Gas Thread:8-22-07 Gas stations owners file lawsuit alleging price fixing by Saudi owned Refiners in U.S.

[Strk]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
EPA Auto Fuel Economy Ratings Plummet With New 2008 Guidelines

Hybrids take the biggest hit with the new 2008 model year EPA changes. The Toyota Prius, Toyota Camry Hybrid and Honda Civic Hybrid drop from 60/51 (city/highway), 40/38 and 49/55 to 48/45, 33/34 and 40/45 respectively. That's a pretty tough pill to swallow for potential hybrid buyers.

Any hybrids on the market that you can plug into a wall outlet to charge rather than charging it with the engine?

I think it's funny how they say "that's a pretty tough pill to swallow." There was nothing changed on those cars to get worse mileage. The EPA testing was changed to better reflect real world driving. They're getting the same mileage they were getting before.

 

[TheSlamma]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
EPA Auto Fuel Economy Ratings Plummet With New 2008 Guidelines

Hybrids take the biggest hit with the new 2008 model year EPA changes. The Toyota Prius, Toyota Camry Hybrid and Honda Civic Hybrid drop from 60/51 (city/highway), 40/38 and 49/55 to 48/45, 33/34 and 40/45 respectively. That's a pretty tough pill to swallow for potential hybrid buyers.

Any hybrids on the market that you can plug into a wall outlet to charge rather than charging it with the engine?

I think it's funny how they say "that's a pretty tough pill to swallow." There was nothing changed on those cars to get worse mileage. The EPA testing was changed to better reflect real world driving. They're getting the same mileage they were getting before.

I was gonna say... OMG the Prius dropped to 48 city!! OMFG what to do... meanwhile the Corolla and Civic are in the mid TWENTIES. And all the fancy SUV's like the Mazda CX-7 or whatever is 16.... yah those poor Hybrids got r4p3d

 

[dmcowen674]

Gasoline prices soared nearly 13 cents a gallon on average nationwide in the past two weeks as the price of crude oil rose.

 

[BoomerD]

Steadily climbing here too...

 

[ericlp]

well, someone has to get rich again. They have done it hundreds of times what makes you think they will change now? feel sorry for the people still buying V8's and huge gas guzzlers thinking the price will be always be in the 3.00 range... Just bought a new CRV. Get's 31+MPG HYW... Gotta love it!

 

[Schadenfroh]

Get's 31+MPG HYW... Gotta love it!

before or after the new 2008 EPA guidelines?

 

[GoPackGo]

Well in the last few weeks gas has went from $1.89 to $2.45 WOOT!

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Well in the last few weeks gas has went from $1.89 to $2.45 WOOT!

That can't be according to the resident Republican Oil Baron Bush Supporters.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: ericlp
well, someone has to get rich again. They have done it hundreds of times what makes you think they will change now? feel sorry for the people still buying V8's and huge gas guzzlers thinking the price will be always be in the 3.00 range... Just bought a new CRV. Get's 31+MPG HYW... Gotta love it!

You don't have to feel sorry for me. I don't have a problem with spending an extra $8/month on gas (16 gallons x .13 X 4 weeks). Geesh people, give it a fricken rest.

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Well in the last few weeks gas has went from $1.89 to $2.45 WOOT!

That can't be according to the resident Republican Oil Baron Bush Supporters.

And the whole increase hasn't even hit yet. Given that spot (cash) prices closed at $1.85 today, that would push the pump prices (at least here in PA) to at least $2.60 if the stations don't eat any of the cost.

 

[Strk]

After receiving my heating bill for February, I'm not really surprised. I'm in the region that is the biggest consumer of heating oil, although I use natural gas. My usage went from 72 therms last month to 137 therms this month. Clearly there was a massive demand increase due to winter temperatures actually showing up in the northeast.

 

[jlbenedict]

Up .07 today.. nice :disgust:

 

[ProfJohn]

I just drove from VA to FL, 800 miles, and the most I paid for gas was in Florida at $2.48 a gallon. Now I am not a math professor, but I believe $2.48 is about half of the $5 Dave has been talking about for six months.

BTW the cheapest was $2.25. And it is certainly up from last week, about 10-20 cents here in Fl since when I last bought gas two weeks ago.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Think we'll see $3.50 this summer and if so, will it put a further damper on SUV sales?

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Think we'll see $3.50 this summer and if so, will it put a further damper on SUV sales?

