GeForce 6 series video processor OFFICIAL THREAD

[gururu]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: gururu
does the box on 6800-based products claim hardware-based decoding? if it does, then its going to be a long hard road. if they don't, then there is not much to do about it. i think nowadays, cpus are so fast that gpu video isn't really necessary

Your right. CPUs are just so bloody fast these days, that no hardware acceleration is needed, for anything.
Why don't you just rip out your 3D card, and stick in a nice 2D-only card, like a Matrox Millenium, and play Doom3 and FarCry on that. I mean, who cares if the hardware acceleration works or not. Everyone who wants to get and use what they paid for, is really just an annoying whiner, right?

Well, when you respond like that, I have to think so. I was merely trying to say that this situation is not
that bad. I'm not saying to go hide under a rock. But lashing out towards people with objective (I'm not a 6800 owner) is not cool. Would you rather have me as an ATI owner laugh at you and say what a fool you are for getting screwed by nVidia?

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: gururu
, so aside from principle, I don't see such a big deal. I think it is a poor reflection on nVidia. My gut tells me that there must be a fix, even though sites are claiming hardware or silicin defect. We'll have to hear from them. Maybe they'll offer some free video decoder cards.

My knowledge of the industry, and of the current fierce competition in this market forcing companies to "paper launch" products before they are ready, along with the complexity-level of the chip involved, tells me that it is highly likely that the hardware itself is simply FUBAR.

Again, we have to wait for the official word or for a more complete analysis via a dedicated article by a respectful website. People are freaking out too soon. If Rollo is right, a lot of this is much ado about nothing. That its taken so damn long for nVidia to get it working is pretty shameful, but isn't the important thing that they do get it working?

 

[Chippy99]

WMV9 HD decode acceleration is just enabled in drivers from NVIDIA. Microsoft has to release a software update for Windows Media Player 10 to enable this. Or in short - the hardware is ready to do its thing, but requires Microsoft to issue a software update for WMP 10.

I don't buy this excuse for 1 minute.

If we are waiting for a WMP10 update, then why does it also not work in Nero Showcase, DIVX Player, or any other media player you care to test.

The only thing that could possibly affect this is the CODEC. If they mean you need a new CODEC, then possibly. But to blame it on WMP10 is frankly quite ridiculous.

Chip

 

[theslug]

Originally posted by: Chippy99

WMV9 HD decode acceleration is just enabled in drivers from NVIDIA. Microsoft has to release a software update for Windows Media Player 10 to enable this. Or in short - the hardware is ready to do its thing, but requires Microsoft to issue a software update for WMP 10.

I don't buy this excuse for 1 minute.

If we are waiting for a WMP10 update, then why does it also not work in Nero Showcase, DIVX Player, or any other media player you care to test.

The only thing that could possibly affect this is the CODEC. If they mean you need a new CODEC, then possibly. But to blame it on WMP10 is frankly quite ridiculous.

Chip

That would make more sense..technically any player should be able to play the file (like media player classic), so long as the codec is installed and if the player is able to recognize that codec.

 

[newone]

i want to know:


how is nvidia testing there OWN geforce6 cards?

they must have a driver or something else...for a long time ago...

but when the chip not works... no driver will fix it.

 

[Genx87]

I heard they are working on a work 'a' round in the drivers that will use the pixel shaders ala R3.xx\R4.xx ?

Is this true?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I heard they are working on a work 'a' round in the drivers that will use the pixel shaders ala R3.xx\R4.xx ?

Is this true?

All I've seen on it so far is what Anand mentioned and that was alluded to in the tech report snipet

NVIDIA also confirmed to us that NV40-based cards do "load balancing" between the video processor and pixel shaders for some video processing tasks, although we didn't get into the nuts and bolts of which computations were handled by the CPU, the video processor, and the pixel shaders. That's just for decoding, as far as I know. Anand did a nice write-up about this problem, and he said that NVIDIA wouldn't answer his questions about whether the NV40 will do any hardware encoding.

As to the comment made about overreacting/freaking out, I do not believe I have done any such thing. The PVP was promoted as having many capabilities, thus far some of them do not work. I hadn't seen any real coverage of the topic, and with some of the other members here undertook to determine wether each subsequent beta release of drivers would enable the function. In the course of this testing in which a fair number of members have participated, we determined it is not active as of yet. We then began to e-mail our manufacturers and ask hardware reviewers to assist in our efforts to get some answers. So far every response from a manufacturer or nV PR rep. has pointed to the PVP on the 6800 series lacking the functionality promoted beforehand.

Now, Rollo says he spoke to a friend employed by nV and that he assured him it is functional and that drivers and a software update to MP10 will enble support. He has always been a man of his word with me so I take his input seriously and hope the information proves accurate. Should it do so I will gladly retract my accusations and apologize for my being a ring leader in this whole fiasco. I will however maintain that my vocal behavior was still warranted due to a lack of new information provided by any source about when to expect the feature to be enabled, the testing@several sites performed which seems to support the theory that while the PVP is borked on the 6800series the 6600 series works, and the rather lenghty period of time between pre-ordering and recieving my product and now with no real progess in this area.

Thanks to our rather vocal minority, hardware and related news sites are beginning to take an active interest in this matter. I simply do not understand how this can be a bad thing. You don't use the feature, fine, but please desist in your criticisms of our efforts to find answers to a very real issue for those of us whom are effected by it, by waving it off as inconsequential or implying it is our fault for being early adopters of a non-beta retail product.

 

[bpt8056]

The tech report reports that no driver or software will fix the borked video processor: Link

NVIDIA has stated that the NV40 doesn't have WMV capabilities in their official response so nothing leads me to believe that a simple update in WMP10 or updated drivers will fix this problem.

Rollo, your buddy says one thing while NVIDIA says another. I am wondering if he is speaking of the 6200/6600 series and not the 6800. Could you check with him again? Thanks.

 

[VIAN]

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19314

I found this, hope it's not a repeat.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: VIAN
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19314

I found this, hope it's not a repeat.

Yes, it is, but we won't hold it against you Vian. After that article, I had posted back to the author and he said he is looking into it still.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Genx87
I heard they are working on a work 'a' round in the drivers that will use the pixel shaders ala R3.xx\R4.xx ?

Is this true?

All I've seen on it so far is what Anand mentioned and that was alluded to in the tech report snipet

NVIDIA also confirmed to us that NV40-based cards do "load balancing" between the video processor and pixel shaders for some video processing tasks, although we didn't get into the nuts and bolts of which computations were handled by the CPU, the video processor, and the pixel shaders. That's just for decoding, as far as I know. Anand did a nice write-up about this problem, and he said that NVIDIA wouldn't answer his questions about whether the NV40 will do any hardware encoding.

As to the comment made about overreacting/freaking out, I do not believe I have done any such thing. The PVP was promoted as having many capabilities, thus far some of them do not work. I hadn't seen any real coverage of the topic, and with some of the other members here undertook to determine wether each subsequent beta release of drivers would enable the function. In the course of this testing in which a fair number of members have participated, we determined it is not active as of yet. We then began to e-mail our manufacturers and ask hardware reviewers to assist in our efforts to get some answers. So far every response from a manufacturer or nV PR rep. has pointed to the PVP on the 6800 series lacking the functionality promoted beforehand.

Now, Rollo says he spoke to a friend employed by nV and that he assured him it is functional and that drivers and a software update to MP10 will enble support. He has always been a man of his word with me so I take his input seriously and hope the information proves accurate. Should it do so I will gladly retract my accusations and apologize for my being a ring leader in this whole fiasco. I will however maintain that my vocal behavior was still warranted due to a lack of new information provided by any source about when to expect the feature to be enabled, the testing@several sites performed which seems to support the theory that while the PVP is borked on the 6800series the 6600 series works, and the rather lenghty period of time between pre-ordering and recieving my product and now with no real progess in this area.

Thanks to our rather vocal minority, hardware and related news sites are beginning to take an active interest in this matter. I simply do not understand how this can be a bad thing. You don't use the feature, fine, but please desist in your criticisms of our efforts to find answers to a very real issue for those of us whom are effected by it, by waving it off as inconsequential or implying it is our fault for being early adopters of a non-beta retail product.

Quit yelling about nothing Punisher!
Sorry to impy this is meaningless, no offense intended.

As I am a person who doesn't use/study the impact of the presence or lack of cpu offload for hardware encode/decode, could you please enlighten me?

Is it a matter of "With gpu acceleration, encoding this file would have taken 5 minutes instead of 6" or is it more along the line of double/triple/quadruple the time?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: bpt8056
The tech report reports that no driver or software will fix the borked video processor: Link

NVIDIA has stated that the NV40 doesn't have WMV capabilities in their official response so nothing leads me to believe that a simple update in WMP10 or updated drivers will fix this problem.

Rollo, your buddy says one thing while NVIDIA says another. I am wondering if he is speaking of the 6200/6600 series and not the 6800. Could you check with him again? Thanks.

This is the email I sent him, so he couldn't have been referring to anything but 6800s:

"However, the GeForce 6600 models also include hardware acceleration for
high-definition Windows Media Video (WMV) decode"
What about this aspect of it? It's being said on the boards this is an admission there is no hardware acceleration of WMV on 6800s?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Rollo
As I am a person who doesn't use/study the impact of the presence or lack of cpu offload for hardware encode/decode, could you please enlighten me?

Is it a matter of "With gpu acceleration, encoding this file would have taken 5 minutes instead of 6" or is it more along the line of double/triple/quadruple the time?

Who knows? There is so much conflicting information, promotional claims, and testing results that I cannot begin to address such questions. I read some very positive promotional material that lead me to believe that when I purchased a 6800GT I was going to have unprecedented capabilities thanks to the dedicated programmable video processor, I am still waiting Perhaps some of the fault is my own for buying the hype and expecting to already enjoy some tangible benefits? For myself it boils down to this; The card is a great gamer, and had they never hyped the PVP I would have been contented with that, but they pushed the decoding&encoding capabilities rather hard, and now months have passed without any of the benefits emerging. I suppose in my case it is a matter of a equal and opposite reaction.

 

[gururu]

my opinion on the 6800GT being the second best video product available does not change (the first being the x800xt).

Hate the company, not the product.

 

[aonic]

http://www.petitiononline.com/nv4g6800/petition.html

Sign this if you have a 6800

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: aonic
http://www.petitiononline.com/nv4g6800/petition.html

Sign this if you have a 6800

149 as of my signing.

:thumbsup:

 

[gururu]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: aonic
http://www.petitiononline.com/nv4g6800/petition.html

Sign this if you have a 6800

149 as of my signing.

:thumbsup:

pretty cool guys
:thumbsup:

 

[Atif]

It appears as though nVidia is sending its board partners a memo about the Video Processor to clarify what's going on with it (I suppose this vocal show of disgust has done something already). Below you'll find some bits of information that I got from a conversation with a kind BFG Technician.

First, I asked him outright does the video processor on the NV40 work? To this he responded that yes, the processor does work, however, the memo from nVidia says end-users must download an updated ForceWare driver (to be made available at the end of November) and, when applicable, a Windows Media Player update from Microsoft, to make use of the processor's functions.

Just to be sure we're talking about the same product during our conversation I then clarified with him that this new driver would enable the Video Processor on the 6800-series AGP cards, to which his reply was '6800 AGP, or PCI-Express and 6600 AGP or PCI-Express, the bus doesn't matter, the feature is in the GPU.'

I'm not too sure that he was keen on my asking this question because of the rumor that earlier NV4x silicon (as found on AGP 6800s) has a defective Video Processor, but nonetheless, he told me before we started talking that he'd be drawing his information from this nVidia memo, nothing else.

I decided to ask about MPEG-2 decoding first, because it isn't as 'sticky' a situation as that of WMV9 HD seems to be. "Is nVidia DVD Decoder required to make use of the Video Processor for MPEG-2 content, or can any DVD playback software make use of the Processor?" His response: No, "for MPEG-2 decode only, any application built on DirectShow can take advantage of the hardware decode on the 6800 and 6600 as long as they access the hardware through DirectX Video Acceleration. WinDVD, for example, can take advantage of nVidia's hardware decode." (he read that off the memo to me)

Since this memo mentions nothing about the NV40 Video Processor being defective/broken, I asked him if this memo specified WMV9 HD decoding as a feature of the NV40 VP. Here was what he found on the memo relating to each series:

6800: "support for high-definition MPEG-2 video decode and standard definition MPEG-2 decode"
6600: "hardware acceleration for high-definition Windows Media decode"

Now, I asked him if there was any particular reason why the memo didn't particularly specify WMV9 HD hardware decoding as a feature of the 6800 series, but did so for the 6600 series. He suggested that perhaps nVidia forgot to list the 6800 with this feature specifically, since it wouldn't make sense that the high-end part wouldn't have this feature.

Next, I asked him "what additional software (if any) would be needed to use the hardware decoding features of the Video Processor for WMV9 HD content?" He read me exactly what was stated on the memo to answer this question: "for Windows Media Video decode on the 6600 models, end-users will need to download an update to Windows Media Player from Microsoft."

I was seeing an eerie pattern here: any time WMV9 HD came up, the memo seemed to redirect discussion to the 6600. I wanted to clarify that what he had told me earlier still applied, so I asked him the following again:

Atif: "I'm sorry, I've gone over this several times now, but I just want to be sure: once this driver comes out, it will allow for that hardware decoding of WMV9 high-definition content on the 6800 series as well?"
BFG Technician: "Yes"
Atif: "And that's regardless of if i have an AGP version or PCI-Express version?"
BFG Technician: "Yeah, cause it's just... it's a part of the GPU, the bus doesn't matter"
Atif: "Is there any particular reason why nVidia didn't enable the video processor from the start, or to begin with?"
BFG Technician: "No, I wouldn't know the answer to that, I have no idea why."


My own reflection on the conversation: it seems as though WMV9 HD hardware decoding is introduced with the 6600 series cards, not the 6800 series. HOWEVER, the vagaries of the memo gave the tech the impression that the 6800 will support any/all the features available on lower model GPUs once this ForceWare driver is made available at the end of next month. I cannot provide my own opinion as of yet simply because he was unable to fax me a copy of this memo or go on record and read the entire memo to me.

Nonetheless, I will be speaking with someone from nVidia directly tomorrow morning (was scheduled for today but had to reschedule). Below you will find the questions I will be asking nVidia. If you feel that something else needs to be asked, please e-mail it to me and I'll try my best to ask your question as well.

1.) Does the Video Processor on the NV40 (GeForce 6800 AGP) support hardware decoding of WMV9 HD content?
2.) If the answer to 1.) is yes, when will a driver be made available for Windows XP that enables this support?
3.) If the answer to 1.) is no, which GeForce products support WMV9 HD decoding in hardware? Is there a particular reason why the Video Processor on the NV40 does not support WMV9 HD content?
4.) What additional software (if any) would be needed to use the hardware decoding features of the Video Processor for WMV9 HD content?
5.) Is MPEG-4 and MPEG-2 (DVD) content decoded in hardware by the Video Processor on the NV40?
6.) Is additional software (if any) needed to use the hardware decoding features of the NV40 Video Processor for MPEG-4 content?
7.) Is nVidia DVD Decoder required to make use of the Video Processor for MPEG-2 content, or can any DVD playback software make use of the Processor?

Peace

 

[bpt8056]

If he answers no to question 1, ask him if nVidia realizes that the public is actively investigating this "missing feature" in the video processor. Kindly remind him that nVidia touted WMV acceleration at the launch of the GeForce 6800 series (you might want to print a copy of the NV4X slides over at HardOCP). Ask him if nVidia has a newer revision of the NV40 that has a video processor with WMV acceleration. Thanks, I'm eager to hear back.

 

[rbV5]

As I am a person who doesn't use/study the impact of the presence or lack of cpu offload for hardware encode/decode, could you please enlighten me?

Is it a matter of "With gpu acceleration, encoding this file would have taken 5 minutes instead of 6" or is it more along the line of double/triple/quadruple the time?

Obviously reducing the load on the processor decoding video files allows you to do a couple things.

Additional Post Processing, it allows you to use resize, deinterlacing softeneing sharpening...any number of filters to increase the PQ of the video stream before it is displayed..this is particularly important for HTPC users displaying on larger screens.

Smoothly playback high bitrate video files. Video streams at high resolution require far more processing power to display than low resolution interlaced NTSC that you are used to watching on TV.

