DoubleParadoxx
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Originally posted by: PC_Freak
I'm in upstate SC and the cheap stuff is $1.81 & 1.99 for 93.
Originally posted by: B00ne
Guys I would die for such super cheap gas - what are u complaining about.
We pay $5/gal.
There's nothing artificial about it; they simply, in other areas, pay much, much more in taxes for social services. Taxes make up a pretty small amount of the gas way pay - like 20% of a gallon, so lowering them won't affect things much. Public transportation unfortunately isn't feasible for a lot of the country, because it's so splintered, unlike the tight-knit cities in Europe (or new york, for instance). We need cars and will for a while, though 15 mpg vehicles we can sure do without.Originally posted by: MrChad
We already pay artificially low gas prices compared to the rest of the world. Maybe these price hikes will cause Americans to wake up and embrace public transportation and other alternatives to gas-guzzling cars.
Originally posted by: MrChad
We already pay artificially low gas prices compared to the rest of the world. Maybe these price hikes will cause Americans to wake up and embrace public transportation and other alternatives to gas-guzzling cars.
Originally posted by: Skoorb
There's nothing artificial about it; they simply, in other areas, pay much, much more in taxes for social services. Taxes make up a pretty small amount of the gas way pay - like 20% of a gallon, so lowering them won't affect things much. Public transportation unfortunately isn't feasible for a lot of the country, because it's so splintered, unlike the tight-knit cities in Europe (or new york, for instance). We need cars and will for a while, though 15 mpg vehicles we can sure do without.Originally posted by: MrChad
We already pay artificially low gas prices compared to the rest of the world. Maybe these price hikes will cause Americans to wake up and embrace public transportation and other alternatives to gas-guzzling cars.
Why should they? People like large, powerful cars. It's a luxury that many people in the world can't have. Partly it's because those countries aren't as rich anyway, and partly it's because they pay a lot for gas. I don't know if you _like_ where gas prices are currently, but I for one do, because I agree wholeheartedly that until people have an economic instigator for change they will not do so willingly. Pleading to people's better senses to conserve gasoline use does not work. They won't do it until it costs them a lot to continue doing what they're doing. $2+/gallon MAY make some people second guess that urban tank next time they're at the dealership.The public transportation in this country needs a serious upgrade, but you're right, even then, we will still need cars. I just wish our country would take alternative transportation more seriously.
People willingly conserve water if instructed and it doesn't cost them nearly as much.Originally posted by: Skoorb
Why should they? People like large, powerful cars. It's a luxury that many people in the world can't have. Partly it's because those countries aren't as rich anyway, and partly it's because they pay a lot for gas. I don't know if you _like_ where gas prices are currently, but I for one do, because I agree wholeheartedly that until people have an economic instigator for change they will not do so willingly. Pleading to people's better senses to conserve gasoline use does not work. They won't do it until it costs them a lot to continue doing what they're doing. $2+/gallon MAY make some people second guess that urban tank next time they're at the dealership.The public transportation in this country needs a serious upgrade, but you're right, even then, we will still need cars. I just wish our country would take alternative transportation more seriously.
To what degree? There is a certain shame that you may feel if you're beeing told to conserve water and you're hte only one on your street with your spinrklers going, but if you're told to conserve gas, nobody expects you to sell your SUV, so how do they know if you're putting 10 or 100 miles/day on to it? Encouraging people to self-lessly conserve in interests of the greater good historically has limited effects. People realize that they represent such a tiny significance to everybody else that regardless of what they do things won't really change, so they tend not to bother.Originally posted by: rh71
People willingly conserve water if instructed and it doesn't cost them nearly as much.Originally posted by: Skoorb
Why should they? People like large, powerful cars. It's a luxury that many people in the world can't have. Partly it's because those countries aren't as rich anyway, and partly it's because they pay a lot for gas. I don't know if you _like_ where gas prices are currently, but I for one do, because I agree wholeheartedly that until people have an economic instigator for change they will not do so willingly. Pleading to people's better senses to conserve gasoline use does not work. They won't do it until it costs them a lot to continue doing what they're doing. $2+/gallon MAY make some people second guess that urban tank next time they're at the dealership.The public transportation in this country needs a serious upgrade, but you're right, even then, we will still need cars. I just wish our country would take alternative transportation more seriously.
People will stop using their SUVs (if they have other cars or means of transportation) when there is a proven gas shortage. There is shame in that if you still drive one in a time of crisis. Prices alone will do nothing. $2.29/gal is what we pay for milk too. They're not charging us that much because of a shortage.Originally posted by: Skoorb
To what degree? There is a certain shame that you may feel if you're beeing told to conserve water and you're hte only one on your street with your spinrklers going, but if you're told to conserve gas, nobody expects you to sell your SUV, so how do they know if you're putting 10 or 100 miles/day on to it? Encouraging people to self-lessly conserve in interests of the greater good historically has limited effects. People realize that they represent such a tiny significance to everybody else that regardless of what they do things won't really change, so they tend not to bother.Originally posted by: rh71
People willingly conserve water if instructed and it doesn't cost them nearly as much.Originally posted by: Skoorb
Why should they? People like large, powerful cars. It's a luxury that many people in the world can't have. Partly it's because those countries aren't as rich anyway, and partly it's because they pay a lot for gas. I don't know if you _like_ where gas prices are currently, but I for one do, because I agree wholeheartedly that until people have an economic instigator for change they will not do so willingly. Pleading to people's better senses to conserve gasoline use does not work. They won't do it until it costs them a lot to continue doing what they're doing. $2+/gallon MAY make some people second guess that urban tank next time they're at the dealership.The public transportation in this country needs a serious upgrade, but you're right, even then, we will still need cars. I just wish our country would take alternative transportation more seriously.
Prices will hurt them if they go up. I pay $3.60 gallon for milk. I'll happily pay $5 and consume just as much, because I need it. People don't need gas guzzlers, so they will scale back their use. People will not personally conserve gas unless it is rationed, prices go up a lot, or they start to feel actual shame over it (which won't happen unless gov't is preaching about a real emergency of gas consumption).Originally posted by: rh71
People will stop using their SUVs (if they have other cars or means of transportation) when there is a proven gas shortage. Prices will do nothing. $2.29/gal is what we pay for milk too.
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
$1.89 for 87 octane, eastern TN
Does he know how to turn ideas into profit ?Originally posted by: desy
My buddy built a bike from a weedeater engine that gets 150 mpg and he uses to commute.
Saves gas, doesn't have to pay parking anymore, , ,