Anyone at this point who thinks Obama is soft on terrorists has been paying zero attention.
Anyone at this point who thinks Obama is soft on terrorists has been paying zero attention.No we wouldn't, jug ears would send a diplomatic envoy to talk to mexican leaders.
I like conversing with people with opposing viewpoints, including those supporting Israel. I prefer that on any topic. The problem here are quite a few disgusting people who consider the brown man, the Arab etc as less than human, who openly call for their massacre. The lowest of the low scumI enjoy reading a forum with people with different opinions than me. Why would you want to go somewhere full of people who agree with you? "Israel sure sucks." "Yeah, they're real dicks." etc etc etc. That would get boring pretty fast.
I assume that your lack of 'fucks to give' only applies to the misery of Gazan kids.
Bet you wept like a child when you visited Yad Vashem in Jerusalem? Those piles of children' shoes and other dreadful artefacts.
Do you only consider the misery and pain of Jews?
Is that a sound moral position?
If you think it is, that implies that you are a deeply narcissistic and unpleasant person.
If you agree that such a view is not a defensible moral position then you should reflect on what you write before going-off on a rant-fest with our other resident Zionist bigot, Yoda.
I see from the news that Israel is currently enjoying a collective 'hard-on' about the disproportionate suffering of this one-sided punishment beating. Enjoy it while it lasts.
I see that Israelis opposed to the war are spat at and bullied in the street. (Channel 4 News, 8th August 2014, 20.15 UTC). Didn't that sort of thing happen in Munich in 1938?
The US will eventually tire of funding your bombs and Iron Domes, and at that point Israel will have to enter into meaningful dialogue with the people Israel displaced by ethnic cleansing in 1947/48.
Read the work of the Israeli historian, Ilan Pappe, "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" (2006).
I am sorry but no. This is Israel's fault for not trying to work out peaceful resolutions and bombing the shit out of civilian areas that needed to be avoided. In addition, this whole "they sided with Hamas so they don't get civilian status" is utter bullshit. Way to go on dehumanizing these people.
I assume that your lack of 'fucks to give' only applies to the misery of Gazan kids.
Bet you wept like a child when you visited Yad Vashem in Jerusalem? Those piles of children' shoes and other dreadful artefacts.
Do you only consider the misery and pain of Jews?
Is that a sound moral position?
If you think it is, that implies that you are a deeply narcissistic and unpleasant person.
If you agree that such a view is not a defensible moral position then you should reflect on what you write before going-off on a rant-fest with our other resident Zionist bigot, Yoda.
I see from the news that Israel is currently enjoying a collective 'hard-on' about the disproportionate suffering of this one-sided punishment beating. Enjoy it while it lasts.
I see that Israelis opposed to the war are spat at and bullied in the street. (Channel 4 News, 8th August 2014, 20.15 UTC). Didn't that sort of thing happen in Munich in 1938?
The US will eventually tire of funding your bombs and Iron Domes, and at that point Israel will have to enter into meaningful dialogue with the people Israel displaced by ethnic cleansing in 1947/48.
Read the work of the Israeli historian, Ilan Pappe, "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" (2006).
Amazing the justifications people here will come up with to assuage any semblance of guilt, eh?
But hey, those children probably voted for Hamas, they deserved it.
Guilt? No. The only people to blame for those dead kids are their parents and neighbors, the ones hiding weapons in their homes and schools.
"Israel uses its weapons to protect their families, the Palestinians use their families to protect their weapons."
Ah, of course. I'm sure of those 2000, none of them are just people trying to make a living, get through the day, and take care of their families. They're all active supporters of Hamas ,and are harboring weapons and contraband for terror tunnels.
Keep spinning the fairy tales.
Like someone said earlier, war is hell. During WW2 I'm sure a lot of Germans and Japanese were just "trying to make a living, get through the day, and take care of their families". Not every German was a Nazi and countless innocents died to Allied bombs.
If they (the Palestinians) keep re-electing one of the most virulent terrorist organizations as their leaders, and continue lobbing bombs into Israeli cities, this will continue to happen.
Amazing the justifications people here will come up with to assuage any semblance of guilt, eh?
Amazing the justifications people here will come up with to assuage any semblance of guilt, eh?
But hey, those children probably voted for Hamas, they deserved it.
Nebor, your stance is well defined for arbitrary rulings that none grouped into the opposition may be innocent, and in defence of Israel, even those posting on this forum warrant death. Your bias is for the supremacism against the condemned Palestinians. Nebor, you are also very much a violent extremist:Innocent people die in wars. In this case, it seems likely that they are being purposely endangered by their own elected government.
But like I said, those of us with more than an academic knowledge of you and your kind wouldn't mind if you filmed us while we put your entire extended family in one mass grave, because we know eventually it'll be you or us. We either fight now, alongside Israel, or wait until you convince enough idiots to let you gain the upper hand.
Way, way, way over any line.
