GeForce 6 series video processor OFFICIAL THREAD

[ponyo]

It was one of those crazy stack coupons Dell deals. I got two and sold one immediately for around $100 profit and had a chance to get third one at $375 but couldn't find my other coupon in time. So this Ultra OC is really $300.

 

[slash196]

I never even knew about this feature, I never watch HD movie files, the only reason I would buy a video card is for the games...so basically what I'm saying is I don't care all that much. Anyway, just thought I'd throw my thoughts into the ring.

 

[Thermalrock]

well basically i was right and rollo was wrong.

 

[Avalon]

I'm glad I bought my $200 6800NU for gaming reasons only.
I don't mind having a broken video processor on there.
My card flies after a softmod and memory overclock ;D

 

[otispunkmeyer]

for all those who bought the 6800 for gaming or didnt no about the PVP, its not a big deal really is it? course it would of been a nice little extra to have on the side if it ever the time came u could make use of it, i do alot of divxing and as it happens im doing some tonight, but the fact that the NV40 PVP basically doesnt do anything at all still is disappointing for me.... the PVP was a big reason i went NV, and they havent delievered i feel cheated. looks like my Athlon 64 will be encoding for me for a while.....maybes ill go ati and just get a dual cpu set up instead next time,

 

[TFK]

Guys,

Don't just give up....we have the right to demand what we paid for.

I am a new member in this forum, but has been following this thread for 2 months already. IMO, countless engry has been spend pointing finger to losers like Rollo althought he surely deserves it. We should turn our anger into action.

I just contacted BFG and they basically told me to complaint that to Nvidia. BFG is not going to give us a refund or exchange. I contacted Nvidia they blamed it on BFG...how dare they? Basically, we are so screwed behind belief.

I think, again IMHO, these are what everyone should do and we have to do it together to be effective:

1) Contact your card maker about the situation. I am sure they know the problem, but they still have to feel the plain. Tell them we will boycott all their products in the future unless they do something about it. More important, tell them we will go on to every forums out there to bad month their products because they are not supporting their customers. Hopefully, they will put pressure back onto Nvidia

2) Call Nvidia about the situation. I know they are feeling a lot of heat right now because when I called them earlier, they sound very upset once I mentioned the problem. You may have a tough time getting thru, but pls keep doing it to jam their lines. The purpose is to show them there are many angry customers out there demanding their attention.

3) Contact the editor every magazines or websites you know (e.g. Max PC, HardOcp, Tom Hardware, theinquiry, etc) to express your angry about the situation

4) If you know any attonary or work for any law firm, pls ask them about the steps needed to file a class action lawsuit. Pls make sure you keep all the evidences regarding their false advistments. Once you gather the information, pls let us know.

5) Anytime you see a review on any Nivida products, go to their comment section and tell people not to buy from Nvidia because of their "screw you" policy.

6) Go to all major online retail sites like Newegg, TigerDirect and find all 6800GT and Ultra products. Go to user review and tell everyone not to buy it because of the broken video feature.


This is it. I know it sounds a bit childish, but if we all do it together, we may be able to get an attention from Nvidia and have them do something about it.

Pls let me know what you think.

:|

 

[cnjmorris]

Report the card makers and nvidia, and the retailer who sold you the card all to the Better Business Bureau.

They do not like their named filed in bad reports and you have a good chance of someone resolving your issue.

Nvidia is liable because they allowed their name to be used on the box and you had reason to believe they guarenteed the quality.

The manufacturer is liable for offering features the product you purchased did not support.

The retailer is liable for the same reason that Nvidia is... because you have a right to believe they are delivering quality products.

Lastly, if you have a lifetime warranty return your card for replacement stating that this feature does not work. If they are smart enough to know it never worked, and dumb enough to tell you this, make sure to get the name of the people who admit the product never worked as it stated it did.

 

[imported_humey]

DAPUNISHER, i read this complete thread and 1 min your pissed next you accept what nvidia have done, why you changing your story alltime, im for 1 not accepting and i hope others dont, that piss on web about the pvp been free thrown it is crap, i bought party as of this i held out on 5800/5900/590 pos cards as of this aswell as i said they were pos, the n40 was always going to be my next gpu after a great ti 4600.
The pvp was plugged as sellling point of n40 not a free or optional extra.

 

[imported_humey]

Im not done testing till i get this magical driver 70.10 to which i aint seen head or tail of yet.
I got POS nvidia decoder 30 day trial and i still hate it, its joke to use.

 

[mrwxyz]

so will future 6800gt and ultras have a fully functional unit? if so, then we defenitaly have the rite to exchange our old for the new.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: TFK
Guys, Don't just give up....we have the right to demand what we paid for. We should turn our anger into action.

You forgot one item: If you purchased your card from a local retailer, contact your state's AG (attorney generals) office, they are the official legal office on a state gov't level, to handle consumer fraud complaints. You need to spell things out for them, and make it very clear about:
1) how the product was advertised, both by the mfg, and the branded vendor, in terms of the features and functionality that would be provided by the card
2) what the current situation is, in terms of the lack of the advertised functionality being provided by the card you purchased, both by the branded vendor out-of-the-box, as well as mfg-provided updated drivers

I would probably phrase the complaint along the line of misleading and deceptive advertising, which led to your purchase, and that you still don't have the advertised functionality, and based on the current state of affairs with the recent announcement, that you likely never will.

It may or may not be useful to mention: a) how long you have owned the product and have been waiting for the promise functionality, and b) how much you paid for it, although I would think that the complaint would be valid independent of the price paid.

Alternatively, and I think that this might actually be a stronger complaint - complain that NVidia is requiring you to pay an additional sum of money for an additional product, to (only partially) enable a feature that was advertised as a feature when you purchased the card. In most states AFAIK it is unlawful to force you to pay extra for something that you already paid for - it's basically a form of fraud on its face.

Now, if the AG's office gets enough of these complaints, then they usually launch some sort of investigation. If NV gets enough of these state AGs' offices investigating them, then they will be forced to do something about it, or risk some sort of legal proceedings, most likely, depending on the case that can be brought against them.

Note: Contact your retailer and your vendor first, and see if they will: 1) offer you a refund, 2) exchange the card for a more-recent model with working functionality. If you attempt those things, and are then refused, also note that in your complaint, it makes your case for a complaint stronger.

DONT just link to this thread though, and DONT send an e-mail - send a real snail-mail letter, and try to phrase things concisely, politely, and succinctly. (Something that I am unable to do, unfortunately.) That's probably your best shot at getting a real resolution to the issue. Good luck.

 

[Megatomic]

Good lord, I'm so glad I returned my 6800 OC to Best Buy when I did (within 2 weeks and got full refund). While WMV acceleration is at best only slightly better on my X800 Pro, I don't feel cheated and lied to. I'm really sorry dudes, I'm usually an nVidiot but I couldn't let NV fvck me twice in a row like that. I'd bitch and moan to anyone who'll listen if I were you all.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Go buy a 6600 if you even have the capability to display the resolutions you people are crying about.

For christs sake this is a checkmark feature... If you have a 6800GT/U you should CERTAINLY have enough CPU to run these WMV-HD files anyway...

Whats another $150 for the PVP? Then you can watch your whopping 5 movies that even support it.

Seriously this doesnt even warrant this thread, i couldnt possibly care less, and i do tons of encoding and decoding.

So where is your 6800? If you do have one and you don't have an Intel HT CPU, then how can you stand having a $300-$500 hunk of PCB & silicon that won't play a video file smoothly if you are doing ANYTHING. I certainly have the CPU for doing two things at once, but the fvcked PVP on the 6800 prevents me from watching my Scrubs TV-rips & talking on AIM at the same time. THAT is the tip of iceberg as to why people are upset about this.
And if you don't have a 6800, go play hide & go fvck yourself. Thanks

 

[fbrdphreak]

And as an aside,
My plan is to see what BFG will do for me after X-Mas (I'm away from my desktop for a while), maybe an Ultra or something to appease And when a fixed model comes out (i.e. NV48 or whatever has a working PVP, or AT LEAST acceptable video playback even if its from a WMP update), BFG will take care of that. I know how to be an a$$hole of a customer But only when its deserved, and here I believe it is.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: humey
Acanthus, no one cares what you think and thats not cheek, as nvidia told us the n40 would do all this and it dont, so wheather you en/decode ot not its still principle as i exampled b4 with the public anounced top speed of a Ferarri, im not going to repeat so u can look back some pages.

If something doesnt perform or do as it was claim to do its sue time.

None of us moaning are cheapskates we all got top of range cards, so why should £150 card do what it says on box if my £410 card dont.

Good, sue them.

Im sure on your walmart income you can afford a lawyer that will take on nvidia.

Did you get your working papers? im sure nvidia will call your credibility into question if you didnt!!



Again, its a checkmark feature. Its not a "top speed of the ferrari" issue, its more like the color of the speedometer.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Go buy a 6600 if you even have the capability to display the resolutions you people are crying about.

For christs sake this is a checkmark feature... If you have a 6800GT/U you should CERTAINLY have enough CPU to run these WMV-HD files anyway...

Whats another $150 for the PVP? Then you can watch your whopping 5 movies that even support it.

Seriously this doesnt even warrant this thread, i couldnt possibly care less, and i do tons of encoding and decoding.

So where is your 6800? If you do have one and you don't have an Intel HT CPU, then how can you stand having a $300-$500 hunk of PCB & silicon that won't play a video file smoothly if you are doing ANYTHING. I certainly have the CPU for doing two things at once, but the fvcked PVP on the 6800 prevents me from watching my Scrubs TV-rips & talking on AIM at the same time. THAT is the tip of iceberg as to why people are upset about this.
And if you don't have a 6800, go play hide & go fvck yourself. Thanks

I have a 6600GT and an P4E.

and if i had a 6800GT (which i would if they had NV45 ANYWHERE NEAR MSRP). I wouldnt care about the FIVE VIDEO FILES OUT OF EVERY SINGLE ONE IN THE WORLD that would be cpu bound... and still run smoothly.

Oh and you found the reason i dont have an athlon-64, go enjoy your 10% in games

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Go buy a 6600 if you even have the capability to display the resolutions you people are crying about.

For christs sake this is a checkmark feature... If you have a 6800GT/U you should CERTAINLY have enough CPU to run these WMV-HD files anyway...

Whats another $150 for the PVP? Then you can watch your whopping 5 movies that even support it.

Seriously this doesnt even warrant this thread, i couldnt possibly care less, and i do tons of encoding and decoding.

So where is your 6800? If you do have one and you don't have an Intel HT CPU, then how can you stand having a $300-$500 hunk of PCB & silicon that won't play a video file smoothly if you are doing ANYTHING. I certainly have the CPU for doing two things at once, but the fvcked PVP on the 6800 prevents me from watching my Scrubs TV-rips & talking on AIM at the same time. THAT is the tip of iceberg as to why people are upset about this.
And if you don't have a 6800, go play hide & go fvck yourself. Thanks

I have a 6600GT and an P4E.

and if i had a 6800GT (which i would if they had NV45 ANYWHERE NEAR MSRP). I wouldnt care about the FIVE VIDEO FILES OUT OF EVERY SINGLE ONE IN THE WORLD that would be cpu bound... and still run smoothly.

Oh and you found the reason i dont have an athlon-64, go enjoy your 10% in games

Hey JACK@$$, NONE of the videos I watch are encoded in HD. They are TV Rips, Divx, or XVid. Watching any of the above and doing ANYTHING else causes stuttering. Anyone here can attest to this. Yes, P4's have better multitasking overall and HT severely reduces the effect of the non-PVP. However, my A64 will probly thrash your P4 in most every game.
Oh, and if you can't find a 6800GT at or below MSRP, its because you're a blind @$$. Walk into my BBY store and I'll sell you a brand new 6800GT OC for $405.99 plus tax.

 

[rbV5]

Again, its a checkmark feature. Its not a "top speed of the ferrari" issue, its more like the color of the speedometer.

Actually, its more like the Ferrari's transmission...it'll still do well above the speedlimit with 5 and 6th gear missing (well into 3 figures mph), and it'll get there scary fast. Most people who have never driven "a" Ferrari wouldn't even miss the gears if you didn't include the shift positions or the markings on the ball.

10% of the transistors on the die aren't trivial no matter how you try to belittle the issue.

edit: added "a" instead of "the"

 

[imported_humey]

Acanthus, lets get something straight, i dont work in some $2 per hour shop, and im not in USA so FOOK that for a start, im in UK and i beat nvidia and chaintech last jan and got new card, you can ly on your back and be beat but i wont, GOD BLESS THE QUEEN.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Go buy a 6600 if you even have the capability to display the resolutions you people are crying about.

For christs sake this is a checkmark feature... If you have a 6800GT/U you should CERTAINLY have enough CPU to run these WMV-HD files anyway...

Whats another $150 for the PVP? Then you can watch your whopping 5 movies that even support it.

Seriously this doesnt even warrant this thread, i couldnt possibly care less, and i do tons of encoding and decoding.

Acanthus- if they followed your advice, they'd have to give up their number one hobby, spanking while dreaming about the horrible injustice of '04:

.....smacksmacksmack...oooh nVidia screwed up this time.....smacksmacksmack.....I'm just a kid, but I bet some rich guy is going to start a class action suit.......smacksmacksmack....this is a really big deal, and I'm right in the thick of it because I own one of these cards and downloaded a trailer....smacksmacksmack........those guys on AT are so cool.......smacksmacksmack.......

This thread has turned into a hopeless little circlejerk. You all can go back to saying how "this sucks" for the 8,000 time, and making idle threats about lawyers you can't afford to hire to recover the few bucks a video card costs.
"Few bucks"? Go ask an attorney what it will cost to review your "case", you'll see what I mean. Their time is money, and not video card change either.

Oh yeah, and Anand is a "fanboy" because he's hasn't jumped aboard the "cause". If Anand is what a "fanboy" is, I honestly hope I can be as big of a "fanboy" as he is.

<steps off soap box and waits for some lonely student to post 3,594 words about the evils of Rollo, Anand, and anyone else who doesn't think this is the worst crime since gassing the Kurds>

 

[EightySix Four]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Go buy a 6600 if you even have the capability to display the resolutions you people are crying about.

For christs sake this is a checkmark feature... If you have a 6800GT/U you should CERTAINLY have enough CPU to run these WMV-HD files anyway...

Whats another $150 for the PVP? Then you can watch your whopping 5 movies that even support it.

Seriously this doesnt even warrant this thread, i couldnt possibly care less, and i do tons of encoding and decoding.

Acanthus- if they followed your advice, they'd have to give up their number one hobby, spanking while dreaming about the horrible injustice of '04:

.....smacksmacksmack...oooh nVidia screwed up this time.....smacksmacksmack.....I'm just a kid, but I bet some rich guy is going to start a class action suit.......smacksmacksmack....this is a really big deal, and I'm right in the thick of it because I own one of these cards and downloaded a trailer....smacksmacksmack........those guys on AT are so cool.......smacksmacksmack.......

This thread has turned into a hopeless little circlejerk. You all can go back to saying how "this sucks" for the 8,000 time, and making idle threats about lawyers you can't afford to hire to recover the few bucks a video card costs.
"Few bucks"? Go ask an attorney what it will cost to review your "case", you'll see what I mean. Their time is money, and not video card change either.

