Geforce 304.48 Beta drivers up

[lavaheadache]

Somehow my original post got posted 5 hours before I posted it.... the forums are weird tonight



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Originally Posted by toyota
what resolution are you running because Crysis 1 only runs at 50fps with vsync anyway in DX10 at 1920x1080? / qoute



there is a work around for the 50 fps issue at 1080p.

For the life of me I can't remember how but way back in the day after much frustration I was able to remedy it. Wish I could remember how.


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[cmdrdredd]

For the crysis 1080p issue we resigned ourselves to switching to window mode (alt-tab) then back.

 

[toyota]

For the crysis 1080p issue we resigned ourselves to switching to window mode (alt-tab) then back.

that does not fix Crysis 1 DX10 1080 50 fps issue.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I have found the more testing of these new drivers and my cards i do,the more better off i am disabling vsync.

Can't be to bothered having raw numbers being held off at 60fps while half the time still stuttering like i am running at 45fps,i noticed this today in BC2 and i just freaking quit playing cause it was irritating.

I honestly believe the more the stupid boost clocks jump up and down on these cards,the more likely the god damn video game stutters.

 

[Gordon Freemen]

that does not fix Crysis 1 DX10 1080 50 fps issue.

That's all well and good for the 3 to 5% that can actually run Crysis above 30fps min but you guys always seem to think you are the only gamers in the world when you are the minority thanx

 

[blackened23]

That's all well and good for the 3 to 5% that can actually run Crysis above 30fps min but you guys always seem to think you are the only gamers in the world when you are the minority thanx

How is this comment relevant to the discussion?

 

[toyota]

That's all well and good for the 3 to 5% that can actually run Crysis above 30fps min but you guys always seem to think you are the only gamers in the world when you are the minority thanx

if you have nothing helpful or useful to say on the topic then why even post? many people here do have comps capable of running the game at 60 fps so its nice to have the game not be stuck at 50 fps.

 

[blackened23]

Toyota, did you try "prefer maximum performance" in the control panel? That helped greatly for me with 301.42, but 304 beta fixes this issue for me in most (but not all) games. Thats if you're still getting vsync stutter, it sounds like the crysis 2 issue is a separate one.

What CDR said about the alt enter thing worked for me a long time ago, but I want to say there was a patch that fixed this issue. In the past swapping between windowed and fullscreen would fix it, but it sounds like you've tried that. Also: try disabling motion blur, see if that eliminates the issue.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I have found the more testing of these new drivers and my cards i do,the more better off i am disabling vsync.

Can't be to bothered having raw numbers being held off at 60fps while half the time still stuttering like i am running at 45fps,i noticed this today in BC2 and i just freaking quit playing cause it was irritating.

I honestly believe the more the stupid boost clocks jump up and down on these cards,the more likely the god damn video game stutters.

I don't see boost jump around. It's either 1240 or 1230 depending on what's going on at the time. I think you're on SLI if I remember right though? You might see different behavior.

 

[blackened23]

I don't see boost jump around. It's either 1240 or 1230 depending on what's going on at the time. I think you're on SLI if I remember right though? You might see different behavior.

Here's what happened in some games with vsync turned on:

--Game is at 60 fps with vsync.

--Kepler says, oh I have power to spare, lets downclock a bit.

--Kepler downclocks.

--FPS goes below 60 for a split second.

--Vsync stutter occurs.

--Meanwhile, if you had vsync turned off the framerate could be something absurd like 200 fps. So if you had vsync on you'd get weird dips to 45-50 fps but you'd get 200 fps with vsync off. This happened to me in diablo 3, WoW, darksiders, SR3, and a few other games. It didn't happen in all games though, didn't happen in crysis 2 or bf3. I wanna say it mostly happened in older games with ridiculously high framerates.

This happens in specific games, it didn't happen in all titles - the new beta resolved most of the stutter for me. Some are still reporting it though.

 

[toyota]

prefer maximum performance has nothing to do with the framerate issue though. all it does is keep the game from dropping below base clocks which has nothing to do with what I see going on.

 

[blackened23]

So you tried it ?

It definitely fixed hitching for me in some games with 301.42. Dunno.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Here's what happened in some games with vsync turned on:

--Game is at 60 fps with vsync.

--Kepler says, oh I have power to spare, lets downclock a bit.

--Kepler downclocks.

--FPS goes below 60 for a split second.

--Vsync stutter occurs.

