Gaming mouse

[canadageek]

it's powered by frickin lazers!! how can it not be great?

 

[mhillary]

I think the Microsoft's virsion of a mouse is really good.

 

[Concillian]

Personally I dislike the feel of the Microsoft mice, so haven't owned one.

I owned the original razer boomslang and the only problem I had with it was that I wasn't used to two button mice (having always had three button mice). I love the feel and the button sensitivity, but moved up to optical, and wanted attitional buttons.

I currently use an MX510 on a fUNC 1030 surface and honestly you cannot go wrong with either Razer or Logitech. Both mice feel great and offer excellent precision, and I've had good experiences with the build quality from both manufacturers. The only mouse I bought from either that is not still in use was the original Logetech serial mouseman 3 button mouse I bought over 10 years ago (I call it the triangle mouse, Logitech later made a dark grey version and marketed it as a Wingman 'gaming' mouse) The LMB started intermittently not working recently. I think 10 years is pretty good longevity for a ball mouse. Other than that, the Razer Boomslang and 5 logitech optical mice are going strong (between my computers and ones I have built for friends/relatives)

 

[knyghtbyte]

well, thanx for the feedback folks....

looks like im going to settle for the 510...mainly as it has a cord....i dont like the idea of a slower response time due to cordless...

would rather get 518 or diamondback, but cant find a site im willing to trust to buy it from that has either in stock :-(

(i wont buy from a website unless someone i know personally has given me a good word of mouth review of the place)

 

[Reiniku]

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
well, thanx for the feedback folks....

looks like im going to settle for the 510...mainly as it has a cord....i dont like the idea of a slower response time due to cordless...

would rather get 518 or diamondback, but cant find a site im willing to trust to buy it from that has either in stock :-(

(i wont buy from a website unless someone i know personally has given me a good word of mouth review of the place)

that's a shame since most reputable online retailers tend to be passed on through forums such as these than word of mouth.

 

[knyghtbyte]

Originally posted by: Reiniku

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
well, thanx for the feedback folks....

looks like im going to settle for the 510...mainly as it has a cord....i dont like the idea of a slower response time due to cordless...

would rather get 518 or diamondback, but cant find a site im willing to trust to buy it from that has either in stock :-(

(i wont buy from a website unless someone i know personally has given me a good word of mouth review of the place)

that's a shame since most reputable online retailers tend to be passed on through forums such as these than word of mouth.

sorry, my bad for not making clear, im in the UK, so most e-tailers mentioned here aint gonna be useful for me, and one or two that have been mentioned in the UK i've known people in real life who have used them and not been satisfied.....
mainly i trust Amazon.co.uk, Overclockers.co.uk and Computer@Exchange (a shop chain that has a website that i've known for years)
Generally any well known corporate site is trustworthy, just that some people get unlucky and have problems that are rare in comparison to how many customers they deal with...

example being Dell, i've had 4 computers from Dell, all of the first 3 were fine, never a problem with them that was Dells fault, and they always helped me out quickly and efficiently when i had a problem....the 4th one arrived and was out of action within 3 days, and the tech support cocked up getting the pickup arranged for it to be taken back, so i was understandably frustrated, but as Dell had always been good to me i took it in my stride and accepted that human error will always make it impossible to attain 100% customer satisfaction. However if it had been my first time using Dell, and i wasnt as patient a person, i might say Dell are really bad, and disorganized etc etc...which wouldnt be true or fair on them, because if they were that bad all the time they would never be as big as they are as a company.

I am not generally willing to use small website companies that are probably just one or two people running a middleman import-export style business, i've been on the sharp end of the fraud stick before so i dont trust anyone my c/c or bank company wont reimburse me from without question. I understand that big companies normally grow from smaller ones, but i've been had so im not willing to participate in that section anymore, i'll stick to corporate....lol

edit: btw, i got paid today, so ordered the MX510, found it for £30, cheapest site was Amazon, nowhere else was doing it that price, well, mebbe one was like £32, but they wanted to charge for delivery as well.......pfft....amazon is free
also got the Logitech USB Premium 30 headset....
want a USB headset as when i use the headphone socked on front of puter i get little buzz noises inside my head when i scroll my mousewheel...lol...looks comfy too...inline volume will be handy during the CS:Source frag sessions too...heh

 

[gvayl]

I second that...intellimouse optical ROCKS. Its the best....for everything including gaming...

 

[Cares]

Originally posted by: gvayl
I second that...intellimouse optical ROCKS. Its the best....for everything including gaming...

