#Gamergate, the war on nerds, and the corruption of the left and the free press

[JSt0rm]

I hope this thread is unearthed 20k years from now by a distant civilization and people.

 

[werepossum]

This is a false dichotomy because sexual desire is bound up with a desire for dominance (what you call power). The two need not always be linked, but they are certainly linked in many people's minds at least at times. Sexual fantasies that involve dominance of women, whether they are rape fantasies or just the typical consensual male dominance fantasies depicted in American porn, are quite prevalent among men. The fact that men may masturbate while thinking about sexual scenarios involving dominance makes it pretty clear that the dominance adds a certain spice to the fantasy, i.e. for some men it makes it "hotter" than just fantasizing about plain vanilla sex. Rape is a crime which undoubtedly arouses the perpetrator to a very great extent. They would just beat the victim up and not have sex with them if it was only about power or violence.

Nebor's statement that rape is just about sexual access I think is over-simplifying. It may well be true that rapists tend to be the type who don't get laid very often and that the victims tend to be attractive, but I think such men may harbor resentments toward attractive women who won't have sex with them, and this resentment may cause them to prefer sexual scenarios, in fantasy or reality, where they dominate, abuse, or humiliate their sex partner. This is why legalized prostitution may reduce rape but certainly won't eliminate it.

Again, we're dealing with two things - sex and dominance - which can be bound together. It isn't just one or the other.

Well said. If a rapist has a choice between an attractive woman and an unattractive woman, his choice will not be random. Rapists tend to rape the most attractive women to which they have access at the moment. They also often rape women absolutely no one finds sexually attractive. I agree that we cannot say sex is about one or the other.

You're hoping to remove the humanity from humans. Trying to remove the us vs them mentality is just as silly as trying to pray the gay away or saying fat is sexy. No amount of brainwashing will change those things.

I always like reading studies that come from sociologists because they often have perplexing conclusions.
From the third one:

How on earth did they come to the conclusion that rape was caused by socialization and learned aggression? I would look at that and come to the exact opposite conclusion. That study found that people with the highest sex drives tend to be date rapists. If anything, that would imply sex drive causes rape, or at least a very large portion of it.

The website stinks of laziness because they couldn't even do 5 seconds of google searching. If their hypothesis about learned aggression is correct, we would expect the most pussified country on earth to have the lowest rate of rape. Sweden:

https://www.bra.se/download/18.22a7...426789/2012_NTU_2011_Kap_3_Utsatthet_2012.pdf

Look at that, the exact opposite is true. Also, look at Japan on that graph. Japan's porn is rapetastic, and that country has a very low rate of rape. It's almost like suppressing male desires and not giving them a healthy outlet (creepy rape porn) causes rape. That certainly makes sense. A lot of athletes say they would probably be in jail if they didn't have martial arts and sports as a way of releasing their natural competitive or violent emotions.

The problem with sociologists is that they tend to throw out all known medical science. Here is a case where a man turned into a raging pedophile as a result of a brain tumor. It's not a learned behavior. No amount of brainwashing will stop rape or murder or pedophilia. Those people can't be fixed. The best we can do is lock them up when we find them, and tell people how to avoid those monsters when possible. Don't walk alone at night, don't talk to strangers, never get into a stranger's car, don't get blackout drunk at parties, never leave your drink unattended, etc.

That's interesting. I wonder how much of Sweden's rape is what Whoopi Goldberg described as "rape rape" and how much is "he didn't call the next day - therefore I was date-raped."

Getting a brain tumor that causes pedophilia must be from G-d's adding insult to injury files.

I hope this thread is unearthed 20k years from now by a distant civilization and people.

Sometimes I suspect ATP&N has long been discovered by a distant civilization and people.

 

[JSt0rm]

yeah, a primitive people.

 

[werepossum]

yeah, a primitive people.

But different, and different is always interesting.

 

[Blue_Max]

Educating is when you present facts and proven theories. Going to medical school so you can remove the brain tumor from a pedophile is education.

Brainwashing is when someone is forced to believe things with no evidence. Much of sociology is brainwashing because it's not based on anything. There's no evidence to support the idea that rapists and pedophiles can be rehabilitated.

I wonder what SJWs think about pedophiles. Is it victim blaming when we tell children not to get into a stranger's car? Maybe we should just teach people to stop abducting kids. In SJW land, the desire to abduct kids is a learned behavior. We can stop it if we just put enough emphasis on how wrong it is to rape and murder children, right?

That was beautifully, succinctly put. Well done. :thumbsup:

If only such clear, infallible logic could pierce the shield of dogma.

We've been saying since the beginning of recorded history that cold-blooded murder is evil... hasn't stopped yet.

 

[0roo0roo]

#GamerGate Insanity: Pre-SPJ Airplay w/ Game Diviner
Lord Nurgle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHR4xuFQgnI



#GamerGate Annual Recap: Zoe Quinn (Part 1)
LtSarge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMRk77X5W5k

#GamerGate Annual Recap: The Zoe Post (Quinnology Part 2)
LtSarge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0qSow6mLNk

in just a few hours...

10am EST

http://spjairplay.com/

 

[Nebor]

I wish CNN, MSNBC and HLN would shut up about this AirPlay debate. I want to know how the Republican primaries are going!

 

[PingviN]

If their hypothesis about learned aggression is correct, we would expect the most pussified country on earth to have the lowest rate of rape. Sweden:

This comparision is pretty stupid, because rape is not always "rape". In Sweden, rape is the same as sexual assault in many other countries.

 

[0roo0roo]

and it starts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW2D-OPscw4

sargon's livestream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0yf8-65cwM

 

[0roo0roo]

Afternoon panel live now
SPJAirplay - Afternoon Pannel
Spj AirPlay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nck57J7GcsI
Sargons version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0yf8-65cwM
https://twitter.com/hashtag/SPJAirplay?src=hash

 

[0roo0roo]

https://twitter.com/Nero/status/632622358730264576
bomb threat...

 

[0roo0roo]

https://twitter.com/SMABSO/status/632625940573589504

 

[CitizenKain]

https://twitter.com/SMABSO/status/632625940573589504

So the gamergaters are calling in bomb threats on their own conference? Good plan.

 

[MagickMan]

What a brilliant conference, glad to see the SPJ is now on the right side of things and seeing the Social Justice movement as the fascist hate group they are. All of the Progressive "journalists" have been placed on notice and will start losing their credentials if they continue to lie.

*Durr hurr, hurpa durpa*

Very interesting. :\

 

[MongGrel]

I hope this thread is unearthed 20k years from now by a distant civilization and people.

 

[0roo0roo]

What a brilliant conference, glad to see the SPJ is now on the right side of things and seeing the Social Justice movement as the fascist hate group they are. All of the Progressive "journalists" have been placed on notice and will start losing their credentials if they continue to lie.




Very interesting. :\

Yea maybe they'll release what they continued with while outside.
They must have melted in that 96 degree heat though lol

and a reminder of chu's past..

WHAT I MEANT TO SAY AT SPJ AIRPLAY, BEFORE THAT BOMB THREAT…
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/15/what-i-meant-to-say-before-that-bomb-threat/

Harmful Opinion - Airplay Bomb Threat Rant
Harmful Opinions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bPsyryLexc

WHAT YOU MISSED THIS AFTERNOON AT SPJ AIRPLAY FROM CHRISTINA HOFF SOMMERS
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...n-at-spj-airplay-from-christina-hoff-sommers/

#GamerGate debate at SPJ Airplay broken up by bomb threats
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/15/gamergate-debate-at-spj-airplay-broken-up-by-bomb-threats/

#GamerGate Event Evacuated After Multiple Bomb Threats
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...-event-evacuated-after-multiple-bomb-threats/

#GamerGate Insanity: Pre-SPJ Airplay w/ Game Diviner
Lord Nurgle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHR4xuFQgnI


strange things...

SWERVE: SUEY PARK SLAMS OUTRAGE CULTURE. HAS SHE TURNED LIKE IAN MILES CHEONG? (UPDATE)
http://theralphretort.com/unreal-su...ure-turns-face-like-ian-miles-cheong-8014015/

 

[werepossum]

I wish CNN, MSNBC and HLN would shut up about this AirPlay debate. I want to know how the Republican primaries are going!

Allow me to enlighten you. Close your eyes and imagine a large number of assholes stuffed into a very small car. The assholes all have gout, the car has no air conditioner and no operable windows, and they are driving in circles in Houston in August because the point isn't to go anywhere, it's to be seen as going somewhere.

I very much hope that the FBI catches everyone who called in bomb threats and treats them to an extended stay in a very small room inside a very large prison.

 

[Exophase]

and a reminder of chu's past..

Sorry 0roo but this GamerGate spin of Arthur Chu's "It Ends Tonight" comment is really fucking stupid. There's a ton of ridiculous crackpot theories that are popular with pro-GGers but this is one of the worst and yet most widely supported.

The guy was saying this in response to some conversation he was having with someone else about GGinDC where he was clearly saying that it's all going to be moot soon anyway because the event was going to be over and done with.

Arthur Chu says lots of other things that are really undeniably awful (like those things you linked re: David Auerbach), no need to make up dumb conspiracy theories about how he admitted to being the perpetrator of those bomb threats.

 

[Exophase]

Allow me to enlighten you. Close your eyes and imagine a large number of assholes stuffed into a very small car. The assholes all have gout, the car has no air conditioner and no operable windows, and they are driving in circles in Houston in August because the point isn't to go anywhere, it's to be seen as going somewhere.

You do know he was being sarcastic right? I'm not aware of any major news network that reported on SPJ Airplay, even in light of the bomb threats (but when it happens to one of Anita's canned lectures it lights up the whole media)

I very much hope that the FBI catches everyone who called in bomb threats and treats them to an extended stay in a very small room inside a very large prison.

I've given up on this. It's too draining hoping for things that never happen. Sometimes the bad guys get away with it. The internet enables some real awful shit to go by without repercussion.

 

[werepossum]

You do know he was being sarcastic right? I'm not aware of any major news network that reported on SPJ Airplay, even in light of the bomb threats (but when it happens to one of Anita's canned lectures it lights up the whole media)

I've given up on this. It's too draining hoping for things that never happen. Sometimes the bad guys get away with it. The internet enables some real awful shit to go by without repercussion.

Oh. Well, isn't my face red? My MSM media exposure is limited to CNN Headline News in the mornings as I get ready for work, so I took him at his word. Were all the bomb threats delivered across the Internet? I didn't think they even responded to those.

Regarding Arthur Chu's "It Ends Tonight", that seems strange to me given that this fight has gone on for a year and certainly would end that night, but not having followed it except occasionally here I'll defer to you on it.

 

[Wyndru]

This reminds me of the crazy role-playing cosplay stuff my niece does.

I try to be supportive, but the last one she brought me to was homestuck, which has a character in no clothes, and guess who that was....the fattest one of the whole group....

To each their own I guess.

Don't worry someday you won't give a shit about this stuff anymore (unless you are on the wrong side of the mental spectrum)...in the meantime, live it up.

 

[Exophase]

Oh. Well, isn't my face red? My MSM media exposure is limited to CNN Headline News in the mornings as I get ready for work, so I took him at his word. Were all the bomb threats delivered across the Internet? I didn't think they even responded to those.

In this case the bomb threats were taken especially seriously because they were delivered to both the local newspaper and to the police. They were fairly specific (said what time the alleged bomb was going to go off at) and allegedly included information about the building. So no, they weren't just random tweets or something.

The people organizing and attending Airplay were really pissed because they knew there wasn't an actual bomb there. The building was sweeped the night before and the morning of the event, and the building was secured afterwards. They were able to ignore the first bomb threat (there were SIX in total). But once threats were being sent to the police they were forced to evacuate, along with a bunch of people from their neighborhood homes. So they had no choice in the matter anymore.

I'm pretty sure they told the police ahead of time that chances were high someone was going to do this, but I guess the police had no choice either since the fucker told the press too. Had they done nothing I'm sure that would have been reported on. Why else tell the papers?

Regarding Arthur Chu's "It Ends Tonight", that seems strange to me given that this fight has gone on for a year and certainly would end that night, but not having followed it except occasionally here I'll defer to you on it.

You have to understand the context, "it" refers to the GGinDC meeting where a bunch of pro-GGers hung out, not GamerGate itself. Here's an article where Arthur Chu explains that the tweet had nothing to do with him sending threats:

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2015/05/03/gamergate-dc-gathering-targeted-bomb-threat

 

[0roo0roo]

Liberals Are Waking Up!
Rubin Report with Dave Rubin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JhhBHD0PDo

A Conversation with Dave Rubin
Sargon of Akkad Livestreams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7upPr-QpJA

E-Sports Marijuana Testing, Peter Moore’s Bullshit, PS+ Price Hike, GTA V Mod Bans + More!
EventStatus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQqRjvxfhgM

Harmful Glance At... - Afterlife Empire [Beta]
Harmful Opinions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_hXAXWRDVY

Shooting Straight #19: The Guardian & #Gamergate One Year On
VoiceOfTheForge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ma6wRupp6Q
http://jmillerworks.com/2015/08/13/bye-felicia/


Felicia Day revealed herself to be a tumbrina

devotes a chapter of her new book to gamergate, and cites an obvious equal opportunity troll as "gamergate"...

https://archive.is/yBu5a
https://archive.is/NPDiP
dishonest, or stupid...


https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAc..._felicia_days_gamergate_chapter_lacks_actual/

Bye Felicia(day)
Jaistar2k22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-etWp6HthA

FELICIA DAY IS A FRAUDULENT NUTCASE
http://theralphretort.com/felicia-day-is-a-fraudulent-nutcase-8013015/


Fallen Angels Special: After Airplay Stream
The Anarchangel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-acoK6GROQ

GamerGate Insanity: Aftermath of SPJ Airplay Bombs Over Miami
Lord Nurgle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpUcw9Oq76Q

There Is No Real Evidence That GamerGate Is A Sexist Movement
http://risemiaminews.com/2015/08/there-is-no-real-evidence-that-gamergate-is-a-sexist-movement/

GamerGate Should Never Lead To Real Life Terror
http://risemiaminews.com/2015/08/gamergate-should-never-lead-to-real-life-terror/

I’d Like A Game News Website That Didn’t Hate My Guts
http://risemiaminews.com/2015/08/id-like-a-game-news-website-that-didnt-hate-my-guts/

Gamedropping: How Journalism Outlets Reinforce A False Narrative Without Facts
http://risemiaminews.com/2015/08/ga...-reinforcing-a-false-narrative-without-facts/

How The Media Is Encouraging Public Witch Hunts And Why It’s Time To Fight Back
http://risemiaminews.com/2015/08/ho...c-witch-hunts-and-why-its-time-to-fight-back/

GamerGate Is A Final Push Of Desperation Against Corruption
http://risemiaminews.com/2015/08/gamergate-is-a-final-push-of-desperation-against-corruption/


SPJAirPlay GamerGate Debate
http://www.dereksmart.org/2015/08/spjairplay-gamergate-debate/


How Journalists Can Cover Leaderless Movements Like GamerGate
http://risemiaminews.com/2015/08/how-journalists-can-cover-leaderless-movements-like-gamergate/

This Is Not A Game: Bomb Threats, GamerGate & The Society of Professional Journalists
https://alasdairfraser.wordpress.co...gate-the-society-of-professional-journalists/


Yes John Cridland, 'spotty nerds' are the video game industry's biggest problem...
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-game-industrys-biggest-problem-10455898.html


SPJ AIRPLAY LIVE THREAD: UPDATED ALL DAY LONG (BOMB THREAT CALLED IN! EVACUATION FOLLOWS!)
http://theralphretort.com/spj-airplay-on-live-now-8015015/

Censorship through other means continues ..

Gratipay Followup: A Necessity for Clarity
http://techraptor.net/content/gratipay-followup-a-necessity-for-clarity
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAc...atipay_kicks_techraptor_from_its_service_for/

False flagging of 8chan continues

https://archive.is/20150816162701/h...sted-content-disappears-from-google-searches/


Everybody Wins: Games Keep Growing Up
http://www.appunwrapper.com/2015/08/13/everybody-wins-games-keep-growing-up/
Anne Rice continues to deal with the censorship of political correctness

Anne Rice: We Are Facing a New Era of Censorship, In The Name of Political Correctness
http://www.everyjoe.com/2015/08/12/...ensorship-in-name-of-political-correctness/#1
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153606619520452&id=66435815451

Who hijacked social justice [audio fixed]
Jaistar2k22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgGrt92xVW0
http://jmillerworks.com/2015/08/12/who-hijacked-social-justice/

『SPJ Airplay』 Afternoon Panel - Bomb Threat Special (fixed audio + extras)
❏ PixelPolish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCBuMhawW-g

『#GamerGate Controversy』 Discussion with Oliver Campbell and Stacy Washington - Part 5/5
❏ PixelPolish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZrTwgffdBA

『#GamerGate Controversy』 Discussion with Oliver Campbell and Stacy Washington - Part 4/5
❏ PixelPolish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFZlIZw4TBM

Harmful Opinion - Gay Is Too Straight
Harmful Opinions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF8w5FX56eo

Creating Narratives with Innuendo Studios: Episode 2 - Schrödinger's Legs
Wammy Gate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQwcBloo1Os

‘We Will Not Act’ on Complaints About Racist Harassment – Why Github’s Amy Palamountain is a Liability
http://matthewhopkinsnews.com/?p=2030

Sargon shoutout on Joe Rogan
Joe Rogan Experience #681 - Gad Saad
PowerfulJRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXjbc0jh3pY

and some cringe
SJW Gaming: Agent of Change | Part 4 Final
Let's Talk Games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6P_bl7OSmo

and how low do these people go?

Sorry 0roo but this GamerGate spin of Arthur Chu's "It Ends Tonight" comment is really fucking stupid. There's a ton of ridiculous crackpot theories that are popular with pro-GGers but this is one of the worst and yet most widely supported.

The guy was saying this in response to some conversation he was having with someone else about GGinDC where he was clearly saying that it's all going to be moot soon anyway because the event was going to be over and done with.

Arthur Chu says lots of other things that are really undeniably awful (like those things you linked re: David Auerbach), no need to make up dumb conspiracy theories about how he admitted to being the perpetrator of those bomb threats.

I think you are misinterpreting the joke. "it ends tonight"became a meme because people didn't take him seriously. They were just pointing out the hypocrisy of him whipping up his followers into an anti gamergate fury which may have led one of them to do something extreme, because he and his group were trying to find any way they could to stop it, contacting anyone they could to spread their smears and lies, and they have some rather unstable folks in their following, you only have to read their "tumblr's" The very same behavior he would have pointed out if done on the other side.

This is "mind kill" chu after all.

Irresponsible rhetoric has been resumed by this person.

They were called on it last time, stepped away but as usual, couldn't help themselves and came back.

It Ends Tonight #GamerGate #GGinDC
Captain Privilege
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ssrgxPYcE
But a reliable source for all your major outlets I'm sure, and wikipedia.

 

[werepossum]

I really hate to see Felicia Day and Wil Wheaton getting on board with this - I like them both. I can understand why though - if one expects to make it from minor player to major star in Hollywood, one had damned well better be politically correct. I suspect that a lot of gaming production is the same way, now that gaming is such a big industry.

One positive here is that I learned that Kotaku is actually Gawker. That's one site I'll never hit again.

 

[Jodell88]

I really hate to see Felicia Day and Wil Wheaton getting on board with this - I like them both. I can understand why though - if one expects to make it from minor player to major star in Hollywood, one had damned well better be politically correct. I suspect that a lot of gaming production is the same way, now that gaming is such a big industry.

Don't worry, they'll make a small mistake and the same people they pander to will rake them over the coals.