Depends on alot of things. But to the SUV question...alot of what Ford, GM and DCX are doing is going away from the SUVs. Tho with the new fuel economy ratings it's going to be interesting how ALL the car companies are going to respond.

 

[JD50]

Well Dave, it looks like your heroes are gonna help you out here in Maryland with your "Drive for 5" prediction.

Democrats go for higher gas prices

I just found another article on this, its actually a %4 tax on gas prices, meaning that Maryland Democrats get more of our money the higher the price of gas. Dave, I thought it was the evil neocons that were trying to raise the price of gas??

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[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: JD50
Well Dave, it looks like your heroes are gonna help you out here in Maryland with your "Drive for 5" prediction.

Democrats go for higher gas prices

I just found another article on this, its actually a %4 tax on gas prices, meaning that Maryland Democrats get more of our money the higher the price of gas. Dave, I thought it was the evil neocons that were trying to raise the price of gas??

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Excellent to see they have learned well from your Republican heroes. :thumbsup:

 

[tomywishbone]

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, lower than $2.89 per gallon for regular, in Los Angeles County. I should have learned to ride a bicycle...

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JD50
Well Dave, it looks like your heroes are gonna help you out here in Maryland with your "Drive for 5" prediction.

Democrats go for higher gas prices

I just found another article on this, its actually a %4 tax on gas prices, meaning that Maryland Democrats get more of our money the higher the price of gas. Dave, I thought it was the evil neocons that were trying to raise the price of gas??

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Excellent to see they have learned well from your Republican heroes. :thumbsup:

Glad to see that you are in favor of higher gas prices. :thumbsup:

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JD50
Well Dave, it looks like your heroes are gonna help you out here in Maryland with your "Drive for 5" prediction.

Democrats go for higher gas prices

I just found another article on this, its actually a %4 tax on gas prices, meaning that Maryland Democrats get more of our money the higher the price of gas. Dave, I thought it was the evil neocons that were trying to raise the price of gas??

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Excellent to see they have learned well from your Republican heroes. :thumbsup:

Glad to see that you are in favor of higher gas prices. :thumbsup:

Hell yeah, when enough peons can't afford to drive anymore they will want to kick the rich and politicians butts from here to china.

Hope you speak chinese :laugh:

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: tomywishbone
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, lower than $2.89 per gallon for regular, in Los Angeles County. I should have learned to ride a bicycle...

We're 30 cents behind you, paid $2.59 here today. 20 cent jump this week.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JD50
Well Dave, it looks like your heroes are gonna help you out here in Maryland with your "Drive for 5" prediction.

Democrats go for higher gas prices

I just found another article on this, its actually a %4 tax on gas prices, meaning that Maryland Democrats get more of our money the higher the price of gas. Dave, I thought it was the evil neocons that were trying to raise the price of gas??

Text

Excellent to see they have learned well from your Republican heroes. :thumbsup:

Glad to see that you are in favor of higher gas prices. :thumbsup:

Hell yeah, when enough peons can't afford to drive anymore they will want to kick the rich and politicians butts from here to china.

Hope you speak chinese :laugh:

Ni Hao?

I played some World of Warcraft for a while, so I've picked up a little bit.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: tomywishbone
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, lower than $2.89 per gallon for regular, in Los Angeles County. I should have learned to ride a bicycle...

We're 30 cents behind you, paid $2.59 here today. 20 cent jump this week.

I'm only up to about 2.29 here today, but if the Dems have their way we'll be up another 4 percent.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: tomywishbone
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, lower than $2.89 per gallon for regular, in Los Angeles County. I should have learned to ride a bicycle...

We're 30 cents behind you, paid $2.59 here today. 20 cent jump this week.

I'm only up to about 2.29 here today, but if the Dems have their way we'll be up another 4 percent.

Good, looks like you've been getting away with paying a lot less than the rest of us.

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: tomywishbone
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, lower than $2.89 per gallon for regular, in Los Angeles County. I should have learned to ride a bicycle...

We're 30 cents behind you, paid $2.59 here today. 20 cent jump this week.

I'm only up to about 2.29 here today, but if the Dems have their way we'll be up another 4 percent.

Ah yes...when the oil companies with the Republicans blessing were merrily raking it in you didn't have a problem with it, now ONE Democrat wants to raise gas taxes and you want to burn a liberal in effigy.

Like someone else said-call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE