Geforce GTX 1060 Thread: faster than RX 480, 120W, $249

[Arachnotronic]

This is called spreading Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.

Like me saying,

The GCN architecture has run its course and is losing its legs. In two years time its performance will drop off drastically.

You guys are eventually going to wish you hadnt clung so tightly to the Kepler gen not having the legs GCN did at the time.

Agreed, the meme is starting to get really old.

 

[Thala]

This is called spreading Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.

Like me saying,

The GCN architecture has run its course and is losing its legs. In two years time its performance will drop off drastically.

You guys are eventually going to wish you hadnt clung so tightly to the Kepler gen not having the legs GCN did at the time.

Excuse my ignorance, but you complaining about FUD and then going on to spread more FUD? Hypocrisy at its finest.

Edit: Ok reading second time, you are just making an analogy instead of a statement? In this case i am taking back what i said.

 

[Magic Carpet]

This is called spreading Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.

Oh, I am pretty certain that the additional 2 gigs of VRAM will be far more useful than the benchmarks are showing today. 8GB is the minimum VRAM I'd buy now. I'd rather pay more and get 1070. Looks like 960 2GB all over again.

 

[Silverforce11]

Agreed, the meme is starting to get really old.

Yeah, folks on Kepler should upgrade already a year ago, it's now so old it's ancient.

Maybe in six months or so, folks on Maxwell should definitely upgrade too, will be old soon.

I mean what sense is there for gamers to hang onto old-tech for as long as possible? That just doesn't serve the corporate interest one bit.

 

[Keysplayr]

Excuse my ignorance, but you complaining about FUD and then going on to spread more FUD? Hypocrisy at its finest.

Edit: Ok reading second time, you are just making an analogy instead of a statement. In this case i am taking back what i said.

Edit: Ah, I see you understand what I wrote now.

 

[Keysplayr]

Oh, I am pretty certain that the additional 2 gigs of VRAM will be far more useful than the benchmarks are showing today. 8GB is the minimum VRAM I'd buy now. I'd rather pay more and get 1070.

Hear that folks? Now 6GB isn't even good enough. 8 is perfect. Can this guy be any more transparent in his comments? Wow.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Yeah, folks on Kepler should upgrade already a year ago, it's now so old it's ancient.

It's an architecture that's more than four years old . That really is ancient in the world of technology.

Maybe in six months or so, folks on Maxwell should definitely upgrade too, will be old soon.

In six months, Maxwell won't be four years old .

I mean what sense is there for gamers to hang onto old-tech for as long as possible? That just doesn't serve the corporate interest one bit.

You can hang on to the old tech all you'd like, but new tech will give you a better experience. It's newer and builds upon what came before.

 

[Keysplayr]

Yeah, folks on Kepler should upgrade already a year ago, it's now so old it's ancient.

Maybe in six months or so, folks on Maxwell should definitely upgrade too, will be old soon.

I mean what sense is there for gamers to hang onto old-tech for as long as possible? That just doesn't serve the corporate interest one bit.

I know you need to play it out, but Silverforce, folks can still play a game or two just fine on their "prehistoric" Kepler gpus. Driver updates improved kepler performance over time. Just not as much as GCN gpus. You guys played on that but then actually intentionally tried to make it sound like Kepler was actually LOSING performance. That was not even remotely the case.
But what am I telling you for. You know.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Hear that folks? Now 6GB isn't even good enough. 8 is perfect. Can this guy be any more transparent in his comments? Wow.

480GB 8GB is likely to age better, and not just because of the extra VRAM. Of course, that is just my speculation. Time will tell, whether I was right or wrong.

 

[redzo]

For a GPU targeting 1080p, 6GB is more than enough. In fact I would argue that the very cheap 4GB rx480 makes more sense than the 8GB one, especially for people on a low budget where every penny matters.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I know you need to play it out, but Silverforce, folks can still play a game or two just fine on their "prehistoric" Kepler gpus. Driver updates improved kepler performance over time.

It's true. My dad uses a GTX 780 and he's quite happy with it, as I suspect most current Kepler users are.

 

[MarkizSchnitzel]

I'd like to see 480 8GB vs 1060 6GB performance in a couple of years please

Well, by that time, I suppose many people who actually care will be having, what, 1160/580.
Not a very good business strategy at all, to make your product much better few years after purchase.

 

[Magic Carpet]

For a GPU targeting 1080p, 6GB is more than enough.

For the same money, I'd rather get a GPU with more vram. 1060 6GB are likely to be more expensive than custom 480 8GB. Even today, we can already make use of extra VRAM to free up system resources for other purposes. 1070/1080 8GBs both look much more solid, no matter how I look at them.

 

[littleg]

For a GPU targeting 1080p, 6GB is more than enough. In fact I would argue that the very cheap 4GB rx480 makes more sense than the 8GB one, especially for people on a low budget where every penny matters.

I'd agree but with the caveat that it really depends on how long you plan to keep the card. 4GB will be enough for 1080 at this performance point for a year or two I would think. If you're not planning to upgrade again within 18 months or even if you can swing the extra $40 or so it makes much more sense to get the bigger vram.

 

[Silverforce11]

This vram explosion is getting out of control though. I hope devs won't add anymore "Hyper" mode that artificially inflate the vram consumption, crippling performance with such low visual fidelity improvements...

But we all know they will. Once somebody starts doing these extreme settings, the others will follow suit. Cos PC Master Race and all that.. gotta max it out!

Gamers on a budget will definitely have future proofing on their minds, because they don't have the budget to constantly upgrade afterall.

 

[Shivansps]

This vram explosion is getting out of control though. I hope devs won't add anymore "Hyper" mode that artificially inflate the vram consumption, crippling performance with such low visual fidelity improvements...

But we all know they will. Once somebody starts doing these extreme settings, the others will follow suit. Cos PC Master Race and all that.. gotta max it out!

Gamers on a budget will definitely have future proofing on their minds, because they don't have the budget to constantly upgrade afterall.

Still, GTX770 2GB and 780TI 3GB do suffers from this, at least on the high/ultra settings used in benchmarks.

For example if i take Crysis 3(the only one i can find they still test today) results from 290X launch on 2013, and compare it to Crysis 3 results from RX480 launch, the R9 290X gains where minimal, yet if we take overral performance of 2013 and 2016 it tells a different history. And 780TI still gets perf upgrades in drivers for new games, thats why it is still around GTX970 level today like it was at 970 launch in 2014.

Personally i whould not recomend to buy 3GB or 4GB in 2016 for either 1060 or 480.

 

[Dribble]

Really you don't need that much ram unless you want super high settings that look basically identically to the high settings while playing the game. Sure if you have gone ultra high end then yes you could argue you *expect* to play at those super high settings but for this level of card 4gb is fine. Same as it was fine for 970/980/290 which have similar performance.

The argument for 8GB was Sli/Xfire but as we've already discussed that's either not available or not worth it with this gen. Other then that it might very occasionally allow you to increase some setting by one notch giving pretty well no visual difference when playing the game.

 

[Sweepr]

Geforce GTX 1060 6GB listed in US stores ($259)

6GB model is already available for pre-order in the US, for $259 and $263:

https://www.sabrepc.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=gtx+1060&order=relevance&dir=desc
http://www.shopblt.com/search/order_id=%21ORDERID%21&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=gtx+1060

So not only below FE's $299 but also really close to MSRP, and that's pre-order.


NVIDIA's Geforce GTX 1060 Reviewer's Guide

http://videocardz.com/62138/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-reviewers-guide-leaked

GP106 = 200mm²

 

[sze5003]

Geforce GTX 1060 6GB listed in US stores ($259)

6GB model is already available for pre-order in the US, for $259 and $263:

https://www.sabrepc.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=gtx+1060&order=relevance&dir=desc
http://www.shopblt.com/search/order_id=%21ORDERID%21&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=gtx+1060

Not bad at all for pre-launch prices, closer to MSRP than other Pascal cards.


NVIDIA's Geforce GTX 1060 Reviewer's Guide

http://videocardz.com/62138/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-reviewers-guide-leaked

Prices are not bad for being close to msrp but who just preorders without reviews or scores ? I could put an order in but I want to know how it will do, as well as long term.

Also what is the difference between the $259 and $279 model?

 

[railven]

Prices are not bad for being close to msrp but who just preorders without reviews or scores ? I could put an order in but I want to know how it will do, as well as long term.

Also what is the difference between the $259 and $279 model?

Someone who is reserving a probable purchase? Pre-orders can be cancelled at anyone point and basically only service for a 24-48 hour hold.

I pre-order lots of things. Just in case I want it, then I don't have to worry about it not being available for me. I also cancel a lot of pre-orders day of release because I changed my mind.



On Topic:
It seems like I'll be looking at the 6GB version for my nephews rigs. I'll most likely just crumble and get the GF a GTX 1070 while I wait for GP102 for myself.

 

[Arachnotronic]

On Topic:
It seems like I'll be looking at the 6GB version for my nephews rigs. I'll most likely just crumble and get the GF a GTX 1070 while I wait for GP102 for myself.

:thumbsup:

GP102 should be a monster, a much better alternative to 1080 in SLI in all likelihood.

 

[Headfoot]

:thumbsup:

GP102 should be a monster, a much better alternative to 1080 in SLI in all likelihood.

I'm waiting to see GP102 myself as well. Im not gonna do multi gpu again until I see how well it shakes out in the DX12 world

 

[Bacon1]

By "Leaked" you mean, from Nvidia's Reviewer Guide right?

 

[railven]

:thumbsup:

GP102 should be a monster, a much better alternative to 1080 in SLI in all likelihood.

I'm waiting to see GP102 myself as well. Im not gonna do multi gpu again until I see how well it shakes out in the DX12 world

Yeah no kidding. I can't go mGPU again. The last time almost completely broke me haha.

Single big GPU FTW.

 

[hsjj3]

Well well...so there will be $250 cards then. I guess those will be reserved for the basic blower cards, then the basic reference clock aftermarkets will start at $260 and moderate factory OC at $270/80 and heavy factory OC at $290/300.