geeks has pioneer a06 $259!

[hans007]

http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=DVR-A06

4x dvd+r, 4x dvd-r, 2.4x dvd+rw, 2.4x dvd-rw

 

[zaph]

geek special, no 10% coupon on it (yet)

 

[weepul]

oooooh. too bad geek specials tend to stay special. i've never seen a geek special become non-special.

//krunk (^_^x)

 

[ImSeeker]

Pricegrabber says I can get this for $220-$230 after shipping from certain sites. Am I missing something?

 

[uibd]

Originally posted by: ImSeeker
Pricegrabber says I can get this for $220-$230 after shipping from certain sites. Am I missing something?

Compgeeks has a pretty good rep.

 

[NauTiKa128]

Is this the best dvd burner available??

 

[wicktron]

Probably.

 

[NauTiKa128]

nice...

 

[Kwad Guy]

As Pioneer bows to the inevitable with a drive that burns DVD+R/RW and the curtain starts to drop on the -R/RW format.

Kwad

 

[MysticMan1]

Optorite DD0203 DVD +/-RW ReWritable Drive retail box starting at $191 shipped

Optorite DD0203

SONY DW-U10A 4X DVD±RW/±R DRIVE (OEM version), can be flashed to a Sony DRU-500AX, probable to a DRU-510A too.
starting at $217.95 shipped

SONY DW-U10A

PIONEER DVR-106D 4X DVD±RW/±R DRIVE (OEM version) starting at $223.63 shipped.

PIONEER DVR-106

:light: :light: :light: :light: :beer:

 

[SimMike2]

As Pioneer bows to the inevitable with a drive that burns DVD+R/RW and the curtain starts to drop on the -R/RW format

Most people I know who have combo drives are burning -R disks because these are the most reasonable cost. Doesn't sound like -R fading away to me. I've only had my Pioneer 105 for a few months and I think it has already paid for itself. At the time, I got it for $150 after rebate. Sony combo drives were close to $300 at this time. So how did I spend the $150 difference, I got 150 blank DVD-R with cases! Are all these DVD-R disks I burned going to be obsolete just because +R "won" this war? No they won't. As long as blank -R disks are available for reasonable cost, my Pioneer 105 will be 100% usefull to me and still be every bit as compatible as it ever was. I think lots of the +R group have sour grapes because they struggle to find reasonably priced media. This could, and probably will, change in the near future, but right now it has to make them mad.

Maybe five years from now, blank DVD-R media will be hard to come by, but I doubt whether my drive will even function at this point after burning thousands and thousands of disks. If I had the choice right now, I would get the new Pioneer drive. They make solid durable DVD writers.

 

[Kwad Guy]

Whether or not you find DVD-R media cost effective, or whether you prefer them or whether you are happy with your A05 deck is not germaine to my comment, which spoke to the format that is going to dominate going forward.

What does this mean? Will playback support for DVD-R/RW disappear? Not likely. It's trivial to build into any future DVD player firmware. BUT it does mean that the price of DVD+R/RW media can be expected, very soon, to drop below that for DVD-R/RW media. I would expect that eventually, DVD+R/RW media will be MUCH cheaper than DVD-R/RW media, only because of economies of scale...

If you like your A05, fine. I have an AO5 as well, and I'm happy with it. But so what?

Kwad

 

[Controller]

Originally posted by: Kwad Guy
Whether or not you find DVD-R media cost effective, or whether you prefer them or whether you are happy with your A05 deck is not germaine to my comment, which spoke to the format that is going to dominate going forward. What does this mean? Will playback support for DVD-R/RW disappear? Not likely. It's trivial to build into any future DVD player firmware. BUT it does mean that the price of DVD+R/RW media can be expected, very soon, to drop below that for DVD-R/RW media. I would expect that eventually, DVD+R/RW media will be MUCH cheaper than DVD-R/RW media, only because of economies of scale... If you like your A05, fine. I have an AO5 as well, and I'm happy with it. But so what? Kwad

Amen. I have had good service out of a couple A05's and an A04. I've enjoyed seeing -R media considerably lower than +R media. That's rapidly changed very recently to the point that 4x +R media is now equal or lower in price to the -R media. Since Pioneer is now producing a multi-function burner, I expect that -R media will never get much lower than today's prices, while +R media will continue it's downward slide. At this point in time, I would not consider buying another -R only burner as I expect the media costs to bee too high within the next year compared to +R media. I fully expect to have an 06 drive within the next 2 or 3 months when places like Staples/OfficeMax have them as loss leaders in the $125 (after coupon) price range.

 

[cheetoden]

Keep in mind that it has not yet been disproven that our A05 drives can't be flashed into an A06.

I remember reading on a firmware site that after flashing his drive to one of the hacked firmwares, a guy thought that his drive was +/- capable,but not enabled. I'm not positive about this.

The talk was that it could not be enabled by Pioneer until they liciensed the "+" technology from whoever owns it.

It sure makes developement sense to me to engineer a +/- drive and only enable "-" writing until they felt it was necessary to license the technoloy and come out with the "+" writing.

Of course, this is just a theory of mine and I'm open to other ideas also.