Gay marriage ban upheld

[Texashiker]

Looks like we are heading to the supreme court on this issue.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/06/federal-appeals-court-upholds-gay-marriage-bans/

DEVELOPING: A federal appeals court in Cincinnati has upheld anti-gay marriage laws in four states, breaking ranks with other courts that have considered the issue and setting up the prospect of Supreme Court review.

Supreme court needs to decide people who decide to live outside socially accepted norms should not be catered to.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Chances are the SCOTUS will rule that the SSM bans are unconstitutional and you will need massive quantities of Boudreaux Butt Paste to ease the severe butt chapping that you will experience when they make that decision.

 

[desy]

Supreme court needs to decide people who decide to live outside socially accepted norms should not be catered to.[/QUOTE]

Used to be slavery was a socially accepted norm
Used to be women couldn't vote, socially accepted norm
Japanese camp internment

and on and on

 

[brandonb]

Chances are the SCOTUS will rule that the SSM bans are unconstitutional and you will need massive quantities of Boudreaux Butt Paste to ease the severe butt chapping that you will experience when they make that decision.

As I lean conservative, I'm just going to say this is the most likely thing that will happen.

I'm not a fan of LGBT people in general (they seem odd to me) and don't like seeing it/hearing about it daily from news websites like www.cnn.com. But at some point the conservative side of me says there isn't a reason why these people shouldn't be allowed to be married. It does go against the freedom our founding fathers envisioned. I'd rather have that freedom there even if I don't particularly like it.

On the flip side, I hope liberals also feel the same way about gun rights, etc. Which of course is already in our constitution, so really it's not on the same peg of the totem pole, but I think the spirit of freedom should encompass all things.

 

[us3rnotfound]

"Gay marriage should be between a man and a woman!"

 

[Mandres]

Isn't the right answer that marriage is a church/social issue and really shouldn't be the business of the government at all? Why do married people enjoy benefits that single people do not?

Get government out of the bedroom completely.

 

[alzan]

Looks like we are heading to the supreme court on this issue.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/06/federal-appeals-court-upholds-gay-marriage-bans/

Supreme court needs to decide people who decide to live outside socially accepted norms should not be catered to.

So if the USSC takes this case and decides that the gay marriage bans are unconstitutional are you going to go back to your "The SC often makes bad decisions" argument?

 

[fskimospy]

Isn't the right answer that marriage is a church/social issue and really shouldn't be the business of the government at all? Why do married people enjoy benefits that single people do not?

Get government out of the bedroom completely.

That would have wide-ranging implications across all sorts of areas of society that you may not have thought about. Hospital visitation, inheritance law, etc.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Looks like we are heading to the supreme court on this issue.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/06/federal-appeals-court-upholds-gay-marriage-bans/



Supreme court needs to decide people who decide to live outside socially accepted norms should not be catered to.

And when they come for you there will be no one left to object. Karma?

 

[infoiltrator]

Marriage confers social and economic benefits.
Constitution states all men (now and all women) are "created equal", and have the right to "pursuit of happiness."
Pesky details.

 

[Jaepheth]

XKCD :

Mouse-over text: People often say that same-sex marriage now is like interracial marriage in the 60s. But in terms of public opinion, same-sex marriage now is like interracial marriage in the 90s, when it had already been legal nationwide for 30 years.

The "socially accepted norm" is already to legalize

 

[fskimospy]

XKCD :

Mouse-over text: People often say that same-sex marriage now is like interracial marriage in the 60s. But in terms of public opinion, same-sex marriage now is like interracial marriage in the 90s, when it had already been legal nationwide for 30 years.

The "socially accepted norm" is already to legalize

I always think it's funny how people think that racism is a relic of the past when interracial marriage was only approved of by a majority of Americans in nineteen fucking ninety five.

 

[First]

XKCD :

Mouse-over text: People often say that same-sex marriage now is like interracial marriage in the 60s. But in terms of public opinion, same-sex marriage now is like interracial marriage in the 90s, when it had already been legal nationwide for 30 years.

The "socially accepted norm" is already to legalize

Interesting. Link to polls? Not that I don't believe it, but still.

 

[BoberFett]

Supreme court needs to decide people who decide to live outside socially accepted norms should not be catered to.

Catered to? How is being treated the same being catered to?

You're outside the norm, perhaps we should start treating you differently.

 

[shira]

Looks like we are heading to the supreme court on this issue.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/06/federal-appeals-court-upholds-gay-marriage-bans/



Supreme court needs to decide people who decide to live outside socially accepted norms should not be catered to.

And since the "socially accepted norm" is obviously what all of the the other federal courts have defined, you are correct that we should no longer cater to the bigotry of those who live in Ohio, Michigan, Kentucky and Tennessee.

 

[Texashiker]

Catered to? How is being treated the same being catered to?

That is a good question and I am glad you asked.

One example, gay men make up 2% of the population, but make up 52% of hiv cases.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...ent-of-Population-But-52-Percent-of-HIV-Cases

If this was any other demographic the CDC would be freaking out. Congress would be acting to pass stricter laws to prevent the spread of disease.

If 52% of E. Coli came from a certain meat processing plant, chances are the plant would be shut down.

If 52% of a certain town developed a rare cancer, holy hell the EPA would be acting.

Yet we are supposed to tolerate a certain demographic making up the majority of spreading an incurable disease?

Sex does not equal marriage, but they share the same behavior, which is male on male sex.

 

[CLite]

Of all the hot-button issues meant to draw out partisan voters SSM has to be the most confusing to me. I typically can understand and empathize with people that hold opposite views of me on a whole range of issues. However, SSM opposition looks to me like a bunch of adults behaving like children avoiding kudies on a playground.

 

[Texashiker]

However, SSM opposition looks to me like a bunch of adults behaving like children avoiding kudies on a playground.

The government regulates farms that sell raw milk more than the transmission of hiv.

I want to drink raw milk, so what? But yet the government regulates it.

Someone wants to go around having unprotected sex transmitting HIV, the government has a hands off approach.

 

[Victorian Gray]

That is a good question and I am glad you asked.

One example, gay men make up 2% of the population, but make up 52% of hiv cases.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...ent-of-Population-But-52-Percent-of-HIV-Cases

If this was any other demographic the CDC would be freaking out. Congress would be acting to pass stricter laws to prevent the spread of disease.

If 52% of E. Coli came from a certain meat processing plant, chances are the plant would be shut down.

If 52% of a certain town developed a rare cancer, holy hell the EPA would be acting.

Yet we are supposed to tolerate a certain demographic making up the majority of spreading an incurable disease?

Sex does not equal marriage, but they share the same behavior, which is male on male sex.

"Worldwide, more than 80 percent of all adult HIV infections have resulted from heterosexual intercourse"

http://aids.about.com/od/dataandstatistics/a/world_facts.htm

 

[Texashiker]

Worldwide, more than 80 percent of all adult HIV infections have resulted from heterosexual intercourse

We are not talking about the world, now are we?

 

[brycejones]

I hope TH protects himself while doing tug jobs and experiencing the salty spray.

 

[sportage]

The ruling was strange indeed.
It makes me wonder what goes on behind the scene?
A phone call from some right wing powerhouse to this judge?
Cash transaction under the table?
Some klan like of meeting to obstruct marriage equality progress?

The ruling makes absolutely no sense nor logic and most of all total disregard of law and constitution.
This is a back-door deal plain and simple, and stinks to high heaven.
So I have to wonder, who made the phone call to this judge?

And you also have to wonder what all the other justices sitting on the other circuit courts must feel about the legal justification with this ruling?
This returns us back to the injustice witnessed during the 1960's pre-civil rights era.
When courts and judges ruled by ideology, mob rule, and not by law.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I hope TH protects himself while doing tug jobs and experiencing the salty spray.

He's too stupid to get a tug boat job so he's here to troll us.

 

[CLite]

The government regulates farms that sell raw milk more than the transmission of hiv.

I want to drink raw milk, so what? But yet the government regulates it.

Someone wants to go around having unprotected sex transmitting HIV, the government has a hands off approach.

Entertaining as always.

 

[BoberFett]

That is a good question and I am glad you asked.

One example, gay men make up 2% of the population, but make up 52% of hiv cases.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...ent-of-Population-But-52-Percent-of-HIV-Cases

If this was any other demographic the CDC would be freaking out. Congress would be acting to pass stricter laws to prevent the spread of disease.

If 52% of E. Coli came from a certain meat processing plant, chances are the plant would be shut down.

If 52% of a certain town developed a rare cancer, holy hell the EPA would be acting.

Yet we are supposed to tolerate a certain demographic making up the majority of spreading an incurable disease?

Sex does not equal marriage, but they share the same behavior, which is male on male sex.

What does any of that have to do with marriage? Presumably in a marriage there will be less spread of disease.