Gay Prop 8 protestors attack Christian Cross.

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
And what . Do ya need a pic. GAys exist solely by accident . That can't breed . That can't sustain life without feeding off others. Gays are alsorts of suckers. Blood sucker being one of the biggest.

The word of God teaches us that there is a special place reserved for people who judge others like you are doing.

Did God take the week off and give any new responibility to you that we are unaware of? I missed that email.

Don't be surprised when your afterlife is not what you are expecting it to be. You couldn't be more lost if you tried.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Deeko

Who were the "tollerant" ones again?

I really hate when people pull crap like this.

Listen, obviously this act is despicable, but if you're trying to insinuate that the gays are the intolerant ones treading on the rights of the heterosexual family or something stupid like that....just GTFO.

You seem to have missed the point completly. Gay's are protesting and calling the Mormon church intolerant, but when someone brings out a Christian cross to counter-protest, the gays show how tolerant they really are. Its just another case of hypocracy that you and others here don't seem to understand.

And you're missing the difference between a few isolated jackasses at a protest (which will always exist) and a structured, large scale effort, planned in advance by a major group.

Oh, somehow I don't think he so much missed the difference, as much as he just doesn't care to be intellectually honest about this topic.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Deeko

Who were the "tollerant" ones again?

I really hate when people pull crap like this.

Listen, obviously this act is despicable, but if you're trying to insinuate that the gays are the intolerant ones treading on the rights of the heterosexual family or something stupid like that....just GTFO.

You seem to have missed the point completly. Gay's are protesting and calling the Mormon church intolerant, but when someone brings out a Christian cross to counter-protest, the gays show how tolerant they really are. Its just another case of hypocracy that you and others here don't seem to understand.

So you I take it do understand?? hmmmm

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Deeko

Who were the "tollerant" ones again?

I really hate when people pull crap like this.

Listen, obviously this act is despicable, but if you're trying to insinuate that the gays are the intolerant ones treading on the rights of the heterosexual family or something stupid like that....just GTFO.

You seem to have missed the point completly. Gay's are protesting and calling the Mormon church intolerant, but when someone brings out a Christian cross to counter-protest, the gays show how tolerant they really are. Its just another case of hypocracy that you and others here don't seem to understand.

sonofabitch.. wow.. GET your religion off my reeses peanut butter cup.. EH??

The Mormon church (CHURCH) is using its money and influence to DENY US Citizens EQUAL RIGHTS

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Deeko

Who were the "tollerant" ones again?

I really hate when people pull crap like this.

Listen, obviously this act is despicable, but if you're trying to insinuate that the gays are the intolerant ones treading on the rights of the heterosexual family or something stupid like that....just GTFO.

You seem to have missed the point completly. Gay's are protesting and calling the Mormon church intolerant, but when someone brings out a Christian cross to counter-protest, the gays show how tolerant they really are. Its just another case of hypocracy that you and others here don't seem to understand.

And you're missing the difference between a few isolated jackasses at a protest (which will always exist) and a structured, large scale effort, planned in advance by a major group.

Oh, somehow I don't think he so much missed the difference, as much as he just doesn't care to be intellectually honest about this topic.

Winner on row 11.. BINGO :thumbsup:

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
How is marriage a "right" when civil unions do the same thing?

Why don't we just get rid of marriage as an institution entirely. Maybe that'll shut everyone up.

1. civil unions are not the exact same thing, in name or in status, locally or federally, and separate but equal = inequal. Also, civil unions are only permitted in a couple of states, so the root problem remains almost everywhere.

2. that'd be fine because then everyone would be treated equally, which is what this whole thing is about.

Its pretty simple, the Fed and State Govts should only recognize civil unions and not marriages. Leave the term marriage to the church, and the govt uses civil unions. The issue is all about semantics.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
How is marriage a "right" when civil unions do the same thing?

Why don't we just get rid of marriage as an institution entirely. Maybe that'll shut everyone up.

1. civil unions are not the exact same thing, in name or in status, locally or federally, and separate but equal = inequal. Also, civil unions are only permitted in a couple of states, so the root problem remains almost everywhere.

2. that'd be fine because then everyone would be treated equally, which is what this whole thing is about.

Its pretty simple, the Fed and State Govts should only recognize civil unions and not marriages. Leave the term marriage to the church, and the govt uses civil unions. The issue is all about semantics.

What it is also about is religious intolerance by religious people JUDGing Gods Children .. hehe

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Deeko

Who were the "tollerant" ones again?

I really hate when people pull crap like this.