Multitasking. A very important feature for the HTPC enthusiast is the ability to perform different tasks at the same time. I have 6 tuners in my main PC, and can record 3 at the same time if one is DTV. This is important in that you use your PVR to record your shows whenever they come on. If more than 1 show takes up a particular timeslot, you don't have a conflict. If you are using most of your CPU cycles to decode a video, when your recording starts, you drop frames and your A/V gets out of sync. Anything you do on the PC...your movie stutters...damn frustrating when the card you paid good money for was supposed to reduce the CPU load by up to 95%

For encoding, its pretty obvious how encoding even NTSC resolution files can take considerable time if you've ever done it...any help to reduce the time to encode a file is a big help. Hardware acceleration can also be very helpfull when editing your files. Hardware acceleration can allow you to scroll the timeline, and edit without having to re-encode to preview your work. Adding transitions is very cumbersome when its hit or miss, with hardware accelerated timelines, you can just scrub back and forth and get everything perfect before rendering..its a huge help.

It means every bit as much to a video enthusiast to have hardware encoding/decoding support as it does for a gamer to have hardware T/L support. The 6800 was supposed to offer superior support for both.

 

[heyyoudvd]

Wait a second, WinDVD should be able to make use of the card's hardware decoder for DVD movies?

Then why does my CPU generally range from about 13% to 35% when playing dvd movies while the GPU temperature doesn't seem to increase at all?

 

[Algere]

Originally posted by: heyyoudvd
Wait a second, WinDVD should be able to make use of the card's hardware decoder for DVD movies?

Then why does my CPU generally range from about 13% to 35% when playing dvd movies while the GPU temperature doesn't seem to increase at all?

the memo from nVidia says end-users must download an updated ForceWare driver (to be made available at the end of November)

 

[Chippy99]

Originally posted by: Atif
It appears as though nVidia is sending its board partners a memo about the Video Processor to clarify what's going on with it (I suppose this vocal show of disgust has done something already). Below you'll find some bits of information that I got from a conversation with a kind BFG Technician.

First, I asked him outright does the video processor on the NV40 work? To this he responded that yes, the processor does work, however, the memo from nVidia says end-users must download an updated ForceWare driver (to be made available at the end of November) and, when applicable, a Windows Media Player update from Microsoft, to make use of the processor's functions.

Just to be sure we're talking about the same product during our conversation I then clarified with him that this new driver would enable the Video Processor on the 6800-series AGP cards, to which his reply was '6800 AGP, or PCI-Express and 6600 AGP or PCI-Express, the bus doesn't matter, the feature is in the GPU.'

I'm not too sure that he was keen on my asking this question because of the rumor that earlier NV4x silicon (as found on AGP 6800s) has a defective Video Processor, but nonetheless, he told me before we started talking that he'd be drawing his information from this nVidia memo, nothing else.

I decided to ask about MPEG-2 decoding first, because it isn't as 'sticky' a situation as that of WMV9 HD seems to be. "Is nVidia DVD Decoder required to make use of the Video Processor for MPEG-2 content, or can any DVD playback software make use of the Processor?" His response: No, "for MPEG-2 decode only, any application built on DirectShow can take advantage of the hardware decode on the 6800 and 6600 as long as they access the hardware through DirectX Video Acceleration. WinDVD, for example, can take advantage of nVidia's hardware decode." (he read that off the memo to me)

Since this memo mentions nothing about the NV40 Video Processor being defective/broken, I asked him if this memo specified WMV9 HD decoding as a feature of the NV40 VP. Here was what he found on the memo relating to each series:

6800: "support for high-definition MPEG-2 video decode and standard definition MPEG-2 decode"
6600: "hardware acceleration for high-definition Windows Media decode"

Now, I asked him if there was any particular reason why the memo didn't particularly specify WMV9 HD hardware decoding as a feature of the 6800 series, but did so for the 6600 series. He suggested that perhaps nVidia forgot to list the 6800 with this feature specifically, since it wouldn't make sense that the high-end part wouldn't have this feature.

Next, I asked him "what additional software (if any) would be needed to use the hardware decoding features of the Video Processor for WMV9 HD content?" He read me exactly what was stated on the memo to answer this question: "for Windows Media Video decode on the 6600 models, end-users will need to download an update to Windows Media Player from Microsoft."

I was seeing an eerie pattern here: any time WMV9 HD came up, the memo seemed to redirect discussion to the 6600. I wanted to clarify that what he had told me earlier still applied, so I asked him the following again:

Atif: "I'm sorry, I've gone over this several times now, but I just want to be sure: once this driver comes out, it will allow for that hardware decoding of WMV9 high-definition content on the 6800 series as well?"
BFG Technician: "Yes"
Atif: "And that's regardless of if i have an AGP version or PCI-Express version?"
BFG Technician: "Yeah, cause it's just... it's a part of the GPU, the bus doesn't matter"
Atif: "Is there any particular reason why nVidia didn't enable the video processor from the start, or to begin with?"
BFG Technician: "No, I wouldn't know the answer to that, I have no idea why."


