Gay thread:2-15-07 Democrat Ex-NBA star Tim Hardaway says he hates gays & they should be banned from the world

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EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Good. It's unnatural.
You are entitled to your opinion. Evaluate a person for who they are before providing judgement.

However, to discrimentate against a class of people is wrong.

The same goes with this political stunt.
 

WHAMPOM

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Feb 28, 2006
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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Good. It's unnatural.

Lots of things are unnatural but they don't belong in the US Constitution...PERIOD!

If the states want to vote for a ban, fine.

This is 100% political pandering with absolutely no chance of passing. Nothing but a stunt to try to rally the base and get the voters out.

How is this different from almost ANYTHING else politicians do?

At least they're targeting a group that deserves it for once.

At least threads like this bring out the Bigots and Zealots to the forefront.

They are proud Anti-Americans.

So you are saying that I am not allowed to have my own oppinion? I am not allowed to dislike groups of people? Who's the anti-American here? Maybe we should just make you President and you can tell us all how we should think and act. Welcome to the world of communism. If you don't believe what Dave believes, then you will be punished.

Your intitled to your bigotry, just not to pass laws designed to force them on everyone else.
 

WHAMPOM

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Feb 28, 2006
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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Good. It's unnatural.



Walking upright and face to face sex is unnatural too. But humans continual to do these unnatural acts daily.
 

blackllotus

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
If you believe in Evolution, then how is homosexuality a survival trait? How could it have possibly evolved? The "gay gene" would have been wiped out long ago because they would not have reproduced.

It would be nice if you knew the basics of genetics before making a stupid comment like that. Homosexuality doesn't have to be caused by a gene. It can be caused by a combination of may genes. It can also be caused by a common mutation. What is known is that homosexuality is influenced by genetics because studies have shown homosexuals respond sexually to pheromones from the same sex (its impossible to fake sexual attraction).

EDIT: Reality
 

WHAMPOM

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It is a survial trait. Nonbreeding family members provide additional support for the young without having to compete for resources for their own.
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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www.alienbabeltech.com
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Good. It's unnatural.

Lots of things are unnatural but they don't belong in the US Constitution...PERIOD!

If the states want to vote for a ban, fine.

This is 100% political pandering with absolutely no chance of passing. Nothing but a stunt to try to rally the base and get the voters out.

How is this different from almost ANYTHING else politicians do?

At least they're targeting a group that deserves it for once.

At least threads like this bring out the Bigots and Zealots to the forefront.

They are proud Anti-Americans.
So you are saying that I am not allowed to have my own opinion?

I am not allowed to dislike groups of people?

Who's the anti-American here?

Maybe we should just make you President and you can tell us all how we should think and act.

Welcome to the world of communism.

If you don't believe what Dave believes, then you will be punished.

Your little rant wouldn't be so sad if it wasn't so wrong.

Did I say anything about you not "allowed" to have your own opinion or hate any people?

In the old America before this Republican Regime you could have your own opinion and hate anyone you wanted and it had no affect on the liberties of the people you hated.

That is what was the Constitution and Congress was designed for by the founding Fathers of this Country.

In comes the Religious bigoted rich Republicans and their supporters to shred the Constitution, it's protections and liberties for all.

You can call me Communist, Moron, Asshole, whatever you want but you will not be able to call me a bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for.

By God, keep it up and maybe just maybe you will be calling me Mr President.

Of course it will be a free Country and you will be free to leave because you hate that freedom.

Thank you
 

OrByte

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Jul 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Good. It's unnatural.
You are entitled to your opinion. Evaluate a person for who they are before providing judgement.

However, to discrimentate against a class of people is wrong.

The same goes with this political stunt.
I dont know how you can argue against that! :thumbsup:
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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616
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if any amendment is added to our constitution limiting or taking away rights of American CITIZENS then i will forever call all our elected reps who voted YEA for it a traitor to our country and to freedom.
 

Vette73

Lifer
Jul 5, 2000
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0
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Good. It's unnatural.
You are entitled to your opinion. Evaluate a person for who they are before providing judgement.

However, to discrimentate against a class of people is wrong.

The same goes with this political stunt.
I dont know how you can argue against that! :thumbsup:


:thumbsup:
 

XZeroII

Lifer
Jun 30, 2001
12,572
0
0
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Good. It's unnatural.

Lots of things are unnatural but they don't belong in the US Constitution...PERIOD!

If the states want to vote for a ban, fine.

This is 100% political pandering with absolutely no chance of passing. Nothing but a stunt to try to rally the base and get the voters out.

How is this different from almost ANYTHING else politicians do?

At least they're targeting a group that deserves it for once.

At least threads like this bring out the Bigots and Zealots to the forefront.

