Gaming on P4 2.8GHz

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cdmccool

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You liked what he said because its what you wanted to hear. Most of us are being realistic but that is something that you refuse to accept. Go right ahead and upgrade your gpu though and have fun getting the same framerate that you already get.

You aren't understanding.

My computer is fine for what I use it for. 20-25 fps in the 1 video game I occasionally play is acceptable to me.

The ONLY thing I'm interested in is if I will see a boost in performance by "upgrading" to a newer, entry-level card.
 

trek554

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You aren't understanding.

My computer is fine for what I use it for. 20-25 fps in the 1 video game I occasionally play is acceptable to me.

The ONLY thing I'm interested in is if I will see a boost in performance by "upgrading" to a newer, entry-level card.
What game are you even talking about? That should have been the FIRST thing you mentioned.
 

nurturedhate

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Most of you are completely off base. The OP isnt requesting to play modern games. He isn't requesting a new budget build. He is saying that his current build does what he wants it to do 99% of the time.

OP:

Do you know what motherboard you have, mainly do you have an AGP or PCIe slot? (7300le does come in both agp and pcie)
What game are you playing?
Do you need to buy from a particular website (country restrictions and such)?
 
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trek554

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Most of you are completely off base. The OP isnt requesting to play modern games. He isn't requesting a new budget build. He is saying that his current build does what he wants it to do 99% of the time.

OP:

Do you know what motherboard you have, mainly do you have an AGP or PCIe slot? (7300le does come in both agp and pcie)
What game are you playing?
Do you need to buy from a particular website (country restrictions and such)?
What does the title of this thread say? And where in the OP did he say he was only trying to play one old game? Based on what he originally asked, most people here were certainly not off base. And in the 4th post of this thread, I figured he meant to say games not game.
 

trek554

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OP's second post. Don't derail the thread.
I mentioned that in my reply and how am I derailing the thread? I was simply replying to YOUR comment. If the OP wants an answer for one game then he needs to stop playing around and say what game he is talking about.
 

cdmccool

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Most of you are completely off base. The OP isnt requesting to play modern games. He isn't requesting a new budget build. He is saying that his current build does what he wants it to do 99% of the time.

OP:

Do you know what motherboard you have, mainly do you have an AGP or PCIe slot? (7300le does come in both agp and pcie)
What game are you playing?
Do you need to buy from a particular website (country restrictions and such)?

It's PCIe. In asking for recommendations I should have definitely mentioned it, but I was more interested in if my cpu is currently bottlenecking my video card.

There are only two scenarios here.

A.)CPU is a bottleneck, and upgrading my video card won't affect fps.

or

B.)CPU is not a bottleneck, and upgrading my video card boosts fps. Maybe slightly, maybe quite a bit. I don't know, that's why I'm asking you fine folks.
 

Bateluer

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Calm down guys. The OP's system is ancient, and he'd be better off with a cheap ~300 dollar build, noted early on. But if he just wants to play the few games he's interested in now, then a simple video card upgrade wouldn't hurt.

A Radeon 6450 or similar class card would be what he needs, if he has a PCIe slot. I wouldn't go any higher than that because the P4 wouldn't make it worth while. If he has an AGP slot, he's likely screwed. It wouldn't be worth the effort to track down a used AGP card that would work for the mediocre bump in performance it'd bring.

I still think spending the money on a real upgrade would be the better route personally though. A simple build is really that that expensive and would yield far more benefits than just raw performance.
 

Arzachel

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It's PCIe. In asking for recommendations I should have definitely mentioned it, but I was more interested in if my cpu is currently bottlenecking my video card.

There are only two scenarios here.

A.)CPU is a bottleneck, and upgrading my video card won't affect fps.

or

B.)CPU is not a bottleneck, and upgrading my video card boosts fps. Maybe slightly, maybe quite a bit. I don't know, that's why I'm asking you fine folks.

Depends. What is the game you're playing and at what resolution?
 

cdmccool

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What does the title of this thread say? And where in the OP did he say he was only trying to play one old game? Based on what he originally asked, most people here were certainly not off base. And in the 4th post of this thread, I figured he meant to say games not game.

This is the second time I'm quoting this from my original post in a reply.

The 7300 is sufficient for my needs but just barely. If $50 for a newer video card will give me better performance I figure, why not?

I don't know how to make it any clearer. The 7300 is sufficient, I just want to know if a cheap $50 video card will give me a little boost.
 

trek554

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This is the second time I'm quoting this from my original post in a reply.



I don't know how to make it any clearer. The 7300 is sufficient, I just want to know if a cheap $50 video card will give me a little boost.
That does not really say anything and for newer modern games your cpu is too slow anyway. Please stop jacking people around and say what game you are referring to.
 
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cdmccool

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That does not really say anything and for modern games your cpu is too slow anyway. Please stop jacking people around and say what game you are referring to.