:thumbsup:

 

[w00t]

um dont listen to those people about wireless mouse
A) Razer diamondback
B) Logitech mx-510

i have used a mx700 ( friends sister same guy ) and a mx1000 ( my friends he took back )

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: boborich
Logitech MX510

nuff said

 

[Bojangles139]

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
well, thanx for the feedback folks....

looks like im going to settle for the 510...mainly as it has a cord....i dont like the idea of a slower response time due to cordless...

shessh. ya, wireless has MASSIVE lag man, i can barely move my cursor 'round.

once your willing to pay more then 20-30 bux on a mouse, they are all the same. when you start getting into dpi and refresh rates, your getting into therotical and technical aspects. in real life applicications and uses, you DO NOT notice such things. mx510 and up, they all has nearly identical performances. only differences are user end. ergonomics, wieight, cord, battery life, and price. those are the only true differences between the majority of mice.

anybody who comes out trying to say refresh rate, usb bandwith usage verses ps/2 bandwith, and lag issues will mostly like not know what the hell they're talking about. rather believe they sound smart by spouting all that non-sense gibberish.

Real life usage, go by what you like. go by feel, weight, convience and price. everything else is gonna be a very distant second place.

 

[YBS1]

Originally posted by: Bojangles139
shessh. ya, wireless has MASSIVE lag man, i can barely move my cursor 'round.

once your willing to pay more then 20-30 bux on a mouse, they are all the same. when you start getting into dpi and refresh rates, your getting into therotical and technical aspects. in real life applicications and uses, you DO NOT notice such things. mx510 and up, they all has nearly identical performances. only differences are user end. ergonomics, wieight, cord, battery life, and price. those are the only true differences between the majority of mice.

anybody who comes out trying to say refresh rate, usb bandwith usage verses ps/2 bandwith, and lag issues will mostly like not know what the hell they're talking about. rather believe they sound smart by spouting all that non-sense gibberish.

Real life usage, go by what you like. go by feel, weight, convience and price. everything else is gonna be a very distant second place.

You sound just like all those "30 and/or 60 fps is all the human eye can see" people. Just because you can't tell a difference between them doesn't mean no one else can. For instance the lag you commented about, I'm in the same boat, I never detected a difference between the MX500 and 700 in terms of a feeling of lag. However, some people swear it's there so I'll just have to take their word for it as to it affecting them. On the other hand I can easily tell the differences in dpi of various mice. I can sense it between the MX series to the Viper, from that to a Diamondback, and even from the 1600dpi DB to the 2000dpi Boomslang (although with the DB now the pros of the 5 year old Boomslang design have finally been outweighed by it's cons), so I'll have to assume for now if an even higher dpi mouse comes out in the future I'll be able to take advantage of that too.

 

[SonicIce]

when will they start shipping mice that come with pads?!

edit: i have been proven wrong

 

[Googer]

http://www20.tomshardware.com/game/200504022/index.html

 

[knyghtbyte]

Originally posted by: YBS1

Originally posted by: Bojangles139
shessh. ya, wireless has MASSIVE lag man, i can barely move my cursor 'round.

once your willing to pay more then 20-30 bux on a mouse, they are all the same. when you start getting into dpi and refresh rates, your getting into therotical and technical aspects. in real life applicications and uses, you DO NOT notice such things. mx510 and up, they all has nearly identical performances. only differences are user end. ergonomics, wieight, cord, battery life, and price. those are the only true differences between the majority of mice.

anybody who comes out trying to say refresh rate, usb bandwith usage verses ps/2 bandwith, and lag issues will mostly like not know what the hell they're talking about. rather believe they sound smart by spouting all that non-sense gibberish.

Real life usage, go by what you like. go by feel, weight, convience and price. everything else is gonna be a very distant second place.

You sound just like all those "30 and/or 60 fps is all the human eye can see" people. Just because you can't tell a difference between them doesn't mean no one else can. For instance the lag you commented about, I'm in the same boat, I never detected a difference between the MX500 and 700 in terms of a feeling of lag. However, some people swear it's there so I'll just have to take their word for it as to it affecting them. On the other hand I can easily tell the differences in dpi of various mice. I can sense it between the MX series to the Viper, from that to a Diamondback, and even from the 1600dpi DB to the 2000dpi Boomslang (although with the DB now the pros of the 5 year old Boomslang design have finally been outweighed by it's cons), so I'll have to assume for now if an even higher dpi mouse comes out in the future I'll be able to take advantage of that too.