They are proud Anti-Americans.
So you are saying that I am not allowed to have my own opinion?

I am not allowed to dislike groups of people?

Who's the anti-American here?

Maybe we should just make you President and you can tell us all how we should think and act.

Welcome to the world of communism.

If you don't believe what Dave believes, then you will be punished.

Your little rant wouldn't be so sad if it wasn't so wrong.

Did I say anything about you not "allowed" to have your own opinion or hate any people?

In the old America before this Republican Regime you could have your own opinion and hate anyone you wanted and it had no affect on the liberties of the people you hated.

That is what was the Constitution and Congress was designed for by the founding Fathers of this Country.

In comes the Religious bigoted rich Republicans and their supporters to shred the Constitution, it's protections and liberties for all.

You can call me Communist, Moron, Asshole, whatever you want but you will not be able to call me a bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for.

By God, keep it up and maybe just maybe you will be calling me Mr President.

Of course it will be a free Country and you will be free to leave because you hate that freedom.

Thank you

I love my freedom. I love America. I hate it when I am persecuted because I don't like Gays. In fact, the ONLY reason why I posted what I did was to see people's reactions. My theory was right...you talk about freedom, yet you attack me just because my views are different from yours. Frankly, I don't care what you call me as well, but don't go around thinking that you are all high and mighty because you are just as predjudice and hate filled as everyone else in this world.

No, I cannot call you a bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I can call you a bigoted liberal nazi whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I hate Gays...you hate people who hate Gays. Everyone hates something...live with it. That's what makes America great.
 

Krakn3Dfx

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Sep 29, 2000
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The same activist judges that put him in the White House when he lsot the election in 2000? Yeah, that sounds about right.
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
54,894
47
91
www.alienbabeltech.com
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Good. It's unnatural.

Lots of things are unnatural but they don't belong in the US Constitution...PERIOD!

If the states want to vote for a ban, fine.

This is 100% political pandering with absolutely no chance of passing. Nothing but a stunt to try to rally the base and get the voters out.

How is this different from almost ANYTHING else politicians do?

At least they're targeting a group that deserves it for once.

At least threads like this bring out the Bigots and Zealots to the forefront.

They are proud Anti-Americans.
So you are saying that I am not allowed to have my own opinion?

I am not allowed to dislike groups of people?

Who's the anti-American here?

Maybe we should just make you President and you can tell us all how we should think and act.

Welcome to the world of communism.

If you don't believe what Dave believes, then you will be punished.

Your little rant wouldn't be so sad if it wasn't so wrong.

Did I say anything about you not "allowed" to have your own opinion or hate any people?

In the old America before this Republican Regime you could have your own opinion and hate anyone you wanted and it had no affect on the liberties of the people you hated.

That is what was the Constitution and Congress was designed for by the founding Fathers of this Country.

In comes the Religious bigoted rich Republicans and their supporters to shred the Constitution, it's protections and liberties for all.

You can call me Communist, Moron, Asshole, whatever you want but you will not be able to call me a bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for.

By God, keep it up and maybe just maybe you will be calling me Mr President.

Of course it will be a free Country and you will be free to leave because you hate that freedom.

Thank you

I love my freedom. I love America. I hate it when I am persecuted because I don't like Gays. In fact, the ONLY reason why I posted what I did was to see people's reactions. My theory was right...you talk about freedom, yet you attack me just because my views are different from yours. Frankly, I don't care what you call me as well, but don't go around thinking that you are all high and mighty because you are just as predjudice and hate filled as everyone else in this world.

No, I cannot call you a bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I can call you a bigoted liberal nazi whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I hate Gays...you hate people who hate Gays. Everyone hates something...live with it. That's what makes America great.

No, the fact that want to push your views against the ones you hate makes you clearly the America Hater.

I said nothing of the sort in the way of pushing or persecuting anyone, you did.

Like I said, you hate it so much, you are free to leave.
 

XZeroII

Lifer
Jun 30, 2001
12,572
0
0
Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: XZeroII
If you believe in Evolution, then how is homosexuality a survival trait? How could it have possibly evolved? The "gay gene" would have been wiped out long ago because they would not have reproduced.

It would be nice if you knew the basics of genetics before making a stupid comment like that. Homosexuality doesn't have to be caused by a gene. It can be caused by a combination of may genes. It can also be caused by a common mutation. What is known is that homosexuality is influenced by genetics because studies have shown homosexuals respond sexually to pheromones from the same sex (its impossible to fake sexual attraction).

EDIT: Reality


1. It was announced by scientists (so it must be true, right?) that they found the gay gene. Remember?
2. So if I respond favorably to a jar of peanut butter, should I go and have sex with it?
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
13,051
6
81
Originally posted by: XZeroII


No, I cannot call you a bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I can call you a bigoted liberal nazi whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I hate Gays...you hate people who hate Gays. Everyone hates something...live with it. That's what makes America great.

