Geforce GTX 1060 Thread: faster than RX 480, 120W, $249

[tviceman]

I just don't get why people think amd could beat Nvidia in volume and timing. Amd needs an all around better product to gain marketshare. Price/performance is great but I really don't get who wouldn't buy the best product when it's a 20-30 price difference between both brands.

These people were relying on hope and past patterns of AMD moving to a new node faster that occurred before Nvidia overtook AMD in R&D and GPU product cadence. These same people are blaming GloFo for RX 480's short comings, when in reality RX 480 is mimicking the last several releases of AMD cards - being strapped with inadequate cooling (R9 290x / 290), having very limited headroom (Fiji and reference R9 290x/290), and/or being inefficient vs. the competition (Fury X).

 

[24601]

Looks like GTX1060 will be pretty great, and will give us a good testing platform to figure out exactly how memory bandwidth starved Pascal is. Actual pricing obviously effecting consumer's personal calculations of value of course.

The AMD damage control brigade is hilarious.

So far we have:

"You are only allowed to compare AMD AIB vs Nvidia Reference"

"Nvidia marketing slides are always false and AMD marketing slides are the Vicar of Christ"
Apparently that even extends to AMD rumors vs Nvidia marketing slides.

"The Nvidia 1060 card that we (at the time of the post) have no benchmarks for will obviously be slower in every way compared to RX 480, to say otherwise is blasphemy and heresy"

"GP106 SLI is required for my purchase and people shouldn't stand for it's lack (says various posters who have R9 290/x and/or Rx 480)"
Ignoring the fact that AFR is cancer and that there are single GPUs more capable.

"I can't figure out any problems with GTX 1070 yet, so lets make some up, facts be damned"

"DX11 performance doesn't matter. Only the tiny minority of DX12 games matter, and only if they show favor to AMD, because any that don't are obviously not admissible on account of heresy"
Nevermind the fact that anything outside of AAA has 0% chance of being a DX12 title for the next 5 years.

"GP106 can't possibly beat RX 480, it would have to be a GP104 for that to be the case"

"GTX 970 had some problems, therefore by the transitive property, GP106 1060 will have the identical or worse problems, because reasons"

"Any stock limitation of Nvidia vs demand is sneaky dribbling of cards to the plebs and/or they have bad yields. Any stock limitation of AMD vs demand is off the charts demand, and for such an event to occur, the people must have eaten through zillions of cards already"

"Any time we praise something RX 480 didn't eventually deliver, you should forget it. Any time we denigrate something about 1060 in a slanderous/libelous way that doesn't actually turn out to be true, you shouldn't be allowed to mention it. Dear consumer, do not believe your lying eyes."


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[dark zero]

Which is less than what we've seen from rx480.

edit: well can't paste the URL as part of it seems to be banned on this forum. But google search that statement.

We knew that nVIDIA has poor Hash rate from cryptocoins. AMD is saved by that. Oh and Double Precision too. even the RX 480 has more DP than the 1080 itself. The problem is... where to use that.
Well, time to go on topic.

Seems that the RX 1060 is the competitor of the RX 480, and they will have drivers ready for that....

The problem seems that the 3 GB edition is like a heavily nerfed edition of them and that could be the 1050 itself instead calling 1060.

And where are the 1050 and the 1040?

 

[tviceman]

Looks like GTX1060 will be pretty great, and will give us a good testing platform to figure out exactly how memory bandwidth starved Pascal is. Actual pricing obviously effecting consumer's personal calculations of value of course

Without a doubt, both GTX 1080 and 1070 are memory bandwidth starved, but it will be hard to gauge based off gp106 GTX 1060 due to its uneven cut from go104, that being 50% cores, 75% ROPs.

 

[IEC]

I'll be very happy if the 6GB model hits $250. It'll mean it's a great time to be a mainstream PC gamer again if it turns out to be true.