--Meanwhile, if you had vsync turned off the framerate could be something absurd like 200 fps. So if you had vsync on you'd get weird dips to 45-50 fps but you'd get 200 fps with vsync off. This happened to me in diablo 3, WoW, darksiders, SR3, and a few other games. It didn't happen in all games though, didn't happen in crysis 2 or bf3. I wanna say it mostly happened in older games with ridiculously high framerates.

This happens in specific games, it didn't happen in all titles - the new beta resolved most of the stutter for me. Some are still reporting it though.

People on Guru3d reported that boost clocks did not change but the fps dropped down from 60 to 58 or so and they lost the smooth image (it stuttered). It wasn't the card dropping clock speeds. It was directly related to how the drivers handled vsync. They also reported it happening in almost every title.

I can't say I ever really experienced it that badly though. Maybe some of it was overblown, maybe not. I can't say.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I don't see boost jump around. It's either 1240 or 1230 depending on what's going on at the time. I think you're on SLI if I remember right though? You might see different behavior.

Disabling vsync fixs the stuttering,and my cards never see even 1202 half the time,then again every game runs fine if vsync is disabled so i give up on the vsync issue completely.

My boost clocks jump from the mid 900's to most times about 1189 as a ultimate high with the rare occasion of hitting 1202,but there isn't any current titles really pushing these cards to 1230 right now cause the demand isn't there i guess?

 

[blackened23]

People on Guru3d reported that boost clocks did not change but the fps dropped down from 60 to 58 or so and they lost the smooth image (it stuttered). It wasn't the card dropping clock speeds. It was directly related to how the drivers handled vsync.

In my case, the stutter was related to downclocking. I have the msi AB overlay on all the time so I can see the clocks varying. I'm not sure what others report and really don't care, but this is what caused it for me. Vsync turned off removed all stuttering because the clockspeeds remained more consistent between gpu1/gpu2 instead of dipping to say, 800-900 in certain games with vsync on.

*this discussion is somewhat moot, i'm discussing what happened with 301.42. It was definitely related to downclocking FOR ME (not sure why you're arguing about the cause) Anyway, most of the games were fixed with beta 304.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I will tell you, I had precision running many times but I generally don't run it as I find the numbers distracting. I saw the fps drop, but never experienced any stutter. My clocks were solid. People said they got stutter with solid clocks and I remember you mentioning what you're saying before.

However, you and skipsneeky are on SLI. Your cards are sharing the work and it is very possible that many games with vsync on are not filling the cards with work so they will change clock speed. I'm on a single card and it's locked. Again I do believe SLI plays a significant role because you guys say the same thing, boost clocks are dynamic. Mine doesn't seem to be because my single card is pretty busy most of the time. As a result, I believe but can't be sure that SLI is causing some of the stuttering with vsync because the cards are not locked at high enough boost clocks and the slight delay from say 900 to 1030 is going to be noticed in the moving image.

I could be way off though.

 

[toyota]

So you tried it ?

It definitely fixed hitching for me in some games with 301.42. Dunno.

even Nvidia themselves said 1-2 fps drop issue was completely unrelated to boost speeds.

 

[blackened23]

even Nvidia themselves said 1-2 fps drop issue was completely unrelated to boost speeds.

Whatever bro. I'm just trying to help you out. If you tried it and it didn't work, its all good.

It definitely eliminated framerate hitching for me in several games including WoW which would hitch to 40 fps with vsync turned on. Prefer maximum performance fixed it. and it was definitely related to gpu clocks in my case.

Anyway, disregard: note to self don't try to help toyota.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I wonder...am I the only one who always turns the option to prefer max performance?

 

[toyota]

Whatever bro. I'm just trying to help you out. If you tried it and it didn't work, its all good.

It definitely eliminated framerate hitching for me in several games including WoW which would hitch to 40 fps with vsync turned on. Prefer maximum performance fixed it. and it was definitely related to gpu clocks in my case.

Anyway, disregard: note to self don't try to help toyota.

no need for attitude. I am just saying 100% that my issue, which is the issue Nvidia was trying to fix, has nothing to do with clock speeds.

 

[Jaydip]

DP

 

[toyota]

I wonder...am I the only one who always turns the option to prefer max performance?

I see no point. again all that technically does is keep you from dropping below base clocks in undemanding scenarios.

 

[Jaydip]

I wonder...am I the only one who always turns the option to prefer max performance?

Nah sign me too

 

[skipsneeky2]

Doubt many people are that green when it comes to high end graphics cards,i would take a 300w tdp if it just opened up a large performance gain,instead of downclocking,locked tdp and limited overclocking.

I tend to keep my cards stock clocked and keep maximum performance enabled on the power options,it works really good if vsync is disabled.

 

[fc0712]

is the beta stable, and what could be the risk about using this beta?