Well thats almost 100% attributed to religion and it's heavy hand on culture, so until religions change, it's not going to change.
One (of many) flaw in the logic of your friend is his thinking that "society" has become more accepting of LBGT people. This may be true in a small number of western countries, but it certainly isn't true for the majority of the world. Or North Carolina.
Disagree, religion is a subset of culture. It's a big part, so developments in religion can sway entire cultures, but if the larger culture changes then religious expression will eventually go along with it.Well thats almost 100% attributed to religion and it's heavy hand on culture, so until religions change, it's not going to change.
You get back in your cage!
Morons,
"Homosexuality is genetic" does not mean that the only way to be born gay is to have a gay parent.
Yours,
-Cerpin
I don't really get why so many find this gay gene concept so compelling. Do there also need to be genes that determine whether someone will be classy, have a dry wit, or like baseball? No doubt some of them can push a person in certain directions, but I think for most things psychological that's all there is. And how about bisexuals, asexuals, or even furries? I find it very hard to believe that genetics is the entire answer.
They find it compelling because for a long time, its been thought of as just a mental illness or addiction and something that could be fixed through 10 hail mary's etc. It's only recently that the gene thing has come up and has more to do with people saying "I was born this way, it wasn't a choice". It's not really about finding a gene so much as trying to determine what makes one person that way and another not. I personally lean towards 'mental' reasons and/or hormonal imbalances, but people tend to see those things as a negative and as something that can be 'fixed'.
Granted we are even closer to being able to 'fix' genes as well.
not to start a flamewar but just sharing a thought.
My friend, who believes gays&les are born with homosexual genetics (nature than nurture), thinks that g&l will cease to exist eventually. His reasoning is that only recently society has opened its arm towards LGBT and those who lived in old times could not easily come out like they can today. Results were, LG people who felt they were LG, hid the facts and got married with heterosexual partner and had children.. thus passing their LG genes along. I know a friend whose uncle married a lesbian and had 6 kids, and 4 of them became lesbians..
anyways, so with the society now accepting LG people as they are, many get married with homosexual partners and do not have biological children, thus the genes do not get passed along..
whaddaya think? I thought it makes a pretty good hypothesis.
Coping mechanism is plausible enough for me, but it would be nice if we could collectively just accept that they exist and be done with it. Not everything has a reason in the sense of a direct chain of cause and effect, in fact the closer you look at something the more likely you are to find an element of randomness.They find it compelling because for a long time, its been thought of as just a mental illness or addiction and something that could be fixed through 10 hail mary's etc. It's only recently that the gene thing has come up and has more to do with people saying "I was born this way, it wasn't a choice". It's not really about finding a gene so much as trying to determine what makes one person that way and another not. I personally lean towards 'mental' reasons and/or hormonal imbalances, but people tend to see those things as a negative and as something that can be 'fixed'.
Granted we are even closer to being able to 'fix' genes as well.
This also mirrors the premise of the body weight set point. Medical studies say that as a person ages their body's weight set point increases leading to obesity. At the same time they say that wealth influences weight gain in an attempt to explain why western citizens tend to be heavier than other cultures. I see it as cause and effect and there are plenty of people who understand that the human body is a machine that responds to food that you as a person regulate.Actually, identifying a gene that could alter hormonal balance and being able to alter that would have certain repercussions in many ways.
not to start a flamewar but just sharing a thought.
My friend, who believes gays&les are born with homosexual genetics (nature than nurture), thinks that g&l will cease to exist eventually. His reasoning is that only recently society has opened its arm towards LGBT and those who lived in old times could not easily come out like they can today. Results were, LG people who felt they were LG, hid the facts and got married with heterosexual partner and had children.. thus passing their LG genes along. I know a friend whose uncle married a lesbian and had 6 kids, and 4 of them became lesbians..
anyways, so with the society now accepting LG people as they are, many get married with homosexual partners and do not have biological children, thus the genes do not get passed along..
whaddaya think? I thought it makes a pretty good hypothesis.
Who is the "Adam" person I keep seeing in this thread? Who is god?
I know what you mean, it seems like everywhere I look these days it's just retards as far as the eye can see.On the flip side of the coin I see this passage in the bible which says "As it was in the days of Noah so shall it be when the Son of Man comes" and when I look at the conditions that were present guess what one of them was? I'm just saying that I see a general trend in the wrong direction as demonstrated by peoples behavior that will only worsen with time.