Geforce 470 not working (short circuit?)

[Niflheim]

gentlemen.

so i just received my geforce gtx 470.

i plugged it in, then booted. i installed the drivers, rebooted and it worked for about 10 minutes before the computer shut down.

and now, i can't start my computer if the card is plugged.
more precisely, it does not start only when the rightmost 6-pin is plugged (there are two 6-pin on the card).
if i plug none of them, the computer starts, but obviously the display does not work, same thing if i only plug the 6-pin on the left.

when i replug my geforce 260, everything works just fine with the two 6-pin, so it must be the card.

anything i can do other than send it the hell back?

if it's the only way, do you recommend any other card that could be a good upgrade from my geforce 260? i know about nvidia, but don't know anything about radeons cards.

thanks



so yeah, got a geforce gtx 460 not working, windows 7, 4 gb of ram, 600W psu.

 

[happy medium]

Well ,it happens man. Sometimes you just get unlucky.

 

[MentalIlness]

Send it back, pick up a 5850. Unless you feel you want to take a chance on another one.

What brand and where did you purchase it ?

Edit: Exactly what PSU do you have ?

 

[thilanliyan]

Send it back to the store and get a replacement.

 

[toyota]

what is the exact model of power supply and what are the details of the rest of your system?

 

[Keysplayr]

When a computer just shuts down out of nowhere, that is a tell tale sign that the Power Supply isn't enough to power the system. As Toyota has asked, we need the exact make and model of your Power Supply.

 

[Niflheim]

the power supply is a OCZ stealthxstream ocz600sxs.
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82e16817341010

you think it could only be that the psu is not good enough?

for the card, it's recommended at least 550w, so with 600w the computer should at least start. i've been running my geforce 260 (500w recommended) on a 430w and never had any problem.

i bought both from tigerdirect.ca, but the PSU was refurbished.

mobo : asus p5k se
cpu : e6600

 

[toyota]

you bought a gtx470 for use with a stock e6600?

 

[Seero]

It may be the PSU

 

[Avalon]

Well, the PSU is definitely enough to power that GTX470, unless it is defective (you did note it was refurbished). It's either that or the card is bad and needs to be returned for replacement. Without any additional hardware to play with for testing, the easiest thing to do is return the card for replacement and see how that one works out.

 

[FalseChristian]

I had the exact same problem with 1 of my 8800GT. The card is dead. RMA it.

 

[Borealis7]

well he says the board powers up when the card isnt plugged in so it sounds to me like a bad card. time to replace it.

and the ATI 5850 or 5870 would both be much faster than the GTX 260.

 

[toyota]

well with a stock E6600 he isnt even fully pushing that gtx260 as it is especially in more cpu intensive games. a gtx470, 5850 or better would really have quite a bit of its potential wasted on an older 2.4 core 2 duo.

 

[Keysplayr]

"you bought a gtx470 for use with a stock e6600?"

"well with a stock E6600 he isnt even fully pushing that gtx260 as it is especially in more cpu intensive games. a gtx470, 5850 or better would really have quite a bit of its potential wasted on an older 2.4 core 2 duo."

Focus Toyota. This isn't about what CPU the OP has. Why are you even going there?

 

[Ares202]

Focus Toyota. This isn't about what CPU the OP has. Why are you even going there?

Toyota can sniff out a thread with a potential bottleneck from a mile away

 

[Attic]

Sounds to me like the PSU may be faulty or incapable of driving the 470.

Never been a fan of OCZ stuff, they don't make the best quality PSU's.

 

[Russwinters]

Make sure you are evenly distributing the 12v rails on those PSUS,


OCZ likes to use the multi rail 12V, so you need to make sure your using connectors from each RAIL, even then I think the 600w only provide 18AMPS on each rail, so with 2 connections thats 26AMP, plus whatever the PCI express lane can provide.


Factor in PSU degradation, heat, etc.


Could def be the PSU.

 

[MrK6]

Toyota can sniff out a thread with a potential bottleneck from a mile away

Beseeching Our Toyota, This Loathsome Experience Necessitates Extensive Computing Knowledge



D)

 

[Niflheim]

gentlemen.

thank you for checking that with me.

i've contacted evga and they say that i need 38 amps on the +12V rails (actually, my psu says +12V1, +12V2, +12V3 and +12V4 all give 18 amps), so with 2 6-pin plugged it only makes 36 (not 26 ) amps?.

so that's it? i miss 2 amperes?

well i'll be damned.

and by the way, my cpu is slightly overclocked and pretty aged and is the next thing on my upgrade list

 

[Keysplayr]

No, 38Amps is the MAX theoretical draw of the card at FULL power, and it may never reach that in any games.
Are you certain that each PCI-e plug is using it's own rail? Or is there a splitter somewhere we don't know about?

 

[Niflheim]

hmm well i did some tests, trying with every rails and connectors and adaptators.
and it's always the same : if anything is plugged in the right 6-pin on the card, it does not work (the computer like starts for 0.001 sec, just the time for my cpu fan to light up then stop).

requesting RMA nao.

so thanks a lot again guys.
you are pretty people.

 

[Seero]

When pc suddenly power down, or fail to power on, then it probably due to PSU, followed by mobo. If a PCI-E, CPU, or RAM died, the system will simply not boot( no beeb after power on and nothing on screen).

I have used 2 OCZ PSU and they tend to break after about 3 years of use. They don't just died completely, but they tend to produce less watt. In other words, they wear down very fast.

If you are going to keep 470 knowing that your current PSU isn't good enough, why not just get a new PSU and try it out?

 

[SHAQ]

I doubt the PSU would cause it to not boot at all. The 470 doesn't use that much power at idle. His 260 works fine so it is a bad 470. I had a 260 that worked for the same length of time before it died. The OP would be better off keeping his 260 and using that $350 on a CPU/mobo upgrade though.

 

[shangshang]

good - RMA the card
better - return the card if you can and upgrade your CPU first