Confused Mum

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Hi there.
Hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
My 14 year old son has asked for a gaming pc for Christmas. My budget is minimal (£400-£500) and I have no idea where to start.

He wants to play the following games:
planet coaster
City skylines
Dark souls 3

Looking at possibly buying a pre owned machine as I’d like to get a better spec for my money. Could anyone advise me what sort of pc I should be looking at and where the best place is to get one?

Thanks
 

Ketchup

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Welcome to Anandtech (AT). Right here is a nice computer, right at the top of your budget:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/VIBOX-Cent...1510329461&sr=1-1&refinements=p_36:9708208031

And it doesn't come with Windows, so plan on an extra 100 pounds for that:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Windows-En...TF8&qid=1510329754&sr=1-1&keywords=windows+10

I don't know about where you are, but Amazon is "where it's at" in the US right now, but there are plenty of GOOD deals and BAD deads. So you may want to shop their site and see if you can find anything better.


Also, your budget can get you a PC that plays the games you listed, but just barely. If you are only getting him something for gaming, your money would be better sent with a PlayStation 4 or xBox One.
 

Confused Mum

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Thanks Ketchup, I’ll check this out. He will be using it for homework too (allegedly!)

Welcome to Anandtech (AT). Right here is a nice computer, right at the top of your budget:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/VIBOX-Centre-Desktop-Gaming-WarThunder/dp/B007P2F2XG/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1510329461&sr=1-1&refinements=p_36:9708208031

And it doesn't come with Windows, so plan on an extra 100 pounds for that:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Windows-En...TF8&qid=1510329754&sr=1-1&keywords=windows+10

I don't know about where you are, but Amazon is "where it's at" in the US right now, but there are plenty of GOOD deals and BAD deads. So you may want to shop their site and see if you can find anything better.


Also, your budget can get you a PC that plays the games you listed, but just barely. If you are only getting him something for gaming, your money would be better sent with a PlayStation 4 or xBox One.
 

DigDog

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that is a really low budget.

first off, you have two options: to buy pre-built, or to build it yourself.
Building a PC is VERY easy. you read the 1-piece of paper instructions, you plug the thing in the only plug it can be plugged in, and you press the power button.

when you buy pc parts, each part comes with its own warranty. there will be no aftercare, but very few prebuilt pc sellers offer aftercare (i.e. "my windows doesn't change color" "my mouse cursor is the wrong size") and if they do, it tends to be very expensive.
Learning how to use a PC is something that everyone needs to do at some point .. unless they are willing to pay double and use Apple products.

You can build a PC easily. This is an activity you can do with your son and shouldn't take more than a few hours.

ok, second point. your budget is really low. at that price point, you will have to make hard choices that will be felt for some time. i recommend rising the budget a bit, because spending just a little more can get you much better modern quality components, and a better PC experience.

Also, a properly built pc will last you easily 4+ years without the need for an upgrade.

here is a reasonable part list, and why i chose each piece.

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vDQjwV
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vDQjwV/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8350K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£158.49 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£92.15 @ Amazon UK)
this is a modern CPU. it's in the lower power bracket for the new Intel line, but it's cheap and *very* powerful. This is better than what i have in my gaming rig, and better than most professional machines in most businesses. It will easily run any single video card available today.

Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£56.08 @ Amazon UK)
the standard RAM for any computer. no need to go any higher unless specific needs arise.

Storage: Patriot - Torch LE 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£119.99 @ Amazon UK)
a reasonably sized SSD. a SSD is a new, modern version of the hard disk drive. there is NO comparison between a system that used a SSD and one that used a HDD, HDDs are slow beyond measure when compared to a SSD, and it has a real, tangible, very noticeable effect on everyday use when you have one or the other.
you could save £40 by buying a 256Gb but that would be a bit too small, instead 480GB is a very, very reasonable size.

Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card (£123.41 @ Amazon UK)
he wants to play, he MUST have a videocard. this card is the low end of the new generation, not great, but still reasonable. there are no real alternatives.

Case: Fractal Design - Core 2300 ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.20 @ Amazon UK)
yes, you can buy a £20 case and save, but here for $40 you get a case that isn't built out of spit and refuse. Fractal Design is one of the leading case manufacturers and here you are buying a product that is both very well designed, and that can easily last 2 or 3 generations of PC building.
cases are almost infinitely reusable.

Power Supply: Corsair - Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£42.73 @ Amazon UK)
corsair is a VERY dependable company with almost legendary customer support, and this is a adequately priced PSU that should easily last 5+ years.

Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (£11.17 @ Amazon UK)
you will need this, basically, to just install the operating system. DVDs are almost extinct. it does NOT read Bleuray, you need to buy a £40 model to do that.

Monitor: BenQ - GW2470H 23.8" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (£99.98 @ Amazon UK)
a 24 inch monitor (better and more modern and bigger than what i have) for £99 is a very, very good price. The brand is very reputable and the monitor itself should not leave anything to be desired.

Total: £747.20


You will also need: an operating system. This can be "bought" used (essentially you buy the product key) for less than the box price. I personally recommend Windows 7 as it is much, much easier to handle than Windows 10, but your choice is your own.
You will need a mouse and a keyboard, both of which can be had for £5 each, however a nice, £40 mouse is in order. Maybe wait until the next occasion to buy it.
I also suggest a mousemat, i personally recommend (with fervor) the Silent Monsters XXL https://www.amazon.co.uk/Silent-Monsters-Gaming-Office-Mouse/dp/B01FFFSORA
which for £10 is absolutely AMAZING and way better than many more expensive models. i have yet to find a mousemat of better quality.
 

DigDog

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some quick considerations on the product listed by our good friend ketchup.

that computer comes with a video card from nearly 4 years ago, that was on the low end already. it will NOT play Dark Souls in any way that is not atrociously painful.
it comes with a CPU that is so old, i'm embarassed to even write it here. it will NOT cope with any modern games, much less with City Skyline.

and so on. if you really must, grab the refurbished Lenovo here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00TG06LP8/ref=psdc_428651031_t3_B007P2F2XG

i would like to stress that the system i have listed above, despite being on the low end for cost, is a magnificent system that will amaze everyone in the household. it can do everything; it can render films, run a music studio, sync dozens of devices, run a wifi hub, all the the same time. it can easily hook up to a capable TV and to a sound system. it's NOT a cheap machine, it's all modern, excellent quality components.

my suggestion is, to not think "i need to buy my son a computer", but rather "i'm buying this house a computer". a modern PC is a hub that everyone in the house can use, not just for games, but for many activities, some of which are not immediately evident, until you *own* a computer.
When you see how incredibly easy some of these thinsg are you'll think "how did i ever manage to live without this".
 
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facetman

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Also you can look for used equipment. For your budget someone who has a 3-5 year old gaming PC that they built themselves will work for you, but not up to their needs anymore. Used monitors are all over the place. Make sure you check that all parts you buy used are working properly.
 

Craig234

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Black Friday might have some nice deals also on pre-built. Another option is to find someone in your local area who will build a system for an affordable price if you don't want to deal with it.

You might also read some PC enthusiast sites for reviews and recommendations - for example, PC gamer each month lists the parts for recommended builds including a budget build.
 
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