* GeForce 3 / NV20 : Recommended price - $699 US *

[Sunner]

I wonder if thats true, just sounds too unreasonable.
I mean really, $700, thats plain ridiculous, and surely anyone at nVidia must realize this, of course if it was intro'd at $700 and after like 2 weeks started dropping to sane levels, I guess that could be plausible, milk those few dumb people who are actually willing to shell out so much, then appeal to the not so dumb people who will "only" pay upwards of 350 bucks.

 

[The Reaper]

This is just another marketing ploy. They say it be around $600, but when it hits the shelves for $100 to $150 less everyone will be WOW WHAT A DEAL I HAVE TO GET ONE RIGHT NOW. nVidia can blow me. :|

 

[Noriaki]

<< Holy Cow - if this is true nVidia is going the way of Intel. Time for someone to kick their A$$ at lower cost! >>

Yeah...no sh*t...once again I point out the Radeon. $150US/$225CDN + shipping on their trade up offer for the Retail 64MB Vivo. 18 months ago I would have laughed at anyone considering ATi for a high end system, but 18 months before the Athlon I would have done the same for anyone considering AMD. The Retail Radeon Vivo 64MB is an excellent Deal. It's only about 1.5x the price of a GeForce2MX with 2-3x the speed, much better image quality in 2D and 3D, as well as a wealth of features the GF2MX couldn't dream of.



<< The difference between the Samsung monitor and the NV20 is the fact that it will not be obsolete in 6 months time. >>

Yup, and pair it with the above Radeon and you'll actaully have nice enough 2D to use the high resolutions with that guy



<< We all need to remember that nVidia always like to segment their markets into 3 basic categories: High end (the Ultra), Middle end (the GTS / pro) and the Low end (MX). >>

Only problem there....we had the TNT, then the next gen we had TNT2 Vanta (low), TNT2/TNT2Pro (mid), TNT2 Ultra (high). Then we had the GeForce256, then the next gen we had GF2MX (low), GTS/Pro (mid), Ultra (high). Now we have the NV20...if nVidia follows form, then on the next generation we will see the split.

I suppose there was two models of the GF-256, but even the SDR wasn't really cheap...



<< With this marketing strategy in mind, then in theory, this rumoured price if it actually happens, will not last for long. All companies like to financially rape the early adopters. And, again, if this rumoured price is true, then yes, the early adopters will be paying a lot of money for a fast video card. But, give it a month or two and the price will inevitably come down. >>

That's true enough. But the price is still insane.

 

[BenSkywalker]

Fozzie- Exactly what I was thinking

 

[bluemax]

<< Do you know how many hoes I could get for $700? >>



Probably 50 or so, but how much gardening do you really do? 50 hoes will till a lot of soil...
Go talk to John Deere about a better solution.


As to the $699, like we ever pay retail price for anything. Even at $499, though, it's still a LOUSY deal!
When will the Xbox be available? I lost interest until now...

 

[shabby]

Guys dont worry, im opening up a new service/website www.nvidia-loans.com and ill be able to provide you a loan with low low intrest if you'd like to purchase nvidia based graphic cards from our online store.

Now your dreams of owning the most expensive video card on the block will come true!

 

[Biggs]

<< The Geforce 3 will run at 200 MHz and will use 460 MHz memory (230 MHz DDR). >>



I hate this trend when they release a much slower new generation card and upgrade it later for a second, pro, and ultra version. But considering the price, who cares? Damn, Matrox has gotta release GXXX-something!

 

[HawkeyeColt]

I remember a few years back paying 699 for an Imagine #9 4MB and about 6 years ago paying 800 big ones for 16MB of ram.. LOL I've always been an early adopter. Always had to have the lastest and greatest now not tomorrow. Not this time though.. I think I'll stick with my GForce Ultra until it dies

 

[Smith]

I agree with all the posts here about the cost of this card. I was considering this as an upgrade for my GF DDR. If the price was high but then came down to 400 max I'd still consider it.

I'm interested in the benchmarks and reviews. I may sit 3 to 6 months waiting for stable drivers, good/bad reviews, and the price to drop. If it doesn't drop then I guess I'll consider Radeon or an AMD 1.2ghz. I'm not in any hurry and most of should not be either, you already have a nice system that can run rings around the crap they sell at Best Buy ect.

Duuno, it's like gazing into a crystal ball. At any rate nVidia is letting down a good market...the do-it-yourself builder/gamer. I'm one and proud of it as long as it's economical and is fun. If nVidia only cares now about high priced cards for high profits then they will be going down the same road as 3dfx. We, the consumer can make that happen with the way we spend our $$$.