Im a CS:S gamer in a clan, so minute differences can actually be possible to tell....
a few things i do have minor differences, for instance hifi/home cinema, varying the speaker cable you use can yield different results in sound, its not imaginary either. I only drink water when im not drinking alcohol, i can tell the difference happily between different mineral waters, or between mineral and tap etc.....
I would say if you cannot notice subtle differences then you are either a cumbersome oaf, or simply apathetic

after hearing the pros and cons of the various mice mentioned, the one that was actually attainable that seems like it will be the most useful to me was the 510.....im quite happy using a mouse with cord......not just to reduce any lag effect either......its handy as i sit in an armchair when i use my puter, 4 remote controls on one arm, my mouse and pad on the other arm, keyboard in my lap...so when the mouse gets knocked on the floor, i can just grab hold of the cord from the PC and reel the little blighter back up without moving from my comfy position

 

[SonicIce]

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
so when the mouse gets knocked on the floor, i can just grab hold of the cord from the PC and reel the little blighter back up without moving from my comfy position

good point

 

[mdchesne]

mx510. only true gaming mouse there is. razors and all those new ones have the same specs but they cost about $50 more. and i for one like the look of the mx510 compared to a basic mouse with the same dpi and response time

 

[Bojangles139]

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte

Im a CS:S gamer in a clan, so minute differences can actually be possible to tell....
a few things i do have minor differences, for instance hifi/home cinema, varying the speaker cable you use can yield different results in sound, its not imaginary either.

varying how? the lenght? no. the gauge? sure, if you use 30 gauge wire you'll adversly effect the performance.

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
I only drink water when im not drinking alcohol, i can tell the difference happily between different mineral waters, or between mineral and tap etc.....

thats an idiotic example.

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
I would say if you cannot notice subtle differences then you are either a cumbersome oaf, or simply apathetic

Placebo Effect. you hear or tell the differences you want.

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
after hearing the pros and cons of the various mice mentioned, the one that was actually attainable that seems like it will be the most useful to me was the 510.....im quite happy using a mouse with cord......not just to reduce any lag effect either......its handy as i sit in an armchair when i use my puter, 4 remote controls on one arm, my mouse and pad on the other arm, keyboard in my lap...so when the mouse gets knocked on the floor, i can just grab hold of the cord from the PC and reel the little blighter back up without moving from my comfy position

there is no lag difference between wired and wireless. period.

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[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: Bojangles139
there is no lag difference between wired and wireless. period.

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I don't need any reviews, articles, or tests.. I noticed lag in any wireless mouse.
I've owned an MX700 and has used an MX1000.. both can't hold a candle to my Razer.
Something like a wireless keyboard doesn't need sudden, accurate response times; a mouse for gaming does.
Period.
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[knyghtbyte]

Originally posted by: Bojangles139

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte

Im a CS:S gamer in a clan, so minute differences can actually be possible to tell....
a few things i do have minor differences, for instance hifi/home cinema, varying the speaker cable you use can yield different results in sound, its not imaginary either.

varying how? the lenght? no. the gauge? sure, if you use 30 gauge wire you'll adversly effect the performance.

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
I only drink water when im not drinking alcohol, i can tell the difference happily between different mineral waters, or between mineral and tap etc.....

thats an idiotic example.

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
I would say if you cannot notice subtle differences then you are either a cumbersome oaf, or simply apathetic

Placebo Effect. you hear or tell the differences you want.

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
after hearing the pros and cons of the various mice mentioned, the one that was actually attainable that seems like it will be the most useful to me was the 510.....im quite happy using a mouse with cord......not just to reduce any lag effect either......its handy as i sit in an armchair when i use my puter, 4 remote controls on one arm, my mouse and pad on the other arm, keyboard in my lap...so when the mouse gets knocked on the floor, i can just grab hold of the cord from the PC and reel the little blighter back up without moving from my comfy position

there is no lag difference between wired and wireless. period.

Review 1
Review 2
Review 3
What... another review...?
Need I continue....?

Different twist to the cable, the element used in the cabling, its terminals, shielding etc all lends to how the sound is transfered......some allows a more spacious sound, some allows the bass to be more potent or lighter...i've tried different cable on the same set of speakers and it does change the sound slightly......im imagining you own a little Sony Micro Hifi yourself?

why is the water an idiotic sample? i drink only water during the day, i find the tastes different......they are subtle but they are there.

Placebo effect? no, thats when someone/thing aspires to convince you to assume a result based on what you have been told/seen........and succeeds....

And of course there will be lag from a wireless device, in general it may not be noticable by a large degree, but by its very nature of not having a solid link it cannot be foolproof against interference......i run a lot of high power electrical equipment in my room and a lot of that is electro-magnetics, so its quite possible it would suffer occasional hiccups...which would prove fatal in a game of CSS....which im also assuming you dont play, or not to a Clan ranking Ladder level anyhow.....

Im not going to read the reviews u posted because i already viewed a bunch on various sites/magazine....

I did however today receive my MX510......fantastically happy with it, gonna take me a couple of days to get used to it, but have already noticed a vast difference of playability between it and my Dell optical (i think based on the intellimouse). Only curious thing about it is the fact its USB but on a desktop PC u have to plug it through a PS/2 connector...lol...

 

[Googer]

The MX518 mouse is now avalable for sale, I just got a letter from Logitech.
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=...21&countryid=19&languageid=1&ad=notify



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