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TheUnk

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Yeah this seems easier than Demon's Souls to me but most people say it's harder. I 1 shotted several bosses, Gaping Dragon, Quellag, and the one from the painting plus several of the mid bosses.

Yeah I don't think it's harder either. It's been a while since I played, but couldn't you de-level in Demon's, and the enemies progressively got stronger the more you died?
 

hans030390

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Feb 3, 2005
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I don't see a problem leveling at the forest if you need to but I hope that infinite soul/humanity glitch from the Dragon stone head gets fixed quick. It's already probably too late. I tried it and got a million souls and 99 humanity then killed myself and didn't grab my body. Just wanted to see if it works. I didn't spend any of it...still level 50 something

Yeah, exploits based on glitches aren't good, but Demon's Souls and Dark Souls both have plenty of ways in which they can be exploited that I'm sure the developers implemented for a reason (or are OK with). I mean, the games are supposed to be brutally hard...I think taking any advantage you can would be encouraged.
 

bl4ckfl4g

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Yeah, exploits based on glitches aren't good, but Demon's Souls and Dark Souls both have plenty of ways in which they can be exploited that I'm sure the developers implemented for a reason (or are OK with). I mean, the games are supposed to be brutally hard...I think taking any advantage you can would be encouraged.

Well the forest one is intentional and not a glitch or an exploit. The one I'm talking about is definitely not intended.

Getting millions of souls and max humanity in 4 seconds. Definitely not intentional and shouldn't be encouraged especially in a game that has pvp.
 

Dumac

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Well the forest one is intentional and not a glitch or an exploit. The one I'm talking about is definitely not intended.

Getting millions of souls and max humanity in 4 seconds. Definitely not intentional and shouldn't be encouraged especially in a game that has pvp.

Definitely not. Hope it is patched ASAP
 

TheUnk

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wow so apparently you can pull the plug when you are invaded and the cpu takes over and fights like a fool making for easy humanity/souls
 

smackababy

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Got invaded twice last night and both times they ran away like little bitches. So annoying to have to sign out from XBL because the guy ran away and wouldn't fight. If you're going to invade me, at least be a chum about it and take your death like a man.

Finished Sen's fortress last night and left after getting into Anor Lando or whatever. Summoning NPCs to help with bosses is fun but makes it so much easier.
 

Dumac

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Got invaded twice last night and both times they ran away like little bitches. So annoying to have to sign out from XBL because the guy ran away and wouldn't fight. If you're going to invade me, at least be a chum about it and take your death like a man.

Finished Sen's fortress last night and left after getting into Anor Lando or whatever. Summoning NPCs to help with bosses is fun but makes it so much easier.

???

I'm confused about what this statement means.
 

PhatoseAlpha

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Yeah I don't think it's harder either. It's been a while since I played, but couldn't you de-level in Demon's, and the enemies progressively got stronger the more you died?

Somewhat inaccurate on both counts. You couldn't de-level yourself, but it was quite possible to have a friend soul-suck your level down quite a bit. Enemies don't get stronger the more you die - but if you're in body form and you die, the world tendency for the world you died moves toward black, making the enemies stronger. However, that only happens in body form, which you lose when you die - so it's not every death.




Just finished up the Painted World. Man, that place was bad. And not it the "Got my ass kicked" way, but rather filled with boring enemies with uninteresting drops and generic level design.


The further I get into the game, the more I feel it's considerably weaker then Demon's Souls. Because of the very poor stat scaling on weapons, level just isn't very important - at max level with max stats, the weapon with the best scaling does 2 points more damage then a Lightning Great Sword +5 will do. Other then Endurance and Vitality, there's no reason to put more into any stat then you need to use your equipment. And there's essentially no reason to use any non-elemental upgrade paths - the scaling just can't match them. So you basically end up using a lightning or fire weapon, maybe switching to divine if you're dealing with skeletons.

