Question Geekbench 6 released and calibrated against Core i7-12700

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Kocicak

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... After another quick test where I upped my polling rate, I take back this statement somewhat. Most tests seem to use ~12 threads on my CPU with Clang using ~20
12 threads help AMD CPUs with all cores strong, while Intel needs to run 4 or even 6 of these threads on weaker E cores. In this particular thread number advantage of the AMD CPUs is substantial.
 

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Lightly multithreaded loads favor AMD, because they have all cores large, fewer threads hit weaker E cores on Intel CPUs, but not that many of them to reap the full benefits of them.

And in spite of this 13600K at stock has 88% ST and 77% MT performance of the 7950X at half the price. Impressive value.

Hmm
13900K : https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/409
13900KS: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/545

I can play that game too, this time comapring to intel's top of the line parts:

"And in spite of this 13600K at stock has 86% ST and 76% MT performance of the 13900K/13900KS at half the price. Impressive value."
 

Kocicak

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Hmm
13900K : https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/409
13900KS: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/545

I can play that game too, this time comparing to intel's top of the line parts:

"And in spite of this 13600K at stock has 86% ST and 76% MT performance of the 13900K/13900KS at half the price. Impressive value."
No problem, I am proud of myself of resisting to pick up the 13900KS I ordered and going instead with the rational solution... Although this benchmark forced me down to 5400 MHz, which seems sooo slooow compared to 6 GHz of the 13900KS. They still have it in the shop. Ready for sale.... Oh no, it is still tempting me.


128 threads is almost useless ?????
Yeah. For me. And for another 7 999 900 000 people on this planet 128 threads are useless.
 
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Kocicak

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No Doubt MT scores have taken a huge hit.
This new benchmark is apparently useless for comparing server CPUs... Is this a problem? I believe that servers can be specialized and somebody building these servers and wanting to compare the CPUs for them needs to run specific benchmarks which correspond to what the server is going to do.
 
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Kocicak

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Not only Servers, but **** as well
No, it is dead, do not mention it. Forget about it. Think WORKSTATIONS now!

On one hand it makes GB6 useless for servers/workstations. But it does make it even better for normal consumers. Really these many core CPUs do only provide minimal gains for most people.

Yes, there is no problem in having one benchmark useful for normal PCs only.
 
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Carfax83

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Kinda interesting to compare it with DDR4 4000C18 13900KS 8C8T, undervolted stock:

Nice score. I think my single score clock speed was limited to 5.5ghz because of how I configured my BIOS.

I don't really care about single core performance that much. I'll probably let it boost to 5.8ghz and let it run again and see if my single score increases.
 

Hitman928

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Coz heavy multithreaded would favor AMD!

WOW. Are they being paid off by Intel?

Geekbench was originally designed as a test to be used to compare smart phones and tablets. They've gone through some iterations and in GB4 and 5 it seemed like they tried to adjust to a more general test across lots of different systems. It seems with GB6 that they are kind of reverting the focus to be back more on portable type systems. I don't think that's evidence that they are biased towards Intel, just that it's probably not a great test for modern desktops and is useless for workstation/server class systems.
 

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From the TR PRO comparison runs, its clearly not a good MT run benchmark. 128 threads is almost useless ?????
They changed the way multicore works to be more in line with how it actually works for desktop workloads.

I wouldn’t say it doesn’t scale, I bet 16 < 32 < 64 cores if all other things are equal (uarch, clocks)

I may play with it later.
Kinda interesting to compare it with DDR4 4000C18 13900KS 8C8T, undervolted stock:

Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-7D25 - Geekbench Browser

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I think B-Die stuff would perform even better, this system needs 64GB unfortunately, was suprised it actually ran 4000.
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You should consider going for a DDR5 setup. 64gb of low latency DDR5 working at 6000-6200 in my AMD system, and I am sure Intel users have even faster stuff.
 
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Carfax83

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@JoeRambo, does your KS boost to 6ghz during the run? I checked the clock speeds on my CPU and it maxed out at 5.5ghz. I guess I must be thermally limited since I'm on air cooling.
 

Markfw

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This new benchmark is apparently useless for comparing server CPUs... Is this a problem? I believe that servers can be specialized and somebody building these servers and wanting to compare the CPUs for them needs to run specific benchmarks which correspond to what the server is going to do.
Its useless for almost anything with more than 12 threads. Thats like 13900k, 7950x, ALL HEDT and workstation CPUs, and all servers. Its leaves just mid end desktop and below is all that its good for.

So to me, its totally workhless for anything.
 

Markfw

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They changed the way multicore works to be more in line with how it actually works for desktop workloads.

I wouldn’t say it doesn’t scale, I bet 16 < 32 < 64 cores if all other things are equal (uarch, clocks)

I may play with it later.


You should consider going for a DDR5 setup. 64gb of low latency DDR5 working at 6000-6200 in my AMD system, and I am sure Intel users have even faster stuff.
and my 2 256 thread systems ? I can't compare them. If what it does only works for middle of the line desktop workloads, what good is it ?
 
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