Oh yeah, and Anand is a "fanboy" because he's hasn't jumped aboard the "cause". If Anand is what a "fanboy" is, I honestly hope I can be as big of a "fanboy" as he is.

<steps off soap box and waits for some lonely student to post 3,594 words about the evils of Rollo, Anand, and anyone else who doesn't think this is the worst crime since gassing the Kurds>

nicely put

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Rollo
<steps off soap box and waits for some lonely student to post 3,594 words about the evils of Rollo, Anand, and anyone else who doesn't think this is the worst crime since gassing the Kurds>

Ok, I take back my observation about you, Rollo, it's not just nazis, but apparently, also incidents of genocide in general. Why do these things get brought up in a discussion about video cards? I have no idea...

PS. You're wrong about the lawyers, too, if they smell "big money" and think there's a case, I'm sure most of them would take the case on contingency. (We all know that the only ones that make out from class-action lawsuits are the lawyers anyways though, right?)

But that's why I suggested contacting the AG's office in your state, they are (usually) the legal front-man for consumer's rights issues, and filing a complaint shouldn't cost anything, and is probably more likely to result in some sort of action, IF the number of complaints is high enough.

I actually do kind of question Anand's "PureVideo" comparison review though, I was reading another one on another site, and the pictures that they showed, purportedly from an ATI X700, didn't show the same sort or level of visual defects that the ones in Anand's article did. In theirs, they showed the pre-PureVideo NV DVD decoding, the new PureVideo DVD decoding, and ATI's DVD decoding, and the images from the PureVideo and ATI were about the same, with the pre-PureVideo NV looking worse than either. In Anand's review, the ATI pictures all look clearly inferior and problematic. I'm a bit curious why, because I've been a fan of ATI's DVD-decoding prowess for some time, and the images that I get from a 9200 aren't nearly as bad as those in the article. In fact in one scene, the guys coat is a totally different color! What's up with that? It almost makes me wonder if the ATI card was somehow decoding in 16-bit color or something.. I dunno. It just didn't look right. Then again, the DVD used for comparison was incorrectly pre-mastered, an interesting choice for comparison purposes to be sure. It would have been nice to see an assortment of images from properly-mastered DVDs as well for comparison and "control" purposes, along with perhaps the output from a top-quality set-top DVD player.

Ok, still looking for that particular review, but the pics from HotHardware agree with Anand's results, and contradict the other review that I saw. Hmm.

 

[imported_humey]

Ok as im in UK i cant follow most of this talk esp when its quotes added to make it long as hell and most i read is mumble jumble from rollo or his crowd he is fighting with, USA type english, this thread is getting a joke. (it would fit on 25 pages if not quoted all time adding 5 previous post to your new ones).

IS anyone here genuinely pissed of at nvidia as we 6800's owners read long ago or read on our card box, that it does certain things it dont, YES or NO ?

If you are a gammer and not give a sh*t you obv can feel free to come on this thread if you like, but i see little point esp if anyone in this cat is flaming us for being pissed, and reading on web last 2 days its a free bonus add on to the card anyhow, think of it as xmas gift is just LAME.

Anyone reading that and accepting i not gonna even comment on, i for 1 am gonna get it dealt with once ive got 70.10 drivers and ran them, i dont ideally want a broken 6800U 5-6 months after relase as it was like golddust trying to get anyhow if its not doing what web and box and mostly Nvidia claimed it was meant to do.

In UK i will win my case no probs. HOPE rest you do aswell.

 

[LoneWolf15]

You know, there's one thing lacking in these forums that nVNews and HardOCP have...the ability to report trolls. Acanthus, if this isn't a big deal to you, perhaps you shouldn't bother posting in this thread and find one more useful to you. By the way, in the case of class-action lawsuits, often the lawyer is paid out of settlement fees or damages awarded --it would be more important to find a good lawyer who understands the system rather than to get the money to pay them.
I think anyone who listens to Acanthus is just feeding the troll; and we all know how trolls love to be fed. They tend to die when ignored.

 

[fbrdphreak]

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