Means your damage at the end of playthrough 1 is basically your damage forever, and there's not much in the way of build variety. The underlying game mechanics just lack a lot of depth and nuance that DeS had.
 

jdelrio22

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I was at the darkroot garden earlier today, had come up from the hydra area by ladders. Got invaded when I was trying to take out a kitty so I turned around to the bridge.

Guy doesn't have the ring of fog so he shows up and keeps trying to bait me into npcs. He runs at one point so I run back to the bridge and go down a ladder. Guy thinks I have gone into another path and I climb back up a ladder.

Because of learning how to fight the cats I am at about half hp with no estus flasks, guy sees me and runs more into forest. Because I chase I get two treeants to come after me. So I try to take them out but they smack me a bit and the black phantom is hanging out with them trying to get a shot in. So I have less than 1/4 hp now because of bad blocks and smacks. I run over to the bridge and the npcs and black phantom are coming. Sensing that I am low the black phantom gets on the bridge to come for the kill, I whip out my 2H Black knight greatsword and go for R2 - black phantom tries to block but the attack goes through. NPC treeant hits me and I die, as I am falling to the floor I see the black phantom body coming back down from being hit up in the air, his body bounces and is dead. I had gotten credit for killing him with the strong attack from the black sword.

I wish I had a way to record that because it seemed epic being on the bridge with the low light
 

Dumac

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Just got to gaping dragon (yes, I know, I'm late to the party). Man co-oping him is an easy 12.5k souls. And its fun too. His acid almost broke my pyro hand though.
 

TheUnk

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Has anybody here been to those cats in the forest? 1 on my screen makes me lag. 2 on my screen turns it into a slide show.
 

austin316

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Has anybody here been to those cats in the forest? 1 on my screen makes me lag. 2 on my screen turns it into a slide show.

i'm stuck in the same part but instead of going across the bridge at the top of the waterfall, I go the other route. no matter what I do, I either get killed by the trees or the forest hunters/protectors. I hate not being able to "lock on" to the "invisible" hunters. And then when I die, I have a five minute trek back.

Should I just bite the bullet and
pay the blacksmith 20,000 for the key to open the door and be closer to the bonfire?
 

jdelrio22

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Feb 14, 2006
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Hey TheUnk I am not having problems with lag, as far as the trees are concerned I would try and pull them in small 2-3 groups or 1 at a time if its too hard - I haven't played for 3 days now since that little pvp run but i'll see what I can do with the humanoids later tonight.
 

Dumac

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Dec 31, 2005
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Just got Havel's ring. I can wear such heavy armor now.

I also got my ass kicked in the forest by invaders with the fog ring. That thing messes up my playstyle.
 

Rage187

Lifer
Dec 30, 2000
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If I don't have a gold account, does that stop ass bandits from invading my game? Just curious before I pick this up.
 

Dumac

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If I don't have a gold account, does that stop ass bandits from invading my game? Just curious before I pick this up.

This game would really be less than half as good without online features, IMO.
 

Beev

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Apr 20, 2006
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Getting invaded is the only feature I don't like. I like to sit back and enjoy the game at a nice, slow pace. I'm not exaggerating at all when I say that getting invaded ruins my entire gaming session for me.
 

Rage187

Lifer
Dec 30, 2000
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Getting invaded is the only feature I don't like. I like to sit back and enjoy the game at a nice, slow pace. I'm not exaggerating at all when I say that getting invaded ruins my entire gaming session for me.

I'd just unplug the network cable or turn off wifi.
 

Dumac

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Dec 31, 2005
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Getting invaded is the only feature I don't like. I like to sit back and enjoy the game at a nice, slow pace. I'm not exaggerating at all when I say that getting invaded ruins my entire gaming session for me.

Just be in zombie form then. Can't get invaded

Honestly, invasions aren't bad at all. Not to mention in human form you usually have 1-2 companions who can help you fight off the invader.
 
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