Phoenix86
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- May 21, 2003
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Logic fail.If you think openly gay people should be allowed in the military, then you must also believe showers and locker rooms in gyms should be coed.
Logic fail.If you think openly gay people should be allowed in the military, then you must also believe showers and locker rooms in gyms should be coed.
because women have boobies
No one ever really said they had to remain separated.
If the military stopped doing gender separation alltogether, along with allowing openly gay people to serve, then at least it's fairness would be legit.
I honestly don't understand how openly gay men being forced to shower with straight men (and vice versa) is any different than males and females showering together?
The same exact reasoning being used ("not sexual deviants looking to butt rape", "dealt with swiftly and strongly") in support of allowing gays can be used to support coed showering and living quarters.
The fact of the matter is, is that problems would definitely arise. We have more than enough people in the military right now that we do not need gays and the problems they would bring.
Why are Republicans so obsessed with what goes on in someones bedroom?
Why do you assume it's Republicans who are obsessed?
I honestly don't understand how openly gay men being forced to shower with straight men (and vice versa) is any different than males and females showering together?
The same exact reasoning being used ("not sexual deviants looking to butt rape", "dealt with swiftly and strongly") in support of allowing gays can be used to support coed showering and living quarters.
The fact of the matter is, is that problems would definitely arise. We have more than enough people in the military right now that we do not need gays and the problems they would bring.
What would you like to see happen? I ask because some who point out things like co-ed showering etc are only doing that to sidestep the discussion about DADT; turning the conversation away from what they don't want (gays serving openly) to what they do want (no gender separation).
copy the Indian military...don't shower?
I can take a shower with a female and not want to bang just because she's naked. Why do people assume they have no control over their sexual desires? Would I look? Of course. Hell I might get turned on. Would I act on it? Nope.
idk about you, but if I was in a shower full of naked women, 1) I would probably not be concentrating as well as I could be on more serious matters, and 2) those women would probably feel quite uncomfortable
idk about you, but if I was in a shower full of naked women, 1) I would probably not be concentrating as well as I could be on more serious matters, and 2) those women would probably feel quite uncomfortable
has this discussion seriously dissolved to how a shower would work out if DADT was repealed? holy shit.
it doesn't matter anyway since it was defeated because people hate freedom and equality in this country apparently, but seriously people have some really fucked up issues.
here's a little piece of information, you've been showering with gay dudes likely your entire life at the gym or in the military or wherever public showers are. you're not going to get hit on, raped, touched, or even so much as talked to. People are in the shower to get clean, there is no vast conspiracy, just clean your fucking body and get out and move on.
:thumbsup:has this discussion seriously dissolved to how a shower would work out if DADT was repealed? holy shit.
it doesn't matter anyway since it was defeated because people hate freedom and equality in this country apparently, but seriously people have some really fucked up issues.
here's a little piece of information, you've been showering with gay dudes likely your entire life at the gym or in the military or wherever public showers are. you're not going to get hit on, raped, touched, or even so much as talked to. People are in the shower to get clean, there is no vast conspiracy, just clean your fucking body and get out and move on.
this is not new or shocking information to anyone.here's a little piece of information, you've been showering with gay dudes likely your entire life at the gym or in the military or wherever public showers are.
who said you would? Stop trying to make this the issue. Stop playing the homophobic card.you're not going to get hit on, raped, touched, or even so much as talked to.
People are in the shower to get clean, there is no vast conspiracy, just clean your fucking body and get out and move on.
I honestly don't understand how openly gay men being forced to shower with straight men (and vice versa) is any different than males and females showering together?
The same exact reasoning being used ("not sexual deviants looking to butt rape", "dealt with swiftly and strongly") in support of allowing gays can be used to support coed showering and living quarters.
The fact of the matter is, is that problems would definitely arise. We have more than enough people in the military right now that we do not need gays and the problems they would bring.
LOL @ "gays and the problems they would bring"
Anyway; I will agree with one thing. Having gay guys showering with straight guys is pretty much the same thing as men and women showering together. Either gender divided showers should be done away with, or there should be private showers (which probably isn't practical). Banishing gays from the military is not the answer.
Personally I would find showering with anyone other than my girlfriend awkward, gays or not.