Intel killed gaming dual cores, by locking the multipliers.
AMD is not relevant when it comes to PC gaming CPU at the moment. It is only Half the performance of equivalent priced intel CPUs despite the unlocked multiplier.
When you overclock AMD to maximum frequency, it STILL under-performs stock intel CPU in games. This makes me freaking angry.
Basically this ^
Especially about intel killing gaming dual cores. Get a 2500K, 3570 is garbage for overclocking. Its like 5% better clock for clock but infinitley hotter and wont clock as high, thus making the 2500K faster in the end.
I would go with the Intel® Core i5-3570K for a couple reasons over the Intel Core i5-2500K. Due to the IPC improvements of the Intel Core i5-3570K you are going to get the same type of performance out of it overclocked at a lower clock speed. Also you are going to have native USB 3.0 support and PCI-E 3.0 support from the board.
I love when people spread fud. Wont overclock as high? Maybe for the release chips but not current ones. Anyone who buys a 2500K over a 3570K today is a dumbass.
Why should he listen to a guy who only has his 2500K at 3.7Ghz?
3.7ghz is basically in the turbo boost range isn't it?
Yes haha
I love when people spread fud. Wont overclock as high? Maybe for the release chips but not current ones. Anyone who buys a 2500K over a 3570K today is a dumbass.
Why should he listen to a guy who only has his 2500K at 3.7Ghz?
This isn't really fud. It was true on release and it's still true.
I know everyone has their reasons, but.....
If you want and easier time overclocking, and proven longevity, 2500k is the way to go, and with z68 it is often $50-75 cheaper in the (USA) than 3570k+z77.
If I built another computer today I'd still go with the 2500k, because the overclocking reliability is what matters most in the end.
Yes, the 3570k will hit the same performance level, but it's still too new technologically, where "new" has systematically been a BAD thing,
I've been shafted more times than I could count for being an early adopter.
Ivy bridge is a die shrink of sandy bridge so why would the longevity be less then sandy bridge?
the fin fet 22nm are a completely different tech. Makes me hesitant. chances are good that' it'd be fine, but you can't argue with time-tested. :sneaky:
*yawn*
Seriously? There is not that much that changed. It can actually handle higher temps anyway. Where a 75c SB is considered ok you can go to the 80s with IB and be fine. Even up to 90c with IBT is considered not that bad. Thermal wall you say? Yeah I dunno about that...it's not throttling and it is well within Intel's thermal specs.
The IPC improvement is only relevant at stock volts. Once you start overvolting the IPC improvement is nullified because 3570K hits a temperature wall sooner. 7-series boards with native USB 3.0 are compatible with 2500K just as with 3570K. PCIe 3.0 is relevant only for multi-GPU setups (tri-SLI / trifire more so than dual-GPU).
However, in 3570K's favor it also consumes less power, has a faster iGPU and faster QuickSync performance (not relevant to most users).
*yawn*
Seriously? There is not that much that changed. It can actually handle higher temps anyway. Where a 75c SB is considered ok you can go to the 80s with IB and be fine. Even up to 90c with IBT is considered not that bad. Thermal wall you say? Yeah I dunno about that...it's not throttling and it is well within Intel's thermal specs.
you can take a SB to 90C as well if you can take a IB to 90.