Listen, obviously this act is despicable, but if you're trying to insinuate that the gays are the intolerant ones treading on the rights of the heterosexual family or something stupid like that....just GTFO.

You seem to have missed the point completly. Gay's are protesting and calling the Mormon church intolerant, but when someone brings out a Christian cross to counter-protest, the gays show how tolerant they really are. Its just another case of hypocracy that you and others here don't seem to understand.

No, I get your point entirely, you're the one missing the point. There are extremists in all groups - so yes, there are "intolerant" gays. However, the simple act of voting for prop 8, which many many people did, was undeniably intolerant. ALL of them are intolerant, a small group of extremists in the against crowd act out. Your post insinuates that the gays as a group are the intolerant ones. You are mistaken.

 

[Lemon law]

If we want to ask who started the fight, its the Mormons, coming in out of left field, tipping the balance, and as a result prop 8 passed. And from the viewpoints of the gays, the Mormons shit on their constitutional rights, sticking their nose into matters that are none of their business, and that is rude, crude, and socially unacceptable.

From the point of view of some Mormons, they advanced their religions and the morality of the larger country, and have every right to feel vindicated by God.

And in that 180 difference in viewpoints, leaves much room for outright mutual hostility that almost certainly will go beyond mere polite and high minded debate.

And I certainly support and endorse the rights of gays and Lesbian to express their displeasure with economic boycotts of both the Catholic and Mormon churches. And as a decidedly heterosexual male
male married to a female, even if I am 2000 miles away, I will join their economic boycott of any and all organizations that supported prop 8. And although I will not use violent means, I will not hesitate to give any of the members of these organizations a heaping dose of my scorn, because I despise small minded puritans who go way way way out of their way to make other people miserable. They are nothing but a set of bullies that wear funny hats, and any notion that they understand anything about the nature of God is totally discredited by their very actions.

And while I do not endorse violence, there is something understandably human about it, its the Mormons and the Catholics who threw the initial sucker punch, and they should not be so incredibly naive and not to expect some rather emotional retaliations.

Its my hope that some of these prop 8 supporters learn a damn lesson, mind your own business, mind your own business, or you will suffer the fate of bullies, and harvest the ridicule you deserve.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: ultra laser

Gays aren't tolerant. Like all humans, they just want power for their group.

How tolerant are they supposed to be when they're denied the same legal rights and privileges granted to other American citizens?

How tolerant would you be if it were your rights? :Q

HEY - no one is denying them any rights or privileges that other citizens have!

If a gay man wants to marry a lesbian, he can do so just the same as any man can marry any woman. Flipped around, no straight man can marry another straight man.

Seems to me the rules, rights, and privileges apply equally to all people. :roll:

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
If we want to ask who started the fight, its the Mormons, coming in out of left field, tipping the balance, and as a result prop 8 passed. And from the viewpoints of the gays, the Mormons shit on their constitutional rights, sticking their nose into matters that are none of their business, and that is rude, crude, and socially unacceptable.

Mormons are 1.8% of the California population, and had no decisive impact on the popular vote.

30 states had some form of vote on marriage and all 30 states affirmed that marriage is between a man and a woman. Are you going to blame all votes on the Mormons? :roll:

I would like to know where the constitution says gay marriage is a guaranteed right.

Also, do you have any idea what the term "socially unacceptable" actually means? If you did, you would know you used it incorrectly. :roll:


Hey, I'm not passing any judgment, I'm just calling it as I see it.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
How is marriage a "right" when civil unions do the same thing?

Why don't we just get rid of marriage as an institution entirely. Maybe that'll shut everyone up.

1. civil unions are not the exact same thing, in name or in status, locally or federally, and separate but equal = inequal. Also, civil unions are only permitted in a couple of states, so the root problem remains almost everywhere.

2. that'd be fine because then everyone would be treated equally, which is what this whole thing is about.

Its pretty simple, the Fed and State Govts should only recognize civil unions and not marriages. Leave the term marriage to the church, and the govt uses civil unions. The issue is all about semantics.

What about Churches the allow same sex couple to marry? Should those marriages be recognized since they are all equal in the eyes of the state?

 

[cubby1223]

Marriage is much more than just a declaration between two lovers with some legal fringe benefits thrown in.

The traditional view marriage is a lifelong commitment to parenthood.

It's just too bad our current society has all but destroyed the institution of marriage amongst straights.

But more to the point, two gay men cannot produce a baby. I suppose that is also infringing on their constitutional rights, isn't it? I must be the bigot for denying two gay men the right to procreate.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: cubby1223
Marriage is much more than just a declaration between two lovers with some legal fringe benefits thrown in.