The game does not matter.

Either my P4 is bottleneck or it's not.
 

Arkadrel

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@Cdmccool

yes a cheap 50$ video card, is likely to be much much faster, and depending on what resolutions you play at, that ll likely translate into huge performance increases.

However even at lower resolutions because the "7300 LE" is so slow, there is going to be huge increase just from a graphics card. I suspect your GPU is more of a bottleneck than your CPU. However Id still consider looking into overclocking your CPU as well.

If your almost happy with your performance, maybe something like this:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=604817&Sku=P450-5574

5570 for ~29$ (+ free shipping)

I dont think they come much cheaper than that, for that level of performance.
I actually "rate" this price as a *holy sh*t thats cheap* league, for its performance.
Grab one of those while they still have them on in store lmao.
 
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trek554

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@Cdmccool

yes a cheap 50$ video card, is likely to be much much faster, and depending on what resolutions you play at, that ll likely translate into huge performance increases.

However even at lower resolutions because the "7300 LE" is so slow, there is going to be huge increase just from a graphics card. I suspect your GPU is more of a bottleneck than your CPU. However Id still consider looking into overclocking your CPU as well.

If your almost happy with your performance, maybe something like this:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=604817&Sku=P450-5574

5570 for ~29$ (+ free shipping)

I dont think they come much cheaper than that, for that level of performance.
You have no idea what game he is even playing though. And since he refuses to even tell us then why bother with him anymore?
 

cdmccool

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@Cdmccool

yes a cheap 50$ video card, is likely to be much much faster, and depending on what resolutions you play at, that ll likely translate into huge performance increases.

However even at lower resolutions because the "7300 LE" is so slow, there is going to be huge increase just from a graphics card. I suspect your GPU is more of a bottleneck than your CPU. However Id still consider looking into overclocking your CPU as well.

If your almost happy with your performance, maybe something like this:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=604817&Sku=P450-5574

5570 for ~29$ (+ free shipping)

I dont think they come much cheaper than that, for that level of performance.

That looks great. Thank you.
 

Joseph F

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@Cdmccool

yes a cheap 50$ video card, is likely to be much much faster, and depending on what resolutions you play at, that ll likely translate into huge performance increases.

However even at lower resolutions because the "7300 LE" is so slow, there is going to be huge increase just from a graphics card. I suspect your GPU is more of a bottleneck than your CPU. However Id still consider looking into overclocking your CPU as well.

If your almost happy with your performance, maybe something like this:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=604817&Sku=P450-5574

5570 for ~29$ (+ free shipping)

I dont think they come much cheaper than that, for that level of performance.
I actually "rate" this price as a *holy sh*t thats cheap* league, for its performance.
Grab one of those while they still have them on in store lmao.

If he's adamant about only upgrading his GPU, I would recommend this as well.
However, I seriously doubt that he has PCI-E, as he's running a P4 2.8.
If he doesn't have PCI-E, There is no card at a reasonable price that is worth upgrading to.
Have you seen the prices on AGP GeForce 7800GS's?
 
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Quantos

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The game does not matter.

Either my P4 is bottleneck or it's not.

Actually it does matter. The answer to your P4 being a bottleneck or not could depend what game it is you're playing. If we knew what it was, that would be easier to answer.

My question to you is the following: what exactly is your budget for this? You obviously don't want to spend a lot on computer parts, but are still considering a slight upgrade. To me, that means something's bothering you about your computer's current performance. If that lack of performance is only a few FPS in a pretty old game, which is the sole thing that you play, then yes a small upgrade wouldn't hurt. However, knowing what the game is would help us give you a straight answer as to what exactly would be the best upgrade for you. :thumbsup:

edit: as others have said, whether or not you have a pci-e is also a very important question!
 

cdmccool

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You have no idea what game he is even playing though. And since he refuses to even tell us then why bother with him anymore?

I'll give you a hint, it's about 10 years old.

You get 3 guesses then I will give you another hint. Then you get 2 more guesses then another hint. Finally, you get a single guess.

Go.
 

trek554

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I'll give you a hint, it's about 10 years old.

You get 3 guesses then I will give you another hint. Then you get 2 more guesses then another hint. Finally, you get a single guess.

Go.



Why anyone would even bother helping you at this point is beyond me.
 

MrTeal

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Seriously, you made an account today to singly crap on this thread?

OP -Warcraft 3? BF1942?
 

cdmccool

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You obviously don't want to spend a lot on computer parts, but are still considering a slight upgrade. To me, that means something's bothering you about your computer's current performance.

It's not. You may have missed my second post, but no problem. I get 20-25 fps in a single game. If spending $30 on a video card gets me 40 fps or possibly more, then why not? It's only $30.

And you guys are right, I should've mentioned I have PCI-E in my original post. Definitely important.

Thank you to everyone who gave me a legitimate answer to my question. I'm going to pick up the 5570.

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