Geforce GTX 1060 Thread: faster than RX 480, 120W, $249

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TeknoBug

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Nvidia just killed AMD in the $200-300 market.$250 for 1060 6gb is very reasonable against AMDs $240 RX480.Lower TDP,15% better perf(acc to Nvidia),better overclockability,much lower cpu overhead and almost same price although AIB cards will obviously be $20-30 more.
The GTX1060 won't be in that price bracket. People that want a somewhat similar performance but cheaper will go get the RX 480.
 

Shivansps

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Im more intrigued about the missing ram chips... was this a 256-bit chip and cut it down to 192bits? maybe there is a planned 256bit 8GB 1060TI?
 

guachi

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The 120W power consumption for that level of performance is great. But going by history the RX 480 will probably soon be the faster card and certainly in DX12. Looking forward to the benchmarks.

I've seen reviews... somewhere... that show the 480 faster than a 980 in dx12 games by 5-10% already and slower in dx11 games.

I think it will be incumbent on review sites to have a nice array of both dx11 and dx12 games benchmarked for readers to make an informed choice on what to buy.
 

Sweepr

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Going in knowing these cards aren't that powerful and are 2 year stop-gaps, it's easy to recommend the $200 480 because 1060 $249-299 is 25%-50% more expensive. That makes 1060 overpriced for the level of performance it has.

No one is forcing you to buy a FE, there will be custom models at launch as well according to BabelTechReviews, so 50% more expensive is a fallacy. How much do you expect AIB custom Radeon RX 480, the one people are actually looking forward to buy (cooler, less noisy and possibly more OCing headroom), to cost? You can add at least $10-30 for a nice custom model, so we're already talking >$249 if you want the 8GB model. At the end of the day even if Geforce GTX 1060 is a little bit more expensive, it will sell like crazy thanks to the NVIDIA brand and (possibly) lower power consumption + better performance in current games at stock.

In fact, there's still no MSRP 1070 or 1080 going around, correct? Where can you buy a 1070 for $379 and a 1080 for $599? I haven't checked in awhile, maybe this mythical variant exists.

Geforce GTX 1070 often goes in stock for $399 in Newegg, and that's with current limited supply and crazy demand. There will be price gouging with Geforce GTX 1060, no doubt, but shortly after it should settle at $249-269 for entry AIB models.

Why do you guys expect if NV is doing the same thing, MSRP & FE dual pricing, that you somehow think custom 1060s that are BETTER than the reference card to sell for 25% less at MSRP?

Some custom cards could very well cross $299, but that doesn't mean all will. Plenty of choices.
 
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Sweepr

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Any word on when we will see real benchmarks, not just "leaks"?

Not today, unfortunately. We might have to wait until July 19:

It looks like July will be a very interesting month as by the 19th, we will bring a full performance review of the Founders Edition of the GTX 1060, and we hope to be able to also compare it with aftermarket versions of the RX 480. Stay tuned to BTR! We are going to have a GTX 1060 related contest which we will announce later on today.

www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1060-Preview-Pascal-GP106
 

plopke

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Why is everyone saying this will kill the RX 480 , no doubt that it will sell a lot since it has a NVIDIA badge , but the 960 GTX was quiet expensive in many parts of the world. The 1060 starts more expensive from the get go, so very curious to all the benchmarks and DX12 performance reviews .

But so many people just going around yelling this is the end for AMD . Well if that would happen why are people so doom glooming happy about that,... NVIDIA cards have never been so ridicules expensive

And yes I will buy either a RX 480 AIB or 1060GTX AIB , price/performance and DX12/Vulcan will be decision making factors.
 
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Keysplayr

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Im more intrigued about the missing ram chips... was this a 256-bit chip and cut it down to 192bits? maybe there is a planned 256bit 8GB 1060TI?

Hmmm. Definitely looks like a 256 bit PCB to me. I think this def leaves room for a cut down GP104 on this card. Can you say 1060Ti at 1600cc and 8GB GDDR5 256bit 8ghz mem?
Priced at 330 ish area.
 
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Keysplayr

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I've seen reviews... somewhere... that show the 480 faster than a 980 in dx12 games by 5-10% already and slower in dx11 games.

I think it will be incumbent on review sites to have a nice array of both dx11 and dx12 games benchmarked for readers to make an informed choice on what to buy.

I think as many games as possible should be benchmarked.
 

zinfamous

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No one is forcing you to buy a FE, so 50% more expensive is a fallacy.

FE is the only version available at the moment. So if you only want Nvidia and these new models, then yeah, you have no other choice than FE right now.

It's not a fallacy when the notion of choice is a fantasy.
 

Sweepr

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FE is the only version available at the moment. So if you only want Nvidia and these new models, then yeah, you have no other choice than FE right now. It's not a fallacy when the notion of choice is a fantasy.