The traditional view marriage is a lifelong commitment to parenthood.

It's just too bad our current society has all but destroyed the institution of marriage amongst straights.

But more to the point, two gay men cannot produce a baby. I suppose that is also infringing on their constitutional rights, isn't it? I must be the bigot for denying two gay men the right to procreate.

There is absolutely no traditional or legal requirement that married couples must have children, so that argument doesn't hold any water.

There is also no rational argument that I've ever seen saying why gay marriage changes straight marriage in the slightest.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Lemon law
If we want to ask who started the fight, its the Mormons, coming in out of left field, tipping the balance, and as a result prop 8 passed. And from the viewpoints of the gays, the Mormons shit on their constitutional rights, sticking their nose into matters that are none of their business, and that is rude, crude, and socially unacceptable.

Mormons are 1.8% of the California population, and had no decisive impact on the popular vote.

30 states had some form of vote on marriage and all 30 states affirmed that marriage is between a man and a woman. Are you going to blame all votes on the Mormons? :roll:

I would like to know where the constitution says gay marriage is a guaranteed right.

The 14th amendment's equal protection clause (and similar clauses in many state constitutions) protects the rights of gay people to marry (as long as straight people are allowed to marry), an interpretation that has been upheld by many different courts, forming the basis for judicial protection of same-sex marriage. It basically says that you can't deny rights to some people that are given to others, and it was the legal theory behind desegregation as well as overturning laws banning interracial marriage (otherwise known as "defining marriage as between two people of the same race"). Now of course state constitutions have been modified to specially remove the rights of gay people to marry, and the reason was because under previous constitutional law, they DID have a right to marry.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: cubby1223
Marriage is much more than just a declaration between two lovers with some legal fringe benefits thrown in.

The traditional view marriage is a lifelong commitment to parenthood.

It's just too bad our current society has all but destroyed the institution of marriage amongst straights.

But more to the point, two gay men cannot produce a baby. I suppose that is also infringing on their constitutional rights, isn't it? I must be the bigot for denying two gay men the right to procreate.

Stupidest fuck post of the day.

 

[uli2000]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: cubby1223
Marriage is much more than just a declaration between two lovers with some legal fringe benefits thrown in.

The traditional view marriage is a lifelong commitment to parenthood.

It's just too bad our current society has all but destroyed the institution of marriage amongst straights.

But more to the point, two gay men cannot produce a baby. I suppose that is also infringing on their constitutional rights, isn't it? I must be the bigot for denying two gay men the right to procreate.

Stupidest fuck post of the day.

Yes, yours was. His was very good.

 

[extra]

If you don't want gay marriage then don't marry a gay person.

Though, if your marriage's sanctity is so unstable that it hangs by the thread of whether or not some other people somewhere who have nothing to do with you can or can't get married, you should probably re-examine your life.

You can even hate gays and still want marriage to be legal, as one fairly bigoted person I know said once "who cares what the silly fags do".

Honestly, I don't think the whole gay marriage thing is really about gays at all. It's about something else. It's about a group of people wanting to feel like they are still better somehow than other groups of people. Has nothing to do with sexuality or "morality". Period.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: uli2000

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: cubby1223
Marriage is much more than just a declaration between two lovers with some legal fringe benefits thrown in.

The traditional view marriage is a lifelong commitment to parenthood.

It's just too bad our current society has all but destroyed the institution of marriage amongst straights.

But more to the point, two gay men cannot produce a baby. I suppose that is also infringing on their constitutional rights, isn't it? I must be the bigot for denying two gay men the right to procreate.

Stupidest fuck post of the day.

Yes, yours was. His was very good.

Right. So remind us why gays shouldn't be married again?

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Marriage is much more than just a declaration between two lovers with some legal fringe benefits thrown in.

The traditional view marriage is a lifelong commitment to parenthood.

That's ONE reason for marriage. It may be your reason, but it's NOT the ONLY reason couples might choose to marry.

It's just too bad our current society has all but destroyed the institution of marriage amongst straights.

Gays have nothing to do with breaking up staight couples. That's between the particular straight couples

But more to the point, two gay men cannot produce a baby. I suppose that is also infringing on their constitutional rights, isn't it? I must be the bigot for denying two gay men the right to procreate.

No. There is no law or other requirement stating that straight couples must procreate. You're just a fucking BIGOT for denying monogamous gay couples, male and female, the same CIVIL rights and privileges granted under CIVIL law to monogamous straight couples.

What harm does it do you to allow other couples the same happiness you wish you could find for yourself in a heterosexual marriage?

Or are you just hung up in hurting others for no reason whatsoever? :roll: