GeForce FX Benchmarks!!!!

lifeguard1999

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From Maximum PC.

GeForce FX

Quake3 Demo001, 1600x1200 2xAA: 209fps
UT 2003 Asbestos, 1600x1200 2xAA: 140fps
3DMark Game4, 1600x1200 2xAA: 41fps


Radeon 9700 Pro

Quake3 Demo001, 1600x1200 2xAA: 147fps
UT 2003 Asbestos, 1600x1200 2xAA: 119fps
3DMark Game4, 1600x1200 2xAA: 45fps

Tests were run in the Alienware prototype system.

Beta system; beta drivers. Looks good for NVidia. We should see how it holds up with more benchmarks later this month. And of course, ATI has a response waiting in the wings.
 

lifeguard1999

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Since the NV30 (130 nm process) outperforms the 9700 Pro by 20%~40% as has shown in Maximum PC., all ATI has to do with its R350 (150 nm process) to equal the NV30 is have the GPU sped up by 40%. Xbit labs overclocks the Radeon 9700 Pro in thisarticle by 38%. Unfortunaltey the Xbit Labs article's benchmarks are not the same as the Maximum PC benchmarks. Even if they were, we do not know what type of system the Alienware was. ATI's raw memory bandwidth is already superior to the FX. Let us suppose that the FX is superior to the R350 in DX9 instructions, loops, etc., etc., etc. Those superior functions of the chip will not be of any use in games for at least a year or more.

NVidia is likely to be the fastest graphics card for about 3 months before ATI resumes the lead.

BTW:

Want to bet we get another series of article out of Ed over at overclockers.com like the following:
Radeon 9700: Boredom Over Whoredom
Reaction to Radeon
Except this time it is on the FX?
 

TourGuide

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The next product refresh from both ATI and nVidia (after FX and R350) ought to be pretty interesting. My guess is nVidia will do a clock speed ramp + go 256 bit mem interface. ATI - who knows? This is supposed to be a whole new architecture from ATI the next time.

Looking forward to both.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Those benches show 2XFSAA, I want to see more Beating out the 9700 at high res with relatively low FSAA with less memory bandwidth is still some what impressive, but what's the difference between 209 and 147 in Quake 3? And 140 and 119 in UT 2003? Then 3DMark Game4 the 9700 is actually faster... 45 fps to 41... Not too impressive just yet but I doubt those scores are very valid... it would have been better to see higher FSAA and/or AF.
 

Ziptar

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uughh, Reeks like a Fishmonger!

Now I know what a hardware review would look like published in Pravda under Stalin ... Of course this could be on par with ATI's "Quack3" stunt....

It's interesting that they didn't allow 4x tests... How much speed do we need anyway... I am running games at 1600x1200 (yes, I have a 21" Monitor) max details w/ 4X AA and 16X AF turned on and the card hardly breaks a sweat....

It's nice Hype and theres really no info to go on. Why nVidia would allow them to publish this way, it sounds more dubious than it does an good. It sounds awfully fishy to me with statements like...
nVidia initially refused to let us benchmark it at all, and relented only when we agreed to limit our tests to pre-approved benchmarks running at stipulated resolutions and AA settings.
and
Our hunch is that turning on 4x anti-aliasing at 1600x1200 would diminish the GeForce?s performance lead over the Radeon, or maybe even nix it entirely. But that?s just a guess based on the scores we achieved, and the fact that nVidia wouldn?t let us run anything that would stress the memory pipeline.
Having just moved from the nVidiot world to gAyTI world with a AIW 9700Pro, I gotta say I have never been happier with a vid card. I have owned a long string of nVidias and until now I never new what I was missing. The Image quality (2D and 3D) is spectactular with this card. Framerate, Bandwidth, and GPU speed are one thing but, if it looks like crap so what! From the VIVO standpoint when it comes to quality and features the All in Wonder Line has nVidia's VIVO implementations beat hand down IMHO.

Yeah, Yeah, there were initially some install/driver issues but that was solved by educating the user (me.), and problems getting the AIW to do dual monitors w/ a PCI Card.

It'll be interesting to see what the "real" numbers are when the GeforceFX finally goes public and can be reviewed by anyone under any conditions.

Originally posted by: thomasj
27000 3DMarks! Source:

http://www.computer-trend.biz/tests/xNews.php?act=shownews&id=6

Linky no workie....
 

Slappy00

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Yeah, Yeah, there were initially some install/driver issues but that was solved by educating the user (me.),

amen to that brother, it irritates me when ppl slap in a new peice of technology and expect it to work flawlessly... I had a few issues with my 9700pro, but most of those were fixed with messing with my DX or OGL properties, or editing the game .ini ... Now thats not even needed since i got the cat 3.0 and DX 9.0...

oh yah and to make this post work with the thread:

Seems that Nvidia is keeping the benches so they favor the FX, no surprise there, Being January already it worries me that they are not allowing the testers to test the card with impunity, methinks that the release date will be febuary not Jan if they ant get their drivers together yet so the card works fine under all tests.

I think Nvidia is trying to rationalize their lack of a comperable bus (128 to 256) by not including bechmarks that might show the weakness when it comes high AA and anso with high resolutions.

40% higher isnt that much, like a previous post I can easily OC my 9700pro about 30 some odd percent ( Gigabyte stock cooling) and have very close performance on a card that has been out a 1/2 of a year already. If ATI drops the core to 14 (or is it 13, i forget) nanometer process then the core can even be clocked higher, slap in a DDR 2 platform and so solly Nvidia. THe technology is already out and it is just a matter of time before the Fab is switched and new cards are released...

I for one (in general) dont care much for benchmarks and such, I think ppl should just worry about how fast games run on your system and not benchmarks on other systems that are not released or that you cant afford....




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