 

[Noriaki]

Damn it, I think I want to cry.

I just read Anand's Win2k driver performance....the Radeon is still spotty at best

With 3dfx (and S3 lol) dead, and Matrox stuck at G4x0...Radeon has poor Win2k drivers still....nVidia is my only choice left....

*Sighs* I guess it's a GTS for me...

Edit: hmmm maybe I should wait until september...make my Voodoo3 a full 24 months. The next cycle nVidia has to release an NV21 (GF2MX was NV11) or something...for the &quot;low-end&quot;...

 

[JellyBaby]

Well if nothing else these threads prove people can still get worked up over vid. cards even with 3dfx out of the picture.

 

[Noriaki]

Jelly, there is always ATi to take 3dfx's place.

I'm not a brand bigot, I'm just annoyed by the price. I want to replace my old Voodoo3 with anything suitable, I don't care who makes it as long as it meets my needs. 3dfx is dead, Matrox is moving sideways not forwards, and ATi has poor Win2k drivers still. nVidia is really my only choice, but if they are this kinda money...:|

 

[jeffrey]

What is the memory bus???????
Do we have a 256-bit bus, yes or no?
Geeze everything is starting to get leaked except for that!

 

[Bluga]

no we only get 128 bit bus.

 

[EMAN]

and ATi has poor Win2k drivers still

A lot of the Radeon owners said the win2k drivers are fine. I don't know why Anand wrote such article.

 

[randypj]

Please to buy several. My portfolio thanks you. NVDA....still making a nice profit.
--Randy

 

[JellyBaby]

<< Jelly, there is always ATi to take 3dfx's place. >>

Noriaki,

True but ATi is the diet coke of 3d cards. And Matrox has all but vanished. Eventually competition will return but it could be a long time in coming.

 

[Noriaki]

<< A lot of the Radeon owners said the win2k drivers are fine. I don't know why Anand wrote such article >>

I believe Anand used the latest retail drivers, and did not use Special Purpose. Which is the same as I would do. So I consider it valid, for me personally.

 

[bjc112]

jaypetal.. i am only 16, if nvidia thinks i am selling my kidney's to buy their stuff. they are CRAZY.. this makes me want to sell my mx and get a radeon.!

 

[bjc112]

guys, i think i got new idea..
we can just sell our computers we have now.. just buy the card..( and then have no where to put it) Nvidia Sucks.. i hope they go down the tubes now.!

 

[noxipoo]

have any of you actually looked at sites that list gf3 preorders? the asus was i saw was $570 and some other brand i saw was about $500. not $700. granted $500 is still too much

 

[CigarSmokedByClinton]

boy, this is a ressurected thread.....

 

[NOX]

Don't believe it will be that much anymore (could be wrong ).

BTW, last time I checked my G400 has 360MHz Ramdac.

 

[xyyz]

<< does everyone here really think that chips as advanced as the upcoming nv20 are really cheap to research and develop then tape out successfully? not to mention creating a working silicon board equipped with the fastest DDR ram available known to man? >>



Oh boo hoo hoo.... this is the same argument that the super greedy pharmaceutical use when they say &quot;but the first pill had a cost of $400 million&quot; So they feel they can charge us $100 for a pill that costs them about $0.03 to produce. If all those medications actually costed that much they'd be well out of business... so something isn't right.

Are you working for nVidia or something? We are consumers, we feel that they are being unresonable. I bet if someone were to pull the cost of reseaching this chip they'd find nVidia didn't spend a tremendous amound researching this &quot;revolutionary technology.&quot;



<< also to the ppl who argue about the entire X-Box being cheaper than the upcoming geforce3 cards need to realize this...Nvidia doesnt recieve any royalties for games that are designed for the NV20...it doesnt charge any liscensing fees....unlike consoles who recoup their hardware losses thru software Nvidia has no such thing... >>



I'd love to see an article that claims this... Even if it's true... I guess nVidia feels more appropriate for nVidia to rape it's loyal customers than to piss off MS by asking them for the money instead.

 

[xyyz]

<< guys, i think i got new idea..
we can just sell our computers we have now.. just buy the card..( and then have no where to put it) Nvidia Sucks.. i hope they go down the tubes now.! >>



We can plug it in that fat AGP slot up the nVidia president's a$$. Let him knows how it feels to be raped.