That is NOT what makes america great, where in our constitution or anywhere did we making discrimination one of our values?

Matter of fact this is so unamerican we even fought a war to stop it.

America is about equality and liberty. discrimination is about taking anothers freedom away.

You are very very wrong here, and people who consider themselves americans should be harsh to those who wish to take that away as it is against what we stand for.

What part of "With Liberty And Justice For All" do you not understand?

Do yourself a favor, read our constitution. You will see you are pretty lost on this.
 

XZeroII

Lifer
Jun 30, 2001
12,572
0
0
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Good. It's unnatural.

Lots of things are unnatural but they don't belong in the US Constitution...PERIOD!

If the states want to vote for a ban, fine.

This is 100% political pandering with absolutely no chance of passing. Nothing but a stunt to try to rally the base and get the voters out.

How is this different from almost ANYTHING else politicians do?

At least they're targeting a group that deserves it for once.

At least threads like this bring out the Bigots and Zealots to the forefront.

They are proud Anti-Americans.
So you are saying that I am not allowed to have my own opinion?

I am not allowed to dislike groups of people?

Who's the anti-American here?

Maybe we should just make you President and you can tell us all how we should think and act.

Welcome to the world of communism.

If you don't believe what Dave believes, then you will be punished.

Your little rant wouldn't be so sad if it wasn't so wrong.

Did I say anything about you not "allowed" to have your own opinion or hate any people?

In the old America before this Republican Regime you could have your own opinion and hate anyone you wanted and it had no affect on the liberties of the people you hated.

That is what was the Constitution and Congress was designed for by the founding Fathers of this Country.

In comes the Religious bigoted rich Republicans and their supporters to shred the Constitution, it's protections and liberties for all.

You can call me Communist, Moron, Asshole, whatever you want but you will not be able to call me a bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for.

By God, keep it up and maybe just maybe you will be calling me Mr President.

Of course it will be a free Country and you will be free to leave because you hate that freedom.

Thank you

I love my freedom. I love America. I hate it when I am persecuted because I don't like Gays. In fact, the ONLY reason why I posted what I did was to see people's reactions. My theory was right...you talk about freedom, yet you attack me just because my views are different from yours. Frankly, I don't care what you call me as well, but don't go around thinking that you are all high and mighty because you are just as predjudice and hate filled as everyone else in this world.

No, I cannot call you a bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I can call you a bigoted liberal nazi whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I hate Gays...you hate people who hate Gays. Everyone hates something...live with it. That's what makes America great.

No, the fact that want to push your views against the ones you hate makes you clearly the America Hater.

I said nothing of the sort in the way of pushing or persecuting anyone, you did.

Like I said, you hate it so much, you are free to leave.

As I said, I love my country. I will abide by any law that is passed and is constitutional. If they pass this law, which aligns with my beliefs, then I'm all for it. If they pass the opposite and allow Gays to get married, I will abide by that as well. I just happen to be on the winning end this time and am happy about it. I am not 'pushing' anything on anyone. Our elected officials are simply carrying out the wishes of those who voted for them. It's the way AMERICA works.

And you are persecuting me. "bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for." You are insulting me because of my personal views.
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
13,051
6
81
Your right to a view ends when they step on anothers right to freedom for life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Just becasue you are discriminatory does not mean you can sh1t on others who have done no wrong.
 

XZeroII

Lifer
Jun 30, 2001
12,572
0
0
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: XZeroII


No, I cannot call you a bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I can call you a bigoted liberal nazi whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I hate Gays...you hate people who hate Gays. Everyone hates something...live with it. That's what makes America great.

That is NOT what makes america great, where in our constitution or anywhere did we making discrimination one of our values?

Matter of fact this is so unamerican we even fought a war to stop it.

America is about equality and liberty. discrimination is about taking anothers freedom away.

You are very very wrong here, and people who consider themselves americans should be harsh to those who wish to take that away as it is against what we stand for.

What part of "With Liberty And Justice For All" do you not understand?

Do yourself a favor, read our constitution. You will see you are pretty lost on this.

You are discriminating against those who dislike gays.

Maybe you will one day open your eyes and realize that everyone discriminates against one group or another. You just get upset because I discriminate against a group that you don't.
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
13,051
6
81
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: XZeroII


No, I cannot call you a bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I can call you a bigoted liberal nazi whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I hate Gays...you hate people who hate Gays. Everyone hates something...live with it. That's what makes America great.

That is NOT what makes america great, where in our constitution or anywhere did we making discrimination one of our values?

Matter of fact this is so unamerican we even fought a war to stop it.

America is about equality and liberty. discrimination is about taking anothers freedom away.

