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boxleitnerb

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Wow, the guy put so much effort in it for such useless results. Awesome.
Even with 1 GPU the FX can be quite a bit behind.
 

AtenRa

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^ wrong...again.
You happily ignore what other people are writing and spread your FUD. Please stop.

If you care to explain why im wrong ill take it in to consideration but i will not stop posting my opinion simple because you dont like it.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=60552
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rickon66

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This thread is deserving of a second bowl of popcorn! Me thinks that the OP is not going to change his mind even with all of the evidence that has been thrown out here.
 

Homeles

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Wow, the guy put so much effort in it for such useless results. Awesome.
Even with 1 GPU the FX can be quite a bit behind.
I'd like to point out that he is one of the biggest AMD zealots out there.

The TL;DR of those benchmarks is that AMD isn't terribly far behind on performance per dollar outside of gaming, but when you take into consideration that a 2500k @ 4.4GHz is a much lower than average overclock, the power consumption, and the gaming performance... if you buy Bulldozer, you're going to have a bad time.
 

ShintaiDK

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If you care to explain why im wrong ill take it in to consideration but i will not stop posting my opinion simple because you dont like it.

You dont take anything going against bulldozer into consideration. All you do is keep chanting the same manipulated bulldozer nonsense over and over again. In a somewhat desperate hope you can trick more fools into buying that turd. Or simply because you try to get a certain response from it.

I would even consider you manipulation to the borderline of flamebaiting. Because I dont think you believe in your own nonsense either. And only other alternative would be economic motivation.
 
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AtenRa

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You dont take anything going against bulldozer into consideration. All you do is keep chanting the same manipulated bulldozer nonsense over and over again. In a somewhat desperate hope you can trick more fools into buying that turd. Or simply because you try to get a certain response from it.

I would even consider you manipulation to the borderline of flamebaiting. Because I dont think you believe in your own nonsense either. And only other alternative would be economic motivation.

I have shown you data from 9 DX-11 games that support what im saying. That most DX-11 games are GPU limited at 1080p. Not only that but i haven't concealed games where Intel CPUs are superior against AMDs CPUs like Civ V or F1 2011.

You on the other hand attack any AMD thread and people that present you with evidence of what they saying. You are blinded by the blue classes you wear and when someone challenges your perception you have on BD with hard data you believe he’s doing it for profit or to misinform others.

Learn to be objective, I have never said that BD is the best CPU but it can drive a high-end GPU like HD7970 in today’s DX-11 games. Yes there are games that Intel is faster, but saying that BD simple sucks for gaming is spreading FUD.
 

minitron

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Bulldozer is a good choice when no other choice is present. Simple as. Nobody is trying to mislead the crowd here.
By this argument Burger King is a great dining option if there's nothing else around.

I have shown you data from 9 DX-11 games that support what im saying. That most DX-11 games are GPU limited at 1080p. Not only that but i haven't concealed games where Intel CPUs are superior against AMDs CPUs like Civ V or F1 2011.

You on the other hand attack any AMD thread and people that present you with evidence of what they saying. You are blinded by the blue classes you wear and when someone challenges your perception you have on BD with hard data you believe he’s doing it for profit or to misinform others.

Learn to be objective, I have never said that BD is the best CPU but it can drive a high-end GPU like HD7970 in today’s DX-11 games. Yes there are games that Intel is faster, but saying that BD simple sucks for gaming is spreading FUD.
While most games are GPU limited, some of the games that are CPU limited are very popular including SCII, WOW, BF3 MP, Skyrim, etc.

BD is terrible for CPU limited games some of which are extremely popular.

Not only that, but having any moderate to high-end dual-GPU setup makes previously GPU limited games GPU-limited for BD.

BD sucks for gaming, get over it fanboy.
 
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I have shown you data from 9 DX-11 games that support what im saying. That most DX-11 games are GPU limited at 1080p. Not only that but i haven't concealed games where Intel CPUs are superior against AMDs CPUs like Civ V or F1 2011.

You on the other hand attack any AMD thread and people that present you with evidence of what they saying. You are blinded by the blue classes you wear and when someone challenges your perception you have on BD with hard data you believe he’s doing it for profit or to misinform others.

Learn to be objective, I have never said that BD is the best CPU but it can drive a high-end GPU like HD7970 in today’s DX-11 games. Yes there are games that Intel is faster, but saying that BD simple sucks for gaming is spreading FUD.

Even if one accepts your contention that Bulldozer is "good enough" for gaming, the problem is that it is inferior to Intel and offers no other compelling advantages except in certain very limited, highly threaded applications. If Bulldozer were cheaper or used less power, an argument could be made for it. However, right now, at Microcenter, the FX8150 is actually 30.00 more expensive than the 2500K, and also uses more power.

You seem to be very determined to counter any argument in favor of Intel by citing the same data over an over again, and refusing to see any other side of the question, such as evaluating price/performance/watt instead of whether something is simply "good enough".
 

Magic Carpet

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By this argument Burger King is a great dining option if there's nothing else around.
If you can't afford anything better, then yes. If you don't want to pay more, then yes.

You decide. Nobody forces anybody of you to buy AMD processors. And it's been said thousand of times, they are not very good in games, not news. But, they're not total crap, as most of you make them look like. I know, it's very hard to refrain from using only binary logic but.. at least try.
 
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If you can't afford anything better, then yes. If you don't want to pay more, then yes.

You decide. Nobody forces anybody of you to buy AMD processors. And it's been said thousand of times, they are not very good in games, not news. But, they're not total crap, as most of you make them look like. I know, it's very hard to refrain from using only binary logic but.. at least try.

As I just said, the point is that Bulldozer is NOT cheaper than an intel processor of better performance, especially in games. Buying AMD is more like buying a $6.00 whopper. Sure, it will fill you up, but there are better options for the money.
 

AtenRa

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Even if one accepts your contention that Bulldozer is "good enough" for gaming, the problem is that it is inferior to Intel and offers no other compelling advantages except in certain very limited, highly threaded applications. If Bulldozer were cheaper or used less power, an argument could be made for it. However, right now, at Microcenter, the FX8150 is actually 30.00 more expensive than the 2500K, and also uses more power.

You seem to be very determined to counter any argument in favor of Intel by citing the same data over an over again, and refusing to see any other side of the question, such as evaluating price/performance/watt instead of whether something is simply "good enough".

At MC you can get an FX8120 + motherboard (970 chipset) for $194,98.
http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/AMDbundlePROMO.html

Even outside of MC, the FX8120 is cheaper than 2500K/3570. Im not saying that BD is better overall, but if you are in a low budget it is an option.
 

Phynaz

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And for $25 or $30 (a couple of percent difference in system price) you can get a 2500K that lays the Derpdozer to waste.

50% greater performance for a 2% price increase. How can you you argue against that?
 

lehtv

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FX8120 performs the same in games as an FX-4100 (perhaps with the exception of BF3 MP which likes threads) which you can get for $100 along with a free mobo from MC... So no it wouldn't make sense to buy FX8100 except if you were looking for a 'budget' solution to heavily multithreaded productivity work.
 

minitron

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If you can't afford anything better, then yes. If you don't want to pay more, then yes.

You decide. Nobody forces anybody of you to buy AMD processors. And it's been said thousand of times, they are not very good in games, not news. But, they're not total crap, as most of you make them look like. I know, it's very hard to refrain from using only binary logic but.. at least try.
The point is for the same price as a BD build you can build a faster Intel build. At any price point.
 

ShintaiDK

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120-10.html

As such, we're almost-shockingly left without an AMD CPU to recommend at any price point.

I wonder how AtenRa gonna crawl out of this one. Because instead of getting a FX8120, you are better of with a 68$ (newegg) G630. And we talk 1080p gaming here. But somehow I dont think he gonna recommend it. Because it aint an AMD CPU. Even tho it obviously is the better choice arcording to his own metrics.

 
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MustangSVT

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120-10.html



I wonder how AtenRa gonna crawl out of this one. Because instead of getting a FX8120, you are better of with a 68$ (newegg) G630. And we talk 1080p gaming here. But somehow I dont think he gonna recommend it. Because it aint an AMD CPU. Even tho it obviously is the better choice arcording to his own metrics.


He doesnt need to crawl out of that one, he will just ignore it as it is too much truth.

I am certain these AMD fanboys are just trolling. How can anyone start with, I want a gaming rig, which FX chip is best? lool
 
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