I agree with everything that you said EXCEPT for the color reproduction statement. A properly calibrated CRT will always beat a properly calibrated LCD in the same bracket (e.g. budget, midrange, high-end) assuming both are good choices in their bracket, and there are no LCDs that can actually match properly calibrated high-end/TotL CRTs in this area. Some come quite close now, of course, and most LCDs these days are certainly more than good enough for the average desktop user or gamer, but that last 5% can be very important if you do desktop publishing for a living (or are anal about these things). Personally, I use a very good LCD (color-wise; good S-IPS panel, 10-bit gamma correction, reasonably well-calibrated) for my normal work computer, and I still would rather use a good AG CRT (probably a G520-based monitor, maybe an F520) if I could afford to have something that enormous on my desk.alse ending. Now let's get to the real story. These are the real facts and not some made up BS opinion. CRT's are superior in some ways to LCD's and LCD's are superior in other ways to CRT's. Whether you buy a CRT or LCD is up to personal preferences and each individual will have to decide for themselves whether a CRT or LCD is right for them.
It's true that a good CRT is superior in some ways to a good LCD. However, there are many advantages that a LCD has that even the best CRT can't touch. You want perfect geometry? CRT's can't produce perfect geometry because it's never calibrated perfectly. I'm sure you can point me to some super ultra expensive CRT that can do perfect geometry. I can also point you to pre-production LCD's that will match or beat a CRT's rear end in color production.
How about flickering? This is a problem that plagues CRT's, especially when you have more than one device plugged into the same outlet. I know because I see it all the time. Flickering images will cause headaches. That is a problem LCD's do not have. I KNOW for a fact that sitting side by side, my LCD does not flicker and it's plugged into the same UPS that my CRT is plugged into (dual monitor setup). The LCD has absolutely no flickering while I notice flickering on the CRT. True, most times the flickering is very minor and I have to stick my face into the monitor to see it. However, when I turn on the TV or even worse, when I plug in an electric heater it is extremely noticeable flickering on the CRT while the LCD is flicker free.
Size and weight is an area where an LCD also is superior to a CRT. Ask the typical corporation that is constrained for space whether they want bulky (and heavy) CRT's on the desks of their employees or LCD's which gives more desk space for work. I sure wouldn't want to carry a portable computer with a CRT attached to it instead of a LCD. There are also power users who require multiple monitors for their work and multiple CRT's are just too bulky.
Originally posted by: Garlic
Originally posted by: Makaveli
What is this nonsense about flickering CRT's in the last 6 years, with my CRT's plugged into a powerbar, i've never had any issues with flickering. I've even had a Air conditioner plugged into the same power bar no flickering!
Only the uneducated complain about flickering because they simply don?t have the knowledge or know how to set the refresh rate from 60 Hz to 85+.
Flickering CRTs are only an issue with the uneducated and inexperienced.
Far from it. Non-native resolutions and ghosting are big minuses against LCDs, along with cost of course.Well its just nice to know that I'm not the only person who shares the same feelings about LCDs and gaming.
Originally posted by: farp96
Here's a screen shot from BF2 on an LCD....This is with a very fast computer btw...
http://www.thecowsaysmoo.org/budwise/pics/%5bH%5d%20Forum/BF2001.jpg
That's why CRT are still better for games...
Originally posted by: ribbon13
For a dedicated FPS fan, nothing will ever replace a GDM-FW900. Buy one while you still can.
Originally posted by: Slickone
Also what if I want to play older games (640x,800x,1024x) on an LCD with a native res of 1280x1024 or 1600x1200? I have a lot of old games I still want to play.
Ditto... especially the native-res thing with old games I still enjoy.I see nothing arrogant about the OP. Wow, people really do get upset when you talk about the shortcomings of LCD! Maybe because they've spent good money 'upgrading' to LCD. Also several people use words such as 'got used to', 'got adjusted to'.
A little ghosting wouldn't bother me (how is that much different than motion blue that 3DFx even had as an added feature in their last years), but as many people still claimed, and as it looks to me, colors are still more vibrant and deep on a CRT. I see no flicker and get no headaches from my 19" Sony Trinitron (AG) 400PS CRT. Slightly off screen geometry has never bothered me.
One of the only arguements some LCD owners give is the leighter weight and smaller footprint, but I've never needed to move my CRT, and I wouldn't be using anything behind my monitor anyway. And if your desk can't support a CRT, you need a better desk.
Also what if I want to play older games (640x,800x,1024x) on an LCD with a native res of 1280x1024 or 1600x1200? I have a lot of old games I still want to play. What do newer LCD's do to handle non-native res better? And as far as newer games, I'm not ready to upgrade to a beefy enough system to play them at the native res.
I'd like to have an LCD when they're better all around, but I've never been the type of person to jump on the bandwagon just because everyone else has, or because it's kewl. So I still wait.
Now on my PC at work, I'm trying my best to get them to get me an LCD.
Originally posted by: ribbon13
Originally posted by: pontifex
WoW looked a lot better on my LCD than it did on my CRT.
I'll attest to that. RPGs are nicer on LCDs.
WoW 37" 1920x1080 8ms ownage
Originally posted by: marks70
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
I too felt the same about LCD monitors for gaming until I played on a friends new 2405FPW, now I own one myself and enjoy all aplications on it including games!!!
Are you saying that you don't have any issues with ghosting whatsoever, because that is probably my biggest gripe?