Gay DNA found

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wchou

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There is nothing wrong with gays, this is a natural part of life just accept them with an open arm
As it is none of our business what other sexual preference are
Gays cannot have children and so why force them to be straight just so they can be most people?
Leave them alone and they will be happy as they are now

 

slurmsmackenzie

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Originally posted by: wchou
There is nothing wrong with gays, this is a natural part of life just accept them with an open arm
As it is none of our business what other sexual preference are
Gays cannot have children and so why force them to be straight just so they can be most people?
Leave them alone and they will be happy as they are now

you see.... you assume the main point of discussion "this is a natural part of life....".
don't assume i hate gays, but just as i'm not gonna stand on joe smoker's lawn and tell him that his addiction is a sin, neither am i gonna hassle a gay person for what they choose. that doesn't mean i condone it. and THAT doesn't mean you have to give a sh!t what i think....
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: conjur
Sounds like the attitude of the stereotypical ignorant southern redneck. "Ima gonna kick yer ass, i love you-boy!"


:roll:

Looks like you're right on the mark as usual Conjur, considering I was born and raised in uber liberal mASSachusetts, went to one of the most liberal colleges here, my wife is from CT and I did a brief stint in DC/Northern VA (is that where I might get the southern redneck from?) I guess I am the epitome of both southern, redneck and what the hell...ignorant.

try again conjur, you bigot...."ignorant southern"....nice hypocricy... ass
 

Riprorin

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Also of concern is that homosexuality has been promoted and "normalized" by the media without mention of statistics and scientific facts . Many wonder where this fictional, sympathetic viewpoint originates. Some feel the media has embraced homosexuality because of the theory that it is a genetically inherited condition and is not a matter of choice. This common misperception defies both logic and science. This fictional "gay gene" would have been out bredlong ago due to the fact that homosexuals hardly ever have children of their own. Also, this gene would be recessive by definition because t he homosexual lifestyle is too dangerous to be considered biologically beneficial . Yet instead, the homosexual population has not been stagnant or diminishing, but has rather grown rapidly.

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Good points that I hadn't thought of.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Also of concern is that homosexuality has been promoted and "normalized" by the media without mention of statistics and scientific facts . Many wonder where this fictional, sympathetic viewpoint originates. Some feel the media has embraced homosexuality because of the theory that it is a genetically inherited condition and is not a matter of choice. This common misperception defies both logic and science. This fictional "gay gene" would have been out bredlong ago due to the fact that homosexuals hardly ever have children of their own. Also, this gene would be recessive by definition because t he homosexual lifestyle is too dangerous to be considered biologically beneficial . Yet instead, the homosexual population has not been stagnant or diminishing, but has rather grown rapidly.

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Good points that I hadn't thought of.
There is no single gay gene, but there are some that increase the likelihood of gayness. As I understand it, the same genes increase fertility in women, and therefore are unlikely to be bred out. That isn't the only plausible explanation but it seems to have some support.

The gene could easily be X-linked, and dominance would then not be an issue. Kind of like baldness.
 

abj13

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
This fictional "gay gene" would have been out bredlong ago due to the fact that homosexuals hardly ever have children of their own.

Ah the same old, since its on the internet it must be true! Articles like this prey on people's ignorance. Then people automatically assume its true, and post it only to be shown again and again, they have no clue about the bias within the "article."

The truth is that their simple analysis is wrong. First one would have to assume evolution is correct. With some of the posts here, I don't there's a hefty population that would deny evolution right away.

Second, one would have to assume that genetic diseases that inhibit the fertility of the disease carriers would have been weeded out of the population. However, this assumes a sufficient time span has enabled the population to weed out the unfavorable alleles. Sadly, evidence does not exist that inherited genetic diseases have disappeared. Duchenne muscular dystrophy and Osteogenesis Imperfecta are two diseases that basically harm the human being before the ability to reproduce. The presence of these diseases suggests that genetic diseases that affect reproduction have not been eliminated by evolution.

Thirdly, there is no evidence that the genetic basis for homosexuality is simple Mendalian genetics, similar to the diseases above. In fact, a cognitive phenotype would have a very complex basis in genetics and environment. One of the major roles that could be involved in homosexuality is the hormonal levels in the mother. Major changes can affect the fetus in-uteri, an aspect that would be very diffcult to study.

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Also, this gene would be recessive by definition because t he homosexual lifestyle is too dangerous to be considered biologically beneficial .

More playing on people's ignorance of science. Its not Mendilian genetics. If that were the case, Autosomal Dominant diseases would never be seen, yet Familial Adenomatous Polyposis is a very harmful disease, especially in the one in a billion chance it couples with HNPCC.

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Yet instead, the homosexual population has not been stagnant or diminishing, but has rather grown rapidly.

That's assuming that all of the homosexual people were "out of the closet" then and now. Yet the hatred shown by people suggests that there will be still those scared into remaining silent. Its only that more people have become tolerant of people today, allowing more people to address their biological instincts.

Of course, this article leaves out two major keys of genetics, as I've said, the hormonal levels of the mother, and methylation/imprinting. But we all know that pushing BS on oblivious people works, then getting them to pass it off as "truth."
 

CellarDoor

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Originally posted by: abj13
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Also, this gene would be recessive by definition because t he homosexual lifestyle is too dangerous to be considered biologically beneficial .

More playing on people's ignorance of science. Its not Mendilian genetics. If that were the case, Autosomal Dominant diseases would never be seen, yet Familial Adenomatous Polyposis is a very harmful disease, especially in the one in a billion chance it couples with HNPCC.

You seem to be knowledgable about genetics...I seem to recall hearing that the dominant gene is to have 6 fingers and 6 toes on each hand/foot. Is that correct?
 

rickn

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oh geez, I clicked on this thread and thought for sure it was about the new summer fashion lineup from William Hung
 

ahurtt

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: alchemize
Well that's good news. Now a cure can be found.

I agree, we do need to fix heterosexual men, & now we will finally be able to do something about their aggression, macho posturing, tendency to start wars, and of course their poor dress sense.

Don't forget their tendency to spread AIDS! :roll: :disgust:
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: alchemize
Well that's good news. Now a cure can be found.

I agree, we do need to fix heterosexual men, & now we will finally be able to do something about their aggression, macho posturing, tendency to start wars, and of course their poor dress sense.

Don't forget their tendency to spread AIDS! :roll: :disgust:

The HIV epidemic is a heterosexual epidemic in Africa, for sure, but it's probably not reasonable to blame the heterosexual men alone, let's not forget the heterosexual women they are having sex with.
 

Pandaren

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Rip won't answer the question. He never does, because he is a troll and a coward. I don't think the gay population has grown. It's just that gay people are fed up with having to be ashamed of something they have no control over and don't want to hide or live a lie anymore.

Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Riprorin
The homosexual population has not been stagnant or diminishing, but has rather grown rapidly.
Why are you so afraid of the Gays???
Self-loathing.

 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: impeachbush
I bet there's a lot of gay DNA on and around Rip's computer, mouse and keyboard!


Sorry, couldn't resist.

Let's hope there's none in his mouth, throat, stomach..

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Pandaren
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Riprorin
The homosexual population has not been stagnant or diminishing, but has rather grown rapidly.
Why are you so afraid of the Gays???
Self-loathing.
Rip won't answer the question. He never does, because he is a troll and a coward. I don't think the gay population has grown. It's just that gay people are fed up with having to be ashamed of something they have no control over and don't want to hide or live a lie anymore.
Agreed. From the studies I've read, only about 2 - 2.5% of the population is gay. I'd be willing to bet more than 2 - 2.5% of the population are radical religious extremists. *They* are the ones to fear.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Pandaren
Rip won't answer the question. He never does, because he is a troll and a coward. I don't think the gay population has grown. It's just that gay people are fed up with having to be ashamed of something they have no control over and don't want to hide or live a lie anymore.

It's a choice.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Pandaren
gay people are fed up with having to be ashamed of something they have no control over and don't want to hide or live a lie anymore.

It's a choice.

how could you possibly know?
 

Legend

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This fictional "gay gene" would have been out bredlong ago due to the fact that homosexuals hardly ever have children of their own.

I don't have an opinion on its existance, but I don't see how you can logically conclude that.

How many times do you have to have sex with a woman to have a baby? Once. You're looking at it black and white, but sexuality has a large grey scale too -- you know that bisexual thing. Bisexuals/Gays only need to have straight sex once, and then they be gay the rest of their life. There's likely large amounts of bisexuals out there that polarize themselves to being straight for social acceptance or the desire to have a biological family.
 

Delta52

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It's a choice, not genetic. People always try to come up with excuses for being gay or born "addicted to drinking" and thus pass the blame off of themselves. This means they can say "It's not my fault I'm drinking, It's in my genes!", which makes it a lot eaiser to take that first drink of the night. This shows a lack of responsibility in people as well as a lack of disipline from their parents. You will always have a choice wether you take a swig of beer, and you will always have a choice of being gay.
 

Legend

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I don't understand how people can call it a choice without having homosexual desires. I can't say it's one way or another as I've had no such desires, but unless you've personally struggled with it and found it as a choice I don't see how you can associate it with drinking or some other immoral act.
 
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