Geforce GTX 1060 Thread: faster than RX 480, 120W, $249

[krumme]

Of course they'll sell out on launch day. Just like the RX480 sold out quick and prices of remaining cards shot up +15% at many retailers (with "£220" cards going for £265), but those increases were declared good "because it proved they were popular". Neat trick... As I said, this moving the goalpost thing is comical when people start reaching for "RX 480 vs 750Ti due to 1060 stock levels" mental acrobatics 'comparisons' when there were indeed $250 Newegg versions sold at launch. Any sane person will wait a few weeks for prices & stock levels of both cards to settle down before standing on their usual "daily rage" forum soapbox.

Nope.
Gibbo sold 1000 480 day one. Similar to an entire month of 1080. Next day he sold 1000 more.
Now we got 10-100 gtx 1060 at stock at 250.
Seems to me quite similar to the 1080 situation.
The ones in stock is £290 to 330.
Easiest trick in town. Cheat stupid fanboys.

This "both cards" is bs. Its not remotely similar.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Swing and a miss for Nvidia going by the [H] review which tends to be more gentle on Nvidia (sorry [H]). A bit faster in DX11 slower in DX12 destroyed in Vulkan. System power draw is not enough to matter and I have a feeling aftermarket AMD card will further increase perf/watt. About that price, too high Nvidia you are flat out milking your loyal customers at this point not cool at all.

 

[USER8000]

Interestingly,Gibbo said on Overclockers UK they only had a few 100 GTX1060 for sale today and a few 1000 by the end of next week. They sold 2000+ RX480 cards in less than 24 hours(not pre-orders also it seems) at launch,and they have 2000 Sapphire RX480 Nitro+ cards alone coming in the next few weeks.

He also had to say this about the aftermarket RX480 cards:

It is not the AIB's fault, AMD over-sold on reference so the GPU went to building more reference to clear those backorders.

Sapphire alone have 5000 backorders on RX 480 reference still to fulfill in just the UK alone, that is the reason.

People post so much BS up, the real reasons are simply RX-480 demand was way way above what AMD could ever predicted. Custom cards go into product this weekend at numerous board partners.

 

[swilli89]

Serious questions about this card surviving for even 6 months with Doom Vulkan results. Battlefield 1 @ 1080p is a huge concern for this card.

 

[Insomniator]

Serious questions about this card surviving for even 6 months with Doom Vulkan results. Battlefield 1 @ 1080p is a huge concern for this card.

So is the DX12 thing a hardware issue or driver/software issue? I'm way out of date on that topic. The DOOM results are pretty stark though.

 

[antihelten]

14-15.1% performance gains from overclocking:

Average overclock performance seems to be closer to 10%. Ars tested overclocking in 7 different games and got an average performance boost of 10.4% at 1440P.

That's obviously better than the 5% that TPU got out of the 480, but in seen in a larger context, 10% overclocking is rather mediocre.

 

[Midwayman]

Just not seeing the value unless you can actually pick up one of the $249 ones. Meh increases for the price in dx 11 and getting beat in upcoming APIs. Still not an upgrade for my r9 290, especially in dx12. Guess I'm waiting to see what vega holds. Or maybe the 1070 will finally come down to a reasonable price first.

 

[krumme]

So is the DX12 thing a hardware issue or driver/software issue? I'm way out of date on that topic. The DOOM results are pretty stark though.

Both. Only new gcn cards can get the type of huge gain you see in doom and comming clean dx12 vulcan games.
The gain you see here coresponds to the theoretical performance of the cards.
The drivers is ready but the game engine must then also be made for it and writtwn specifically for the architechture. Typically that is most comming aaa games also made for consoles that uses gcn gpu and a few rts games out of the aaa range. Dx11 games stays the same.
The new ps4 neo is polaris gpu tech an evolvement of gcn in ps4 and eg 290 390 cards.

 

[plopke]

320 alll the way up to 400 euro for 1060 , auch but expected demand and a other price increase of NVIDIA on their XX60 lineup.

At least nice to see them close to each other, hopefully will put some more pressure on retailers so we don't see gauging retailer cuts on RX480 and/or GTX1060 here in europe.

I really like the power/performance of the 1060 and solid performance.

But i like the DX12/Vulcan and price of the RX 480 ,


<3 competition , pretty sure NVIDIA would have cheaped out on the 1060 more if it wasn't for the RX480. Let the dealing hunting commence :sneaky: or well the next few months ;p

 

[Sonikku]

I miss when decent GPUs weren't price gouged out the ass.

 

[Midwayman]

<3 competition , pretty sure NVIDIA would have cheaped out on the 1060 more if it wasn't for the RX480. Let the dealing hunting commence :sneaky: or well the next few months ;p

guaranteed the card would have been $50 more across the board.

 

[Insomniator]

I miss when decent GPUs weren't price gouged out the ass.

When was this?

 

[Soleron]

When was this?

HD 4850 time, or 8800GT time.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Let's see how long this lasts.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/302018471700

 

[krumme]

I miss when decent GPUs weren't price gouged out the ass.

Its not the retailers. Its nv setting a msrp price so low they know no one except for a few showoff cases will be sold at that price.
Its intentionally and planned. And its working.
You sell the cards at 100 usd above the adverticed price.
Trick people into selecting a card and then when they cant find it at the price where they made their decision they will just pay the extra.

Its insane they can do it. I have no idea why reviewers dont call them out on it.
Imagine if apple did the same. Even loyal apple supporters would be angry.

Beats me even for such a strong brand. Wow. Textbook example of what a strong brand can do.

Then on top but connected is this paper launch with extreme few cards.

 

[garagisti]

So is the DX12 thing a hardware issue or driver/software issue? I'm way out of date on that topic. The DOOM results are pretty stark though.

Well, Volta's presumably an all new architecture, unlike Pascal.

 

[linkgoron]

So a bit faster than the 480 at dx11, and slower in DX12. Looks like a wash imo. Although currently the 480 looks more future proof (not to mention Doom).

Definitely not the 480 killer.

Perf/watt is great, but both cards are decent imo.

Basically the 200$ 480 by far has the best value. At 240$ vs 250$ (if and when, obviously) it looks like a wash.

I'm curious how AIBs from both sides perform, although I'm expecting a higher stock advantage over the respective stock reference from the AIB 480s as they will hopefully both not throttle and have higher clocks.

 

[Insomniator]

HD 4850 time, or 8800GT time.

Those cards were $200 8 years ago and nobody ran 1440p back then. I don't think a $200 480 or $250 1060 is gouging at all.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

Its not the retailers. Its nv setting a msrp price so low they know no one except for a few showoff cases will be sold at that price.
Its intentionally and planned. And its working.
You sell the cards at 100 usd above the adverticed price.
Trick people into selecting a card and then when they cant find it at the price where they made their decision they will just pay the extra.

Its insane they can do it. I have no idea why reviewers dont call them out on it.
Imagine if apple did the same. Even loyal apple supporters would be angry.

Beats me even for such a strong brand. Wow. Textbook example of what a strong brand can do.

Then on top but connected is this paper launch with extreme few cards.

Maybe nvidia's msrp is unrealistically low but it's definitely also the retailers.

 

[R0H1T]

So a bit faster than the 480 at dx11, and slower in DX12. Looks like a wash imo. Although currently the 480 looks more future proof (not to mention Doom).

Definitely not the 480 killer.

Perf/watt is great, but both cards are decent imo.

Basically the 200$ 480 by far has the best value. At 240$ vs 250$ (if and when, obviously) it looks like a wash.

I'm curious how AIBs from both sides perform.

Really disappointed that TPU hasn't updated their benches to include any of the new(er) titles with DX12/Vulkan results, they're also ignoring the 200$ 480 & including the scarce 250$ 1060 in their perf/$ charts :thumbsdown: Can't say I'm surprised by the bias they've shown towards Nvidia lately, but still it's something to consider when looking at certain reviews

The 200$ RX480 is still the card to own, especially if it comes with 8GB VRAM :awe:

 

[Flapdrol1337]

The 200$ RX480 is still the card to own, especially if it comes with 8GB VRAM :awe:

That party is over unfortunately.

When the "real" 4GB cards show up I think the 470 will be the best bang/buck.

 

[R0H1T]

That party is over unfortunately.

When the "real" 4GB cards show up I think the 470 will be the best bang/buck.

Yes it will be but till the time AMD officially discontinues the 4GB model, there's no point in having the "just as rare" 249$ 1060 in the perf/$ chart whilst not having the former (4GB RX480) in there leading the TPU charts. That was the point I was making, as for efficiency you have to own Nvidia if you want to go green :sneaky:

 

[Midwayman]

Imagine if apple did the same. Even loyal apple supporters would be angry.

Apples does pull this crap. They make a base model with unusablely low memory and then the real model is $100 more. Not a supply issue so much, but the real price isn't the advertised price for sure.

 

[96Firebird]

EVGA comes out of the gate with compact cards, at $250. Amazing how competition can keep prices at MSRP...

http://www.evga.com/Products/Produc...ily=GeForce+10+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+1060

 

[Flapdrol1337]

Yes it will be but till the time AMD officially discontinues the 4GB model, there's no point in having the "just as rare" 249$ 1060 in the perf/$ chart whilst not having the former GPU in there leading the TPU charts. That was the point I was making, as for efficiency you have to own Nvidia if you want to go green :sneaky:

There's no point in even having perf/$ charts at this time imo.

480 was 269 eu, now 299 eu for one in stock where I live.