It is.

Now it’s Nvidia’s turn to unveil their response as the GTX 1060 6GB starting at $249 which will also be available as their reference Founder’s Edition for $299, and also including custom boards starting July 19 from Nvidia’s add-in card partners. These include ASUS, Colorful, EVGA, Gainward, GALAX, Gigabyte, Innovision 3D, MSI, Palit, PNY and Zotac.

www.babeltechreviews.com/gtx-10606gb-will-available-july-19-249
 

Keysplayr

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Why is everyone saying this will kill the RX 480 , no doubt that it will sell a lot since it has a NVIDIA badge , but the 960 GTX was quiet expensive in many parts of the world. The 1060 starts more expensive from the get go, so very curious to all the benchmarks and DX12 performance reviews .

But so many people just going around yelling this is the end for AMD . Well if that would happen why are people so doom glooming happy about that,... NVIDIA cards have never been so ridicules expensive

And yes I will buy either a RX 480 AIB or 1060GTX AIB , price/performance and DX12/Vulcan will be decision making factors.

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/41071-nvidia-officially-announces-the-new-geforce-gtx-1060

"According to Nvidia, the new Geforce GTX 1060 is on average 15 percent faster in some top gaming titles and over 75 percent more power efficient than the closest competitive product, which puts a lot of pressure on AMD's recently launched Radeon RX 480 graphics card. Nvidia also claims that you will get a "performance of the GTX 980", and with a price starting at US $249, Nvidia might have a winner in the mid-range market. "

Notice this states "average" of 15% faster in "some" top gaming titles.
It did not say "up to" like we usually see.
At the same time, they use the "some top gaming titles" which could freaking mean anything and open to all kinds of interpretations depending on who reads it.

And then, we have them saying you get the performance of a GTX 980, not close to GTX 980 or greater than GTX 970 but performance of the GTX 980.
 
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topmounter

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Why is everyone saying this will kill the RX 480 , no doubt that it will sell a lot since it has a NVIDIA badge , but the 960 GTX was quiet expensive in many parts of the world. The 1060 starts more expensive from the get go, so very curious to all the benchmarks and DX12 performance reviews .

But so many people just going around yelling this is the end for AMD . Well if that would happen why are people so doom glooming happy about that,... NVIDIA cards have never been so ridicules expensive

And yes I will buy either a RX 480 AIB or 1060GTX AIB , price/performance and DX12/Vulcan will be decision making factors.

It should be interesting to see what Asus, Sapphire, etc. can do at <=$299 with each platform.
 

AnandThenMan

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According to Nvidia being the key phrase. Let's wait for reviews before making sweeping statements about performance, AMD's demise etc.
 

Sweepr

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Some updates from NVIDIA:

- GTX 980-level performance, twice the energy efficiency in VR
- Average 15% faster and 75% more efficient than closest competitor
- GP106 GPU, 120W, $249 MSRP ($299 special limited Founder's Edition)
- 1,280 CUDA cores, 6GB of GDDR5 at 8Gbps, and a boost clock of 1.7GHz
- Founder's Edition can be easily overclocked to 2GHz with single 6-pin power
- Founder's Edition will be available at nvidia.com, custom boards from ASUS, Colorful, EVGA, Gainward, Galaxy, Gigabyte, Innovision 3D, MSI, Palit, PNY and Zotac on sale July 19th
- Reviews July 19th at 14:00 BST / 15:00 CET

NVIDIA said:
The GTX 1060 has been crafted for speed and optimized for performance per watt. Manufactured on the leading-edge FinFET 16nm process, the GTX 1060 delivers GTX 980-level performance and twice the energy efficiency in VR. It consumes only 120 watts of power while driving the latest VR and DirectX 11/12 PC games at blistering speeds.

The GTX 1060 features 1,280 CUDA cores, 6GB of GDDR5 memory running at 8Gbps and a boost clock of 1.7GHz, which can be easily overclocked to 2GHz for further performance. Across the top gaming titles, GTX 1060 is on average 15 percent faster and over 75 percent more power efficient than the closest competitive product..

GTX 1060 custom boards will be available starting July 19 from add-in card partners worldwide, including ASUS, Colorful, EVGA, Gainward, Galaxy, Gigabyte, Innovision 3D, MSI, Palit, PNY and Zotac. MSRP will start at $249.

The special limited GeForce GTX 1060 Founder&#8217;s Edition board&#8212;designed and built by NVIDIA&#8212;will be available starting July 19 for $299 at www.nvidia.com only. The GeForce GTX 1060 Founder&#8217;s Edition is crafted with premium materials and components, including a faceted die-cast aluminum body machine finished for strength and rigidity and a thermal solution designed to run cool and quiet. Like the GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 Founder&#8217;s Edition boards, