I feel bad for Asetek. They invented the thing, everyone rips them off and no one buys Asetek stuff. As long as everyone keeps their hands off my D5, I don't care what happens.
Are they going to recall them though? Or once they're bought I'd assume its all safe for us customers?
They can't come into your house and make you give it back. Worse case a royalty would need to be paid. I believe it would be Cooler Master's responsibility though.
The Fury X cooler news is old. I feel sorry in one way for AMD but they have used Asetek before in their coolers (I believe the R9-295) but decided to go with CM instead. Perhaps the lack of manpower to check that the cooler was unique could be blamed on AMD, especially since this was their flagship product. However, it sure seems like they relied on CM to handle the cooling design and that came back to bite them, somewhat, after the Asetek revelation. BTW, the Federal court ruled in favor of Asetek.
The trouble for AMD, unlike Nvidia is that, I think, the Fury X has been controlled by AMD as to AIO coolers so they will take quite a more significant hit paying royalties. Ultimate owners will be fine. Asetek won't come and "take back" their Fury X.
As to Nvidia, only Gigabyte produced this GTX980TI with the "offending" cooler so the loss is probably very limited.
I suspect this might be why the Fury X has been in such tight "demand". AMD may be reluctant to produce more with the CM cooler until the royalty issue is cleared up, and I'm sure it will be.
Neither lost. Swiftech never went to court, they yanked the cooler from the US. Coolit is still in battle with Asetek, filling their own patent claims.
You can still readily buy those designs, and neither are paying Asetek a royalty. Again, you were wrong.
The watercooled 980 Ti from EVGA and Corsair are using AIOs with integrated pump/cold plate manufactured by Asetek, so no problem there.
And LOL @ RS calling Asetek a "patent troll". Way to dilute the term.
I honestly had no idea you can patent something as stupid as that.
that is like general motors patenting car engines placement in the front of the car and the back. and every car maker in the world have to pay gm a fee for their engine placements.
I thought the patent system was stupid as hell when it was revealed for the apple rounded corners, this is the same level of BS.
Some people are just salty, rushing in to defend AMD, and don't understand what a patent troll actually is (a company that only comes up with general ideas and never builds what they dream up) or how this has unfolded. If they'd put their own money and hard work into designing a product only to have it get reverse engineered and blatantly ripped-off, they would see things differently.
This is such a non-issue for AMD. Even if they are forced to stop selling Fury X's with that cooler, as Russian said, they will just use a different cooler. Hell, Fury cards have shown that Fiji temps can be controlled easily with good open-air coolers. AMD can just ditch the water requirement, save a few dollars, and let AIB's put their own coolers on Fury X. Since Fury X turned out to be a performance dud with respects to hype, OC capability, and vs. GTX 980 TI, accruing the extra costs of a water cooler was a poor decision on AMD's part, IMO. If the card would have truly been a performance beast and/or had outstanding OC potential then the water cooler would have been justified.
This is such a non-issue for AMD. Even if they are forced to stop selling Fury X's with that cooler, as Russian said, they will just use a different cooler. Hell, Fury cards have shown that Fiji temps can be controlled easily with good open-air coolers. AMD can just ditch the water requirement, save a few dollars, and let AIB's put their own coolers on Fury X. Since Fury X turned out to be a performance dud with respects to hype, OC capability, and vs. GTX 980 TI, accruing the extra costs of a water cooler was a poor decision on AMD's part, IMO. If the card would have truly been a performance beast and/or had outstanding OC potential then the water cooler would have been justified.
The AIO and ID were huge positive factors in my purchase decision. Love the card......... software could still use some workI'd like to see AMD allow custom designs for FuryX anyhow. You look at reference vs. reference and the fury isn't a performance dud at all. They run pretty much neck and neck @ 1440 (depending on game, of course) and Fury being faster @ 2160. Definitely better O/C'ing for the 980 ti, but maybe custom designs could help that? That and continued driver improvements, DX12, etc. and it could flip the playing field. It's obvious though that the reference design can't compete with custom 980 ti's. Except many of the custom 980 ti's are priced higher.
The AIO and ID were huge positive factors in my purchase decision. Love the card......... software could still use some work
So swiftech just grew a disliking for the US market?
Nope, RS is right and you're wrong. Asetek are a patent troll enabled by the US system. H220 can't be bought in the US and H320 didn't even see the light of the day. No wonder I couldn't find decent reviews of the latter a couple of years earlier despite being easily available in India.
Swiftech's new design is patent-troll proof,
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/swiftech-h220-x-water-cooling,news-48424.html
oh yes it is. read RS's post on the patents and wording.They are not a patent troll, Asetek actually make things to sell based on at least some of their granted patents. They've succeeded in several legal actions so the prior art must not be that compelling in terms of revoking Asetek's key patents.
They are not a patent troll, Asetek actually make things to sell based on at least some of their granted patents. They've succeeded in several legal actions so the prior art must not be that compelling in terms of revoking Asetek's key patents.
The AIO and ID were huge positive factors in my purchase decision. Love the card......... software could still use some work
I would personally never choose a slower water cooled card vs. a faster open-air cooled card when the prices are either the same or the faster card is cheaper. But that's just me.
I'd like to see AMD allow custom designs for FuryX anyhow. You look at reference vs. reference and the fury isn't a performance dud at all. They run pretty much neck and neck @ 1440 (depending on game, of course) and Fury being faster @ 2160. Definitely better O/C'ing for the 980 ti, but maybe custom designs could help that? That and continued driver improvements, DX12, etc. and it could flip the playing field. It's obvious though that the reference design can't compete with custom 980 ti's. Except many of the custom 980 ti's are priced higher.
I didn't choose either or. I have 980ti's as well
oh yes it is. read RS's post on the patents and wording.
That means nothing. A patent troll is simply successful in exploiting a deficient legal code. It doesn't grant them any validity, it merely confirms that they have learned to game the system.
I don't think anyone can maintain a straight face and say that the U.S. patent law system isn't fundamentally broken and still retain a patina of credibility. The smartphone suing and counter-suing should have proved that beyond any reasonable doubt.
Silverforce's invocation of Apple's ridiculous "rounded corner" patent-trolling was a case in point. It's a crude example but it goes to show that until we get significant legal reform, the unhinged patent trolls like Asetek will continue to stifle innovation and encourage the continuation of the theatre of the absurd until they will be forced to stop.
Defending this nonsense helps nobody but the greedy executives at a company which is clearly running out of ideas to grow their company and have chosen to become a parasite in its stead.