My own reflection on the conversation: it seems as though WMV9 HD hardware decoding is introduced with the 6600 series cards, not the 6800 series. HOWEVER, the vagaries of the memo gave the tech the impression that the 6800 will support any/all the features available on lower model GPUs once this ForceWare driver is made available at the end of next month. I cannot provide my own opinion as of yet simply because he was unable to fax me a copy of this memo or go on record and read the entire memo to me.

Nonetheless, I will be speaking with someone from nVidia directly tomorrow morning (was scheduled for today but had to reschedule). Below you will find the questions I will be asking nVidia. If you feel that something else needs to be asked, please e-mail it to me and I'll try my best to ask your question as well.

1.) Does the Video Processor on the NV40 (GeForce 6800 AGP) support hardware decoding of WMV9 HD content?
2.) If the answer to 1.) is yes, when will a driver be made available for Windows XP that enables this support?
3.) If the answer to 1.) is no, which GeForce products support WMV9 HD decoding in hardware? Is there a particular reason why the Video Processor on the NV40 does not support WMV9 HD content?
4.) What additional software (if any) would be needed to use the hardware decoding features of the Video Processor for WMV9 HD content?
5.) Is MPEG-4 and MPEG-2 (DVD) content decoded in hardware by the Video Processor on the NV40?
6.) Is additional software (if any) needed to use the hardware decoding features of the NV40 Video Processor for MPEG-4 content?
7.) Is nVidia DVD Decoder required to make use of the Video Processor for MPEG-2 content, or can any DVD playback software make use of the Processor?

Peace

Great post Atif.

I would simply like to add this:

If the video decoding hardware on 6800 was working perfectly, wouldn't nVidia just want to stop all this rumour and bad publicity? Wouldn't they come straight out and issue a statement to that effect? Well I would.

I think that they have not come out and said "All the hardware is working perfectly" is very significant. I am convinced it means there is a problem, they are trying to assess whether there is any sort of workaround and they are trying to figure out what are their options.

Its clear to me that the video processor is at least partly working (which is why DVD decode is showing very low CPU usage - like maybe 4% CPU on my system). And its equally clear to me that its not completely working. They are probably trying to work out exactly what can be done with the working bits.

If they can come up with some patched driver / codec that offloads to the GPU the work that the GPU can handle (i.e. the stuff for which the hardware is not broken), then perhaps they can get the CPU utlization down to a level that will stop all the bad publicity. Maybe they will need to use the shaders too and they are frantically writing code as we speak???

I will be very interested if / how they answer your questions!

Chip


EDIT: Atif, why don't you ask this question:

"Is the Video Processor on all versions of the 6800 sold to date, working entirely in line with the design specifications, or has a flaw been discovered that affects some or all versions?"

I would word it like that for two reasons:

1. I think we need to cover off the possibililty that there might be a fixed version of the 6800. They will perhaps produce a later stepping with the bugs fixed. We need to know about *our* 6800's, not some future product.

2. We need to know whether the WMV acceleration is going to be achieved through the video processor as was originally planned, or whether they are going to try some workaround.

 

[Atif]

Okay guys, I had an opportunity to talk with somebody from nVidia this morning, you can see nVidia's official statement as well as a transcript of my conversation with the representative at my website, AtifApproved.com

Peace

 

[heyyoudvd]

Originally posted by: Algere

the memo from nVidia says end-users must download an updated ForceWare driver (to be made available at the end of November)

I got the impression that the DVD decoder should function now, while some of the other features will only function once the new drivers are released in late November. Are you sure that's not the case?

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I'm surprised it ran like that on a XP3200+ but one other member posted results like that with a similar system using a 9800Pro so whatever you guys have different than most others with that AMD CPU speed it is a good thing :beer:

Would that be me from your original PVP thread? I have now upgraded to a BFG 6800 OC. I'll add my own findings after I get my system up and running over the weekend. I barely had time to get the card in the box today before I had to leave for work.

I sure hope BFG has a way of mollifying us. I can't imagine what they could do if NV themselves is unable to make that portion of the GPU function properly.