as holy shit they are insane.
 

realibrad

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I don't think anything necessarily needs to be changed as I never really cared much about that issue.

If it were ever about 'ethics in gaming journalism' I would say two things:

1. As Stephen Colbert put it, there is a cozy relationship between entertainment media and content producers in TV, movies, etc. Everyone knows this, nobody cares. It's not unique or interesting.

2. It's hard to think of something I care less about than that issue, and the level of freakout over it is hilariously unwarranted.

What needs to change is the attitudes of the gamergate people, as holy shit they are insane.


I will agree that people have gone too far, but I suppose you could say that about every issue ever in all of history. Why is it so terrible that people have done that with this issue?

I could see calling out those individuals who say/do horrible things, but I dont get why the label of gaming is meaningful. I dont see people calling out the horrible things water drinkers do, as it is equally as relevant to both of us. In a way, I am a gamergate person, so far as I do think the content reviewers should be as close to the content creates. As you already pointed out, its no different than any other media content. There is something there, but I think we both agree its very very small.

I think the main thing I have not liked, is the labels that gamers are being given. Its where the notyourshield thing started.

I know you know politics pretty well, so you are fully aware that a few very loud voices can overpower the larger group. Do you believe that those in gamergate are all batshit crazy, or just a few small voices?
 

fskimospy

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I will agree that people have gone too far, but I suppose you could say that about every issue ever in all of history. Why is it so terrible that people have done that with this issue?

I could see calling out those individuals who say/do horrible things, but I dont get why the label of gaming is meaningful. I dont see people calling out the horrible things water drinkers do, as it is equally as relevant to both of us.

I don't think it is the same. People are only incidentally water drinkers, but this kind of nonsense is coming explicitly in support of a particular issue.

In a way, I am a gamergate person, so far as I do think the content reviewers should be as close to the content creates. As you already pointed out, its no different than any other media content. There is something there, but I think we both agree its very very small.

I think the main thing I have not liked, is the labels that gamers are being given. Its where the notyourshield thing started.

I know you know politics pretty well, so you are fully aware that a few very loud voices can overpower the larger group. Do you believe that those in gamergate are all batshit crazy, or just a few small voices?

I think it's only a few voices that are actually doing the really terrible stuff but I've seen a disturbing amount of misogyny coming from a lot of different sources.
 

realibrad

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I don't think it is the same. People are only incidentally water drinkers, but this kind of nonsense is coming explicitly in support of a particular issue.

What issue is gamergate supporting that you do not like?

Gamergate is a rather large movement with a lot of people. Is there a central issue that gamergate is trying to push? When does a stupid person represent gamergate, vs a smart person not represent the movement?

For me, the main driving issue is that "gamergaters" care about, is the demeaning of the pastime. This idea that games typically misogynistic or demean women is wrong.

What seems to be coming from the other side is not equality, but society shaping. As I have said before, I am for equality. Skills and ability should be compensated equally. I dont believe anyone has the right not to be offended.
 

realibrad

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Social Justice Warriors are the thought police Orwell warned us of.

Not even close to that right now. It may be the logical end to some of the SJW's views, but its so far from that end that there is little point to bringing that up right now.

Right now, its a hand full of stupid people trying to be popular. The only action needed right now, is to call it out, and discuss why the ideas are wrong.
 
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