You are very very wrong here, and people who consider themselves americans should be harsh to those who wish to take that away as it is against what we stand for.

What part of "With Liberty And Justice For All" do you not understand?

Do yourself a favor, read our constitution. You will see you are pretty lost on this.

You are discriminating against those who dislike gays.

Maybe you will one day open your eyes and realize that everyone discriminates against one group or another. You just get upset because I discriminate against a group that you don't.



I am not taking your rights away though, but you are trying to take anothers. you dont get the fact that america is about freedom for all religions classes creed etc.

This "we all do it" type of thought is for those looking for an excuse to be a bigot.

My views do not prevent you from having an equal shot at life, where yours do.
 

blackllotus

Golden Member
May 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: XZeroII


No, I cannot call you a bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I can call you a bigoted liberal nazi whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I hate Gays...you hate people who hate Gays. Everyone hates something...live with it. That's what makes America great.

That is NOT what makes america great, where in our constitution or anywhere did we making discrimination one of our values?

Matter of fact this is so unamerican we even fought a war to stop it.

America is about equality and liberty. discrimination is about taking anothers freedom away.

You are very very wrong here, and people who consider themselves americans should be harsh to those who wish to take that away as it is against what we stand for.

What part of "With Liberty And Justice For All" do you not understand?

Do yourself a favor, read our constitution. You will see you are pretty lost on this.

You are discriminating against those who dislike gays.

Maybe you will one day open your eyes and realize that everyone discriminates against one group or another. You just get upset because I discriminate against a group that you don't.

And you are persecuting me. "bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for." You are insulting me because of my personal views.

Omfg, stop acting like such a baby. There is absolutely nothing wrong with criticizing/insulting someone for their views. What IS wrong is taking away the rights of other innocent human beings just because you don't approve of what they do.
 

XZeroII

Lifer
Jun 30, 2001
12,572
0
0
Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: XZeroII


No, I cannot call you a bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I can call you a bigoted liberal nazi whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I hate Gays...you hate people who hate Gays. Everyone hates something...live with it. That's what makes America great.

That is NOT what makes america great, where in our constitution or anywhere did we making discrimination one of our values?

Matter of fact this is so unamerican we even fought a war to stop it.

America is about equality and liberty. discrimination is about taking anothers freedom away.

You are very very wrong here, and people who consider themselves americans should be harsh to those who wish to take that away as it is against what we stand for.

What part of "With Liberty And Justice For All" do you not understand?

Do yourself a favor, read our constitution. You will see you are pretty lost on this.

You are discriminating against those who dislike gays.

Maybe you will one day open your eyes and realize that everyone discriminates against one group or another. You just get upset because I discriminate against a group that you don't.

And you are persecuting me. "bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for." You are insulting me because of my personal views.

Omfg, stop acting like such a baby. There is absolutely nothing wrong with criticizing/insulting someone for their views. What IS wrong is taking away the rights of other innocent human beings just because you don't approve of what they do.

What right does a person have to get married?
 

TheSlamma

Diamond Member
Sep 6, 2005
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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: XZeroII


No, I cannot call you a bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I can call you a bigoted liberal nazi whacko that hates America and what it stands for. I hate Gays...you hate people who hate Gays. Everyone hates something...live with it. That's what makes America great.

That is NOT what makes america great, where in our constitution or anywhere did we making discrimination one of our values?

Matter of fact this is so unamerican we even fought a war to stop it.

America is about equality and liberty. discrimination is about taking anothers freedom away.

You are very very wrong here, and people who consider themselves americans should be harsh to those who wish to take that away as it is against what we stand for.

What part of "With Liberty And Justice For All" do you not understand?

Do yourself a favor, read our constitution. You will see you are pretty lost on this.

You are discriminating against those who dislike gays.

Maybe you will one day open your eyes and realize that everyone discriminates against one group or another. You just get upset because I discriminate against a group that you don't.

And you are persecuting me. "bigoted fundamentalist religious whacko that hates America and what it stands for." You are insulting me because of my personal views.

Omfg, stop acting like such a baby. There is absolutely nothing wrong with criticizing/insulting someone for their views. What IS wrong is taking away the rights of other innocent human beings just because you don't approve of what they do.

What right does a person have to get married?
There are laws against marriage for minors, so once that age is reached it becomes a right.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
35,787
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These are the same people who tell us abortion is going to be left up to the states if Roe is overturned, but they wouldn't leave it up to the states in this case.
 

blackllotus

Golden Member
May 30, 2005
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0
Originally posted by: XZeroII
What right does a person have to get married?

It is a right because it is granted to us by law. Passing a gay marriage ban gives heterosexual people a privilege over homosexuals. Discrimination cannot get any clearer.
 
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