#Gamergate, the war on nerds, and the corruption of the left and the free press

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Blue_Max

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Much of what I have seen from those who are disagreeing with feminists are using slanderous statements and making death threats, these people should be subject to lawsuits and penalty of the law for such.
I call bullshit. Show me all these genuine death threats.
Where's the #killallfeminists equivalent to #killallmen?

In life one must learn they should pick their battles, sometimes it best to avoid battles you can't win.
But your side has been arguing feminists don't have the power to exact any of these revenges... do they or don't they? Make up your mind.

Damned duplicity. You may as well be asking, "Are feminists strong and self-reliant, or weak helpless victims?"
The answer you'll get is a long-winded version of, "YES!"
 

jackstar7

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I call bullshit. Show me all these genuine death threats.
Where's the #killallfeminists equivalent to #killallmen?

So the nazi and sub-human comparisons in this very thread... oh wait... semantically not the same. Nevermind, then. I know your game and it is pedantry.
 

Nebor

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If you know engaging someone may result in them trying to get you fired, why would you even entertain the idea of engaging them???

If you know drawing a cartoon of someone's god may result in them trying to murder you, why would you even entertain the idea of drawing the cartoon?
 

Blue_Max

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So the nazi and sub-human comparisons in this very thread... oh wait... semantically not the same. Nevermind, then. I know your game and it is pedantry.

Is this another example of you "trying to keep conversation civilized"?

Show me an example IN THIS THREAD where the GG side has called for firings, jail, death, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfzUG70nN6k <- discussion of free speech and its opposition, etc. (6:10 particularly if you're not going to bother watching much.)

Your viewpoint in a nutshell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJwWYsAk1I8 (Only 3 minutes long - no excuses.)
 
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jackstar7

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Is this another example of you "trying to keep conversation civilized"?

Show me an example IN THIS THREAD where the GG side has called for firings, jail, death, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfzUG70nN6k <- discussion of free speech and its opposition, etc. (6:10 particularly if you're not going to bother watching much.)

Your viewpoint in a nutshell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJwWYsAk1I8 (Only 3 minutes long - no excuses.)

Thank you for doing EXACTLY what I stated you would do. Amusing that you could not stop yourself when I even spelled out your next move.

And I give respect to those that display it. You, sir, do not. If you're interested in having a civilized discourse about this topic, just demonstrate that in some way and I believe people will respond in kind. Go on, give it a try.
 

Blue_Max

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Thank you for doing EXACTLY what I stated you would do. Amusing that you could not stop yourself when I even spelled out your next move.

And I give respect to those that display it. You, sir, do not. If you're interested in having a civilized discourse about this topic, just demonstrate that in some way and I believe people will respond in kind. Go on, give it a try.

You didn't spell out ANYTHING, merely "ohhhh I know what your next move will be"... then didn't say it out loud so you no matter what I did you could crow, "I knew it!!" That's straight out of kindergarten.

So, again I'll ask you to follow up on your own words. Find, in this thread, where GG supporters have wished firing, prison, pain, and/or death upon their opponents. You made the claim, you back it up.
 

fskimospy

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You realize that you've both agreed that someone SHOULD lose their job and go to prison for disagreeing with feminism? That's all this guy said. No threats whatsoever (at least from him, plenty from the feminists but that seems to be allowed and encouraged.)

Of course, I'm not surprised you did - you also said my kids should be taken away from me for not supporting feminism.

Not much hope of having a real conversation here, is there?

I of course have said neither of those things, but yes if that's what your response is it would seem like having a real conversation with you is not possible. You're too emotionally invested in this issue, which makes your emotions overwhelm everything else.

You're doing exactly the thing you claim 'feminists' do.
 

Chiropteran

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Thank you for doing EXACTLY what I stated you would do.

So the nazi and sub-human comparisons in this very thread... oh wait... semantically not the same. Nevermind, then. I know your game and it is pedantry.

I R CONFUSED. My feeble male brain can't understand what feminine logic you used to call the previous post a prediction of anything at all, much less what Blue_Max actually posted.
 

Londo_Jowo

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If you know drawing a cartoon of someone's god may result in them trying to murder you, why would you even entertain the idea of drawing the cartoon?

I wouldn't put myself, family, or friends in that kind of danger over something as stupid as drawing a cartoon as it's not worth the risk of doing so.

If you choose to do so and you or someone you care about dies don't expect me to get upset as you knew the risk going in.
 

Chiropteran

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I wouldn't put myself, family, or friends in that kind of danger over something as stupid as drawing a cartoon as it's not worth the risk of doing so.

If you choose to do so and you or someone you care about dies don't expect me to get upset as you knew the risk going in.

So a woman can wear sexy lingerie, heels, & hooker makeup in a dark street and if she gets raped it's totally not her fault.

But if I draw a freaking cartoon, I deserve to be murdered.


This is the logic of feminism, folks.
 

Londo_Jowo

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So a woman can wear sexy lingerie, heels, & hooker makeup in a dark street and if she gets raped it's totally not her fault.

But if I draw a freaking cartoon, I deserve to be murdered.


This is the logic of feminism, folks.

Yet another one has to put words in people mouths and try make it out to more than what the person said.

Personally I don't care for feminist and I chose not to get into battles with them as you will never win. If you chose to get into a battle with them and lose, it's all on you.
 

brycejones

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I wouldn't put myself, family, or friends in that kind of danger over something as stupid as drawing a cartoon as it's not worth the risk of doing so.

If you choose to do so and you or someone you care about dies don't expect me to get upset as you knew the risk going in.

So a woman can wear sexy lingerie, heels, & hooker makeup in a dark street and if she gets raped it's totally not her fault.

But if I draw a freaking cartoon, I deserve to be murdered.


This is the logic of feminism, folks.

WTF? Where does he say the cartoonist "deserves" to be murdered?
 

Spungo

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I meant specifically that men don't have to worry about their women beating them up (or killing them) - not just hitting them, but actual battery doing severe injury.
This is partially true. Men, in general, fight with fists. Women, in general, fight with objects. Think of stereotypes. How does a man beat his wife? With his hand. What is an angry abusive wife holding? A rolling pin. There's also the frying pan stereotype. Women are also more likely to throw things. Being a man still has a huge physical advantage, but my point is that abuse from women is not harmless. I might be half your size, but I can mess you up pretty bad if I hit you with a rolling pin or throw a coffee mug at your head. People need to stop pretending that it's impossible for someone like me to hurt someone like you. If I did manage to hit with you with something, people would probably laugh at you for being weak. That needs to change.

Seinfeld had an episode about this when it came to woman on woman violence. Elaine was concerned that a crazy woman was going to attack her, but nobody cared. Even the police didn't care. They just made cat noises to downplay the seriousness of the situation. Stuff like that is only funny on TV because people can relate to it. That really is the way people think. It doesn't matter if the victim is male or female, being attacked by a woman is never taken seriously.


It's that the level of threat is simply asymmetrical. Sure, men are at more risk from violence - but not from women.
It's asymmetrical until weapons are involved.


Is it fair that women are physically smaller and weaker?
It's not size that matters. It's about results and intent. If you punch me, there's roughly a 100% chance you'll go to jail, and that's the way it should be. I could kick you square in the balls and get away with it. I could probably swing a kitchen knife at you and still not be arrested. A couple pages back, I posted a video where a woman tried to murder a police officer, and she was found not guilty. The whole thing was on camera, and that still was not enough. In the eyes of the law, you slapping me is a much more serious crime than me trying to cut your throat.


I'm not suggesting we need to go easier on men who are abusive. I just think we need to even the playing field. If I think a woman is going to attack me, the government and society as a whole should care. Don't just laugh at say "cat fight!" By the same token, we need to stop victim blaming when men are the targets of aggression. We're all human. We all deserve protection under the law.
 

MongGrel

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I wondered why I hadn't seemed this thread in awhile and hoped it was dead.

Nope here it is.
 

Nebor

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What amuses me most is that he has such a problem with the victim mentality of these so called feminists, but acts just as much like a victim.

I find that amusing about the Mens Rights Movement as a whole. They have adopted all the same tactics as feminism. They constantly play the victim card, and point out slights against them that don't exist.
 

werepossum

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This is partially true. Men, in general, fight with fists. Women, in general, fight with objects. Think of stereotypes. How does a man beat his wife? With his hand. What is an angry abusive wife holding? A rolling pin. There's also the frying pan stereotype. Women are also more likely to throw things. Being a man still has a huge physical advantage, but my point is that abuse from women is not harmless. I might be half your size, but I can mess you up pretty bad if I hit you with a rolling pin or throw a coffee mug at your head. People need to stop pretending that it's impossible for someone like me to hurt someone like you. If I did manage to hit with you with something, people would probably laugh at you for being weak. That needs to change.

Seinfeld had an episode about this when it came to woman on woman violence. Elaine was concerned that a crazy woman was going to attack her, but nobody cared. Even the police didn't care. They just made cat noises to downplay the seriousness of the situation. Stuff like that is only funny on TV because people can relate to it. That really is the way people think. It doesn't matter if the victim is male or female, being attacked by a woman is never taken seriously.

It's asymmetrical until weapons are involved.

It's not size that matters. It's about results and intent. If you punch me, there's roughly a 100% chance you'll go to jail, and that's the way it should be. I could kick you square in the balls and get away with it. I could probably swing a kitchen knife at you and still not be arrested. A couple pages back, I posted a video where a woman tried to murder a police officer, and she was found not guilty. The whole thing was on camera, and that still was not enough. In the eyes of the law, you slapping me is a much more serious crime than me trying to cut your throat.

I'm not suggesting we need to go easier on men who are abusive. I just think we need to even the playing field. If I think a woman is going to attack me, the government and society as a whole should care. Don't just laugh at say "cat fight!" By the same token, we need to stop victim blaming when men are the targets of aggression. We're all human. We all deserve protection under the law.
But picture in your mind all the men you know who have been attacked by women. How many were actually injured? I can recall two, one friend who was stabbed in the ass and one acquaintance who was shot dead, had his head literally removed via 12 gauge bird shot. One married a crazy bitch, the other finally had his habit of getting liquored up and beating his wife (she had required hospitalization several times) catch up with him. Now picture all the women you know who have been attacked by men. I know several, and it ain't pretty, being a mix of bettering and rape. Wrong on both sides, but the results are radically different. Sure, the results COULD be the same, but in reality they are not. I agree that the law should handle it the same when weapons are involved or when it is woman on woman, but a woman battering a man with her hands just isn't serious most of the time.

I wondered why I hadn't seemed this thread in awhile and hoped it was dead.

Nope here it is.
Jackstar7 redeemed it and it became interesting. Hell, I even bothered finding out which side are the Gamergate people.
 
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Spungo

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You realize that you've both agreed that someone SHOULD lose their job and go to prison for disagreeing with feminism? That's all this guy said. No threats whatsoever (at least from him, plenty from the feminists but that seems to be allowed and encouraged.)

Of course, I'm not surprised you did - you also said my kids should be taken away from me for not supporting feminism.
Welcome to the fourth reich, bitches!

Kids taken away by CPS because kids were allowed to walk around at 5pm on a Sunday.
article said:
Maryland parents accused of child neglect for letting their kids roam around their neighborhood
I think the conspiracy theorist Alex Jones gives people too much credit. In his mind, there's absolutely no way people are this stupid. It must be some kind of government conspiracy that is forcing people to train their kids to live as if they are inmates in a prison (or FEMA camps ). It doesn't occur to him that maybe humans actually hate freedom, and they came to that conclusion on their own.


This one is particularly disturbing. You're agreeing that feminists SHOULD have the right to have someone fired over a conversation with less than 100% agreement, and that the only proper solution is to NOT DISAGREE with them. Holy freakin' hell is that egotistical.
You must have been out of the country for the past 10 or 20 years. Remember when everyone who disagreed with Bush was a terrorist? Remember how everyone who disagrees with Obama is a racist? You are never allowed to disagree with those in power. You might get put on some no-fly list or be investigated by the IRS, an organization which conveniently destroys 422 backup tapes containing more than 24,000 emails after a subpoena is issued. If the founding fathers wanted people to disagree on stuff without retaliation from the ruling class, they would have put that somewhere in the constitution, probably near the beginning, like #1 or something.


Now picture all the women you know who have been attacked by men. I know several, and it ain't pretty, being a mix of bettering and rape. Wrong on both sides, but the results are radically different.
Honestly? Zero that I'm aware of. Men getting seriously attacked by women is rare, but women getting seriously attacked by men is just as rare. This probably has a lot to do with class. I grew up in the middle-middle class, where most kids had two parents living together in a house that had their name on the title. Not wealthy like doctors, but not poor like fry cooks (this needs to be stated because it's possible for two fry cooks to buy a house). My current income as a junior engineer probably puts me in that same middle class, but I generally think of myself as lower-middle class because that's how I live. As such, most of the people I know are lower middle class. I can't recall any man or woman I know being attacked in such a way that it drew a lot of attention. If the people I know are abusing each other, the abuse is mild enough that I can't see it. I only know about my brother being attacked because he mentioned it a few times. I'm guessing some of my girlfriends have been pushed or slapped a few times, but I've never seen anything like the beating Rhiana took.

The violence would probably be a lot higher if I associated with lower class people. It might be even be higher if I associated with wealthy people. If a guy is making 200k per year, he can get away with a lot of abusive behavior before a woman leaves. You can't act cunty like Donald Trump when you make 40k per year. I think the same is true when it comes to physical attractiveness. Attractive people can get away with a lot of douchey behavior.
Or, as Jim Norton said about fat women, "Of course they're nice. Being nice is the only thing that stops us from killing them."

I wouldn't be saying feminists are irrational if I saw significant male on female violence in my own life. It might exist out there, but I haven't seen it, and the government numbers seem to agree with my experience.
 

Blue_Max

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What amuses me most is that he has such a problem with the victim mentality of these so called feminists, but acts just as much like a victim.

Show me where I'm acting like a victim. You make the claim, you back it up.

Still waiting for jackstar to back up his claim that GGers in this thread have called for firings, jailings, or other punishment. Otherwise, another Bullshitter.


If you can't use truth to make your point, you don't have one. The feminists and SJW crowds are screaming blue murder for opposing views to be silenced - even as far as demanding all speech unsupportive to be called "hate speech" and any research disproving feminist theories (like the 'pay gap') to be destroyed and the professors disregarded or fired.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPtiO8HG0MA

I find it so odd that you would choose to stand with the crowd who WANTS totalitarianism, rather than with those only wanting to work as a functioning team.
 

MrPickins

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Edit: Nevermind, not worth it.

You lack the self awareness to realize the irony of your arguments.
 
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