GeForce Fx Family Preview up at [H}

[308nato]

For those that are interested.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Looks like RV280 (Radeon 9200) will have problems competing against the FX 5200, simply because the former is simply a DX8.1 card.

Anyone guess the memory bandwidth of the Radeon 9600 PRO based on what info we have?

 

[308nato]

The $79 price tag for a DX9 capable card will definitely carry it well for the mainstream (5200).

 

[FuManStan]

From what we have seen thus far, the cards offer excellent performance at an exceptional price

Awesome, that's what i've been waiting to hear. Gotta wait until Monday for benchmarks though

 

[Fingolfin269]

Err yah I thought the 9200 WAS DX9 compatible. I'll read up on it some more I guess.. All of these 9xxx are starting to blur but I assumed the 9 at the beginning of the 9xxx was meant to denote DX9 compatibility.

EDIT: Now that I think about it... the 9000 isnt dx9 compatibile is it?

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Err yah I thought the 9200 WAS DX9 compatible. I'll read up on it some more I guess.. All of these 9xxx are starting to blur but I assumed the 9 at the beginning of the 9xxx was meant to denote DX9 compatibility.

EDIT: Now that I think about it... the 9000 isnt dx9 compatibile is it?

No, the 9200 is basically an AGP 8x version of the 9100 with some possible other minor differences. It's still a DX8.1 card, though. It's possible the Radeon 9600 (non-PRO) could drop in price enough to compete with the 5200. We need to see some benches!

 

[paralazarguer]

EDIT: Now that I think about it... the 9000 isnt dx9 compatibile is it?

Nope. It's just a rebranded Radeon 9000 which is a rebranded radeon 8500

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Looks like RV280 (Radeon 9200) will have problems competing against the FX 5200, simply because the former is simply a DX8.1 card.

Anyone guess the memory bandwidth of the Radeon 9600 PRO based on what info we have?

9.6 GB/s for the 9600pro...easy to remember

Should be very interesting battle with the 5600U, as it has a bandwidth of 11.2 GB/S which isn't that far off the 5800 non-U. Both have 4 x 1 pipeline architecture and fast core and mem clocks. Should be a nice competition for the middle-market.

Chiz

 

[paralazarguer]

Have you seen the pictures of the 5200? It's lookin' mighty fine! It's tiny and has a passive heatsink. YUM! That's the one that I want! Oh yeah.

With so many features packed into this family of GPU's, one has to wonder how successful these graphics cards will prove to be in benchmarks. Unfortunately, we cannot release any benchmark results at this time. However, you can expect a full review of the GeForce FX 5600 Ultra and GeForce FX 5200 Ultra next Monday with some comparison boards thrown in for good measure.

From what we have seen thus far, the cards offer excellent performance at an exceptional price. Though these models fail to blow-away the previous generation of cards without any image-quality settings such as FSAA or Anisotropic Filtering, it is a whole different story once those settings are enabled. As the resolution rises and these settings increase, the true potential of these cards is realized. We certainly want to compare the new ATi 9600 series to the NVIDIA cards as well, but while the 9600 series was announced last night, we have have yet to see any working samples on our test bench.

Overall, it looks as though NVIDIA has possibly struck gold with their latest additions to the GeForce FX family of GPU's. Kudos to NVIDIA for bringing DX9 home to the mainstream masses. I have to think they will be loved for doing it. And let's face it, mainstream is where all the profit dollars are made anyway. Drive for show and putt for dough...right?

 

[Athlon4all]

I wonder when AT's preview will be up

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: 308nato
The $79 price tag for a DX9 capable card will definitely carry it well for the mainstream (5200).

A perfect card to throw in when building systems for the friends or family...

Nothing to weak, but not expensive either...

DX 9.

I give it a

 

[bluemax]

Originally posted by: 308nato
The $79 price tag for a DX9 capable card will definitely carry it well for the mainstream (5200).

Now THAT sure caught my eye! I wonder what the 9600's will be seeling for.... I think ~50% more. Then again, we don't know the speed differences yet....

I wonder what the best value card is going to be in the next couple months... 9700NP?

 

[Mem]

Should be very interesting battle with the 5600U, as it has a bandwidth of 11.2 GB/S which isn't that far off the 5800 non-U. Both have 4 x 1 pipeline architecture and fast core and mem clocks. Should be a nice competition for the middle-market.

I`ve my eyes on the 5600 Ultra,don`t want to spend too much on a video card being they get replaced faster then my shoes ,anyway when we see some real benchmarks ,I`ll be looking to see how it does against ATI 9600 or 9500 Pro.

 

[FuManStan]

A little bit on the performance from Tom's

However, we can already give you some of our first impressions about the performance of the new cards. In the standard tests without FSAA and anitotropic filtering, the FX 5600 Ultra seems to be just about the same or slower than a GeForce 4 Ti 4200 8x and Radeon 9500 PRO. This might be due to the reduced pixel pipelines (2x2 as opposed to 4x2). With 4xFSAA, it appears to reach nearly double the performance of the 4200, beating a 4800 as well, but it loses out to the Radeon 9500 PRO. It's a similar picture with the anisotropic filtering. In the pixel shader tests from 3D Mark 2001, it beats the 4200/2800, but loses in the vertex shader tests. In both tests, it clearly loses to the Radeon 9500 PRO.

The FX 5200 Ultra is quite a bit slower than the 5600 Ultra in the standard tests. In anti-aliasing, it's just a tad behing the Ti 4200. It's the same with anisotropic filtering - at least in Balanced mode. In Performance mode, it even manages to beat the 4800.

Hmm... looks like a 9500 Pro is a good buy, although i'll wait to see the actual benchamrks for the 5600 Ultra and the 9600 Pro.

 

[DannyBoy]

So im guessing the 5200 FX is faster than the GF4 Ti4600's? If so how much cheaper will they be?

It might be a silly question but i just wanna make sure nVidia hasnt done sumthing gay like they did with the GF4 mx's which turn out being no fastr than a GF2 Ultra

So just to make sure, the 5200 FX (Not Ultra), the one with the passive heatsink, this is faster than a Ti4600 right?

Dan

 

[DX2Player]

I hope there is a massive battle in the 100-200 range where I will probably head to next to upgrade from this Geforce2 Ultra

 

[Pocatello]

The GF FX 5200 should be a hit with OEM such as DELL.

 

[DannyBoy]

So ....

/me taps foot anxiously...


Anyone interested in perhaps giving me some idea for an answer to my question

Dan

 

[paralazarguer]

So im guessing the 5200 FX is faster than the GF4 Ti4600's? If so how much cheaper will they be?

It might be a silly question but i just wanna make sure nVidia hasnt done sumthing gay like they did with the GF4 mx's which turn out being no fastr than a GF2 Ultra

So just to make sure, the 5200 FX (Not Ultra), the one with the passive heatsink, this is faster than a Ti4600 right?

No. early benchmarks don't seem to support your standard crackpot theories.

 

[human2k]

Originally posted by: MrFiTTy
So im guessing the 5200 FX is faster than the GF4 Ti4600's? If so how much cheaper will they be?

It might be a silly question but i just wanna make sure nVidia hasnt done sumthing gay like they did with the GF4 mx's which turn out being no fastr than a GF2 Ultra

So just to make sure, the 5200 FX (Not Ultra), the one with the passive heatsink, this is faster than a Ti4600 right?

Dan

I find it hard to believe that the 5200FX is only $79. I also found it hard to believe last year that a Geforce 4 MX was only $79 also. To bad the performance of the GF 4 MX line was crap. Hopefully this prevails, if its faster or on par with a 8500LE im sold. The current sub $100 card leader: 8500LE $72 .

 

[bluemax]

Heeeeeyyyy... if we can get ~TI4200 performance, DX9 and PASSIVE COOLING on a GFFX 5200 for $79 I'd buy one without a second thought!

But it's speculation for now....

 

[paralazarguer]

tomshardware got theirs up before poor anandtech.

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: paralazarguer
tomshardware got theirs up before poor anandtech.

LoL! I love their wording:

Until then, NVIDIA has placed an embargo on benchmarking.

Bush should place an embargo on him :|

Chiz

 

[paralazarguer]

Yeah, the fanless 5200 will be nowhere near as fast as any GeForce ti. According to Tomshardware, the 5600 ULTRA will be only about as fast as a GeForce 4 ti 4200. The 5200 on the other hand has had the silicon chopped and doesn't support intellisample including colour compression. It's going to be very, very, very slow.

 

[paralazarguer]

Then there are those early 3dmark 2003 scores being reported from various sources which rumour the 5200 not being able to get to 1000. For a DX9 part, that's pathetic. Oh well, what do you expect for $100?