Perknose
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Rational and pragmatic outcomes, Nebor. You are describing a symptom.They're on track to create an increasingly radicalized population as time goes on.
A resolution is not militarily feasible. Currently, Israel does not want a resolution with Palestinians as that negates Israeli annexation and colonisation of further Palestinian territory. Therefore, by regularly undertaking strong military measures under the false guise of resolving security issues, Israel is duplicitously fostering the continuance of a rebelling armed insurgency to cover Israel's continued illegal territorial expansion.
Strategic Studies InstituteandU.S. Army War College PressSTATE COLLAPSE, INSURGENCY,AND COUNTERINSURGENCY:LESSONS FROM SOMALIAJ. Peter PhamNovember 2013
A Lesson about Legitimacy and the
Limits of Military Force in Counterinsurgency:
Specifically, if the regime fighting an insurgency is unable or unwilling to achieve internal political legitimacy, no outside intervention will be able to help it to "victory," as even a cursory review of the relationship between legitimacy and military force in civil wars will confirm.
It is a principle that, in civil wars, while military force is vital for insurgents—without it, they pose no threat to the state—it is less important to the governments that oppose them. For the latter, while having capable armed forces and the political will to use them is not unimportant, unless the governments achieve legitimacy, their counterinsurgency operations will ultimately fail. As for the sustainability of any peace, it depends less on a government’s military strength than on its ability to convince the population of its legitimacy, deriving just powers from those it proposes to govern and providing them with reasonable opportunities for political, economic, and social development.
Look, another idiot repeating rightwing messages, what a good little follower you are. Now Hamas is one of the most virulent terrorist organizations to you people? Might as well just copy/paste idf propaganda like jediyoda.
Nebor, your stance is well defined for arbitrary rulings that none grouped into the opposition may be innocent, and in defence of Israel, even those posting on this forum warrant death. Your bias is for the supremacism against the condemned Palestinians. Nebor, you are also very much a violent extremist:
With that contextual clarification asserted:
Rational and pragmatic outcomes, Nebor. You are describing a symptom.
The root causes of such insurgent extremism are of a population forced to endure decades old occupation, siege, ghettoization, and practiced ethnic cleansing as many being refugees who are denied the legal right of return to their now confiscated property.
Israel is in control. Israel is committing international high crimes of aggression. With Israelis drive to attain a Greater Israel, the populations suffering react in the diverse rebelling manners as can be expected. I have presented this before:
A resolution is not militarily feasible. Currently, Israel does not want a resolution with Palestinians as that negates Israeli annexation and colonisation of further Palestinian territory. Therefore, by regularly undertaking strong military measures under the false guise of resolving security issues, Israel is duplicitously fostering the continuance of a rebelling armed insurgency to cover Israel's continued illegal territorial expansion.
Injustice instigates reaction. Palestinians react against the supressing power. The greater the injustice and the length and forceful retaliation upon a denser population only reasonably increase the number who feel cornered into reacting with rebellion and into the realms of crime.
No room for rational discussion.All bullshit. They were swearing to destroy all Jews and "force Israel into the sea" long before they turned their own lands into cesspits. Like all Jihadists, they want the monetary benefits of a civilized society without actually being civilized, doing whatever their sociopathic leaders tell them, in a vain attempt to please their bloodthirsty deity.
No room for rational discussion.
Yet more generalised hate speech to denigrate and demonise all Palestinians and Muslims..... So much the better to enable the calls for genocidal extermination that have become quite vocally presented by forum members.
No room for rational discussion.
Yet more generalised hate speech to denigrate and demonise all Palestinians and Muslims..... So much the better to enable the calls for genocidal extermination that have become quite vocally presented by forum members.
Because Palestinians and Muslims are generally deserving of our hatred. Thus the generalization.
If you can't even accept that they're a violent terrorist organization, recognized as such by every international watch group who tracks such things, then you're either irrevocably stupid, or just another antisemitic internet troll. (I'm thinking you're the latter.) :\
I don't hate Muslims, there are good ones here where I live. I encourage those who support moderate Islamic ideals. The problem is, the vast bulk of Palestinians aren't moderate Muslims, by any stretch of the imagination.
Because Palestinians and Muslims are generally deserving of our hatred. Thus the generalization.
Here comes the antisemitic card, typical.
Says who? IDF propaganda you parrot?
Reality hurts? Stop being a dipshit.
The UN Council on Foreign Relations and the Palestinians' own election records? Seriously, do you ignorant assholes even bother to read any of those reports, or do you just herp-derp through and immediately start in with the "blame the Joos!" douchebaggery? :hmm:
It's not reality, it's an attempt to avoid addressing legitimate criticism and to shut down debate.
Never heard of the UN Council on Foreign Relations?
It isn't reality that Jihadists are anti-semites? If your comment isn't a "WTF?! generator", I don't know what is.
CFR isn't affiliated to the UN, to my knowledge.