 

[Azix]

These people were relying on hope and past patterns of AMD moving to a new node faster that occurred before Nvidia overtook AMD in R&D and GPU product cadence. These same people are blaming GloFo for RX 480's short comings, when in reality RX 480 is mimicking the last several releases of AMD cards - being strapped with inadequate cooling (R9 290x / 290), having very limited headroom (Fiji and reference R9 290x/290), and/or being inefficient vs. the competition (Fury X).

reference is always inadequate. Doesn't matter which brand.

we'll see where the OC ends after custom cards come out. I'm mixed on overclocking "headroom". What matters is the performance at the end of the day, not how much gigahoitz.

fury x vs reference 980ti efficiency was pretty close.

I don't know about the glofo hate. If 480 is full chip and they don't even have enough bad chips to be ready to launch 470, yields have to be pretty decent. Maybe the process could be refined for higher clocks. If those higher clocks come, the 480 value would be rather hard to believe.

But hopefully they do come. That would give AMD some refined products to launch later on at a better price. A refresh with significant gains.

 

[JustMe21]

To me, the 1060 offers GTX 970 performance while using less power than a GTX 960. I guess I'll wait to see what the reviews show.

I think the biggest problem will be availability. If there's supply problems with the GTX 1070 and 1080 cards, there's bound to be supply issues with the 1060 as well. We've still yet to see $379 GTX 1070 and $599 GTX 1080 cards.

 

[Newbian]

To me, the 1060 offers GTX 970 performance while using less power than a GTX 960. I guess I'll wait to see what the reviews show.

I think the biggest problem will be availability. If there's supply problems with the GTX 1070 and 1080 cards, there's bound to be supply issues with the 1060 as well. We've still yet to see $379 GTX 1070 and $599 GTX 1080 cards.

There are $399 1070's and $619 1080's for awhile so $20 over msrp is not bad right now when they have no competition as amd needs to release vega in q4 as has been suggested before and now it sounds like it's pushed back to early 2017.

So until then it's hard to reduce prices if there is no reason to.

 

[Pheran]

Pretty shocked if the 6GB version doesn't have SLI?! This is a mainstream gaming card, it will probably sell the most among gamers and yet they remove the SLI?!

Exactly, it's a mainstream card. News flash: the mainstream doesn't use SLI. I'd bet that the percentage of gaming PCs with more than one video card is laughably small.

 

[Azix]

nda? its the 7th. Is this another sometime during the day nda lift?

 

[Sweepr]

Prices out guys. $249 for AIBs, $299 for the special limited Founder's Edition:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060: 249 USD, 299 USD Founders Edition

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 features 1280 CUDA cores and 6GB GDDR5 memory across 192-bit interface. The boost clock is around 1710 MHz, but we have already seen this card reaching 2 GHz, so it will be interesting to see how close this puts it to GTX 1070.

http://videocardz.com/61917/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-to-cost-249-299-usd

 

[linkgoron]

nda? its the 7th. Is this another sometime during the day nda lift?

Previous NDAs have been 9am EST (both AMD and Nvidia), so I'm assuming that it will be a similar NDA lift.

 

[Sweepr]

nda? its the 7th. Is this another sometime during the day nda lift?

A friend told me there reviews could take a few more days, but we might see some new performance figures by NVIDIA today. I still hope NDA lifts today.

 

[StereoPixel]

rx480 is dead

 

[ultima_trev]

A Founders Edition for a mainstream card? Seriously?

I can see it now:

GTX 1050: $150 custom, $200 Founders Edition
GTX 1080 Ti: $800 custom, $900 Founders Edition
GTX Titan P: $1200 Founders Edition only, no custom versions allowed

No reduced prices for GTX 1060, 1070 or 1080.

 

[Silverforce11]

Hard to believe they are pulling off the Reference edition price jacking again.. I guess it worked really well for the 1070 and 1080. More $$, can't say no to that!

 

[Sweepr]

Looks like Founder's Edition will be a limited edition here. Really can't wait to see what AIBs are planning.

 

[Silverforce11]

rx480 is dead

Not if the reference 1060 is $299.

^ A simple undervolt and it runs 5% faster while using 10-30W less (Proof: http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-undervolting-performance_183699).

Custom RX 480 is due out this month. Clocked at 1.3ghz with a good cooler, that's GTX980 performance right there.

It's going to come down to price on these custom RX 480s.

 

[Silverforce11]

Also mods, can we combine the 1060 thread? Discussing the same thing for this upcoming launch in multiple threads is getting silly.

 

[Sweepr]

Not if the reference 1060 is $299.

AIBs will cost $249+ and FE is 'special limited':

Expect OCed AIBs for less than FE's pricing. 120W, Geforce GTX 980 performance and $249 for the 6GB model is a big deal and considering the strong brand they have, it will sell like crazy.

Also mods, can we combine the 1060 thread? Discussing the same thing for this upcoming launch in multiple threads is getting silly.

Mine was first.

 

[majord]

It looks like really agressive pricing if true. The question is, are prices actually going to start at $249? Or is it going to be like 1070

 

[Silverforce11]

AIBs will cost $249 and FE is 'special limited':

Expect OCed AIBs for less than FE's pricing. 120W, Geforce GTX 980 performance and $249 for the 6GB is a big deal and considering the strong brand they have, it will sell like crazy.

Mine was first.

So now a reference card is special limited edition? Nice marketing.

I can't say for everywhere else, but in my part of the world, most of the custom 1070 and 1080 are priced the same as the reference card, a few below it a bit, a few above it. None are at MSRP.

In fact, there's still no MSRP 1070 or 1080 going around, correct? Where can you buy a 1070 for $379 and a 1080 for $599? I haven't checked in awhile, maybe this mythical variant exists.

Why do you guys expect if NV is doing the same thing, MSRP & FE dual pricing, that you somehow think custom 1060s that are BETTER than the reference card to sell for 25% less at MSRP?

 

[selni]

So now a reference card is special limited edition? Nice marketing.

I can't say for everywhere else, but in my part of the world, most of the custom 1070 and 1080 are priced the same as the reference card, a few below it a bit, a few above it. None are at MSRP.

In fact, there's still no MSRP 1070 or 1080 going around, correct? Where can you buy a 1070 for $379 and a 1080 for $599? I haven't checked in awhile, maybe this mythical variant exists.

Why do you guys expect if NV is doing the same thing, MSRP & FE dual pricing, that you somehow think custom 1060s that are BETTER than the reference card to sell for 25% less at MSRP?

They're not at the founders edition MSRP either though in Aus, they're a good $100US higher or so. Typical Australia tax situation I think rather than directly related to the founders premium.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

rx480 is dead

Not to me.

480 should perform similar, still be slightly cheaper and you can use freesync. Might be faster in dx12, certainly won't be slower.

The 480 might use 40 to 50% more power, but that difference is only 50W, and a 480 still uses way less than actual high end cards.

Of course I'm not interested in reference models of either.

 

[Newbian]

So now a reference card is special limited edition? Nice marketing.

I can't say for everywhere else, but in my part of the world, most of the custom 1070 and 1080 are priced the same as the reference card, a few below it a bit, a few above it. None are at MSRP.

In fact, there's still no MSRP 1070 or 1080 going around, correct? Where can you buy a 1070 for $379 and a 1080 for $599? I haven't checked in awhile, maybe this mythical variant exists.

Why do you guys expect if NV is doing the same thing, MSRP & FE dual pricing, that you somehow think custom 1060s that are BETTER than the reference card to sell for 25% less at MSRP?

Right now newegg has both the 1070 and 1080 with versions just $20 over msrp when they are in stock so hopefully the release of the 1060 helps bring them down to the full msrp.

But yea... stop with the damn fe crap.