Gas Quality

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Ferzerp

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If I had done that I would have had someone complain that there is no "best quality" gas (i.e. they are all the same). And no, I did not want everyone to choose the first option as you stupidly claim, otherwise I would not have started this thread in the first place. I'm not claiming there is no difference; I'm just trying to find out if anyone knows of a scientific study proving/disproving these companies' claims.

And futhermore, I have not even revealed my position to this topic in this thread.


Yes you did, with your wording of your poll and then later on with phrases like

Herr Kutz said:
Does anyone here think buying "high quality" gas with additives from Shell, Exxon, Chevron, etc. really benefits a car at all?

You have two major tells here. You've put high quality in quotation marks, making it obvious to us that you feel that all gasoline is the same and that you're only using the phrase high quality because that is what someone who believes there is a difference in fuel would say. The other is the choice of the word really.

Let's take two sentences.

Do you think it is going to rain today?
Do you really think it is going to rain today?

In which am I asking you if you think it is going to rain, and in which am I acting like I am asking you a question, but instead am asserting that the view that it is going to rain is a silly view?

You appear to have taken offense where none was intended, which leads me to believe you weren't interested in purchasing habits and were more interested in proving yourself correct to your friend who has no qualms about paying slightly more for fuel than you may.
 

Herr Kutz

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Yes you did, with your wording of your poll and then later on with phrases like



You have two major tells here. You've put high quality in quotation marks, making it obvious to us that you feel that all gasoline is the same and that you're only using the phrase high quality because that is what someone who believes there is a difference in fuel would say. The other is the choice of the word really.

Let's take two sentences.

Do you think it is going to rain today?
Do you really think it is going to rain today?

In which am I asking you if you think it is going to rain, and in which am I acting like I am asking you a question, but instead am asserting that the view that it is going to rain is a silly view?

You appear to have taken offense where none was intended, which leads me to believe you weren't interested in purchasing habits and were more interested in proving yourself correct to your friend who has no qualms about paying slightly more for fuel than you may.

You obviously know more about me than I do. Please tell me more...
 

Subyman

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I agree with Ferzerp. The options are skewed.

I do only purchase gas from top tier establishments, if only for the quality of their pumping mechanisms and tanks. I've had a few friends get the really cheap stuff and end up having water in the gas.

My BMW mechanic says my car should run top tier fuel because of the high pressure fuel pump. The top tier fueling stations are usually equal price or only a few cents higher, so I don't see the point in not using them unless you have no option.
 

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Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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I fill up at Mobil stations usually. I also use Mobil 1 full synthetic motor oil. Mostly because that dude with the cornrows says he knows I like Mobil with my Mobil, so he got me Mobil in my mobile which helps keep the car mobile.

Typed from my mobile using tapatalk.
 

LTC8K6

Lifer
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I fill up at Mobil stations usually. I also use Mobil 1 full synthetic motor oil. Mostly because that dude with the cornrows says he knows I like Mobil with my Mobil, so he got me Mobil in my mobile which helps keep the car mobile.

Typed from my mobile using tapatalk.

 

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Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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lol xzibit meme

Yo dawg we heard you like to derive so we put a calculus book in yo glove compartment so you can derive while you drive.
And you better use mobil 1 or I'ma pimp slap yo ride!
 
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Mxylplyx

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Mar 21, 2007
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Suppliers fill their trucks with the exact same gas coming from the exact same pipelines, and then simply drop in additives.
 

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Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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I am sure fuel cleanliness is largely standardized. I can't believe some people think just because its fractions of a dollar cheaper, that it must be terrible. I mean the price is within 2-3%, how shitty could this cheaper fuel be?

I've never had a problem running any brand of fuel in my Honda. I've only once had it where my car was pinging on cheap premium fuel from a no name station. But that was a premium using vehicle. I would say that fuel did not meet the octane requirements exactly.

HEHEHe hahahahahahahaaaa
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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Usually it's Country Fair gas, because there's one that's right on the way home from work.
Though if I build up a bunch of points at the grocery store, I'll go to the chain they're affiliated with, and maybe get 60 cents off per gallon.
 

HarryLui

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Aug 31, 2001
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I bought a car non running for 3 years. The gas tank was full of brown honey like goo. It was all over the fuel pump, fuel filter, and bottom of the tank. The car was parked due to head gasket, so it was running when it parked.

I open up another car's gas tank, thinking I'd find the same thing. This is my own car, I always used Chevron gas in it. It was parked for 4 years, no stabilizer was added to the gas. To my surprise, there was NOTHING on the bottom of the fuel tank.
 

saratoga172

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Nov 10, 2009
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Reading fail. His honda and premium car are two different cars. No problem in the honda. One problem in the other car that takes premium.

Having said that I usually get whatever is cheaper. If I feel my car got crap mileage when it shouldn't have our the gas felt bad I'll just avoid the station in the future.
 

Bignate603

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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Holiday went top tier, that is where I go now

I would like to point out that manufacturers are starting to work with top tier suppliers to tune their engines to that blend of fuel, so you may find not only an octane recommendation in your manual, but a supplier recommendation as well.

Quiktrip is top tier, in my area they're the cheapest, and the station is about 1/4 mile from my house. I don't really have to compromise on quality, cost, or convenience.

I only avoid Arco. Not because of the gas, but it's owned by BP.
Personal thing, really.

I avoid the Arcos near me because they charge you $3 to pay with a card.
 
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I've had a few issues in bike with cheap gas, and have noticed more poor gas mileage with cheap no name gas in my car, so yeah
 

LTC8K6

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TOP TIER Gasoline Retailers:

76 Stations
Chevron Canada
Aloha Petroleum
Esso
Chevron
PetroCanada
Conoco
Shell Canada
CountryMark
Sunoco Canada
Entec Stations
Exxon
Holiday Station stores, Inc.
Kwik Trip / Kwik Star
MFA Oil Co.
Mileage Stations
Mobil
Phillips 66
Quik Trip
Rebel Oil
Road Ranger
Severson Oil
Shell
Texaco
The Somerset Refinery, Inc.
Tri-Par Oil Co.
U.S. Oil

TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline is the premier standard for gasoline performance. Six of the world's top automakers, BMW, General Motors, Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen and Audi recognize that the current EPA minimum detergent requirements do not go far enough to ensure optimal engine performance.

Since the minimum additive performance standards were first established by EPA in 1995, most gasoline marketers have actually reduced the concentration level of detergent additive in their gasoline by up to 50%. As a result, the ability of a vehicle to maintain stringent Tier 2 emission standards have been hampered, leading to engine deposits which can have a big impact on in-use emissions and driver satisfaction.

These automakers have raised the bar. TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline help drivers avoid lower quality gasoline which can leave deposits on critical engine parts, which reduces engine performance. That's something both drivers and automakers want to avoid.
 
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KentState

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This poll is stupid, how about an option for the place that's convenient on the way home. I don't really care about price or perceived quality. I care about being able to get it, not have to cross against 4 lanes of traffic to get out and not being hassled by a bum when pumping gas.
 

alkalinetaupehat

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I've noticed that my '89 Supra runs better with Chevron/Shell/Mobil fuel than the stuff on base. There's probably a reason related to the fact the car is 23 years old, but the difference is there regardless.
 

MDE

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Whatever's cheapest. Usually ends up being a particular Shell station not quite on my way home from work. I just avoid Mobil, for some reason every time I fill up there my mileage sucks.
 

SparkyJJO

Lifer
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My previous car ran best and got the best mpg on BP gas.
My current SUV doesn't give a crap what I put in it
 

TakeNoPrisoners

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I have an uncle who delivers gas. All the gas comes out of the same line for all the vendors. The only difference is the additives, he presses a button for wichever vendor he is delivering for.

Therefore there is no reason to buy expensive gas.
 

RU482

Lifer
Apr 9, 2000
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I like Road Ranger gas. Everytime I go there, I giggle and a voice in my head says Rump Ranger
 

Doppel

Lifer
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I have an uncle who delivers gas. All the gas comes out of the same line for all the vendors. The only difference is the additives, he presses a button for wichever vendor he is delivering for.

Therefore there is no reason to buy expensive gas.
You mean paying an extra $2.50 a tank for some stupid additive from company A is a waste of money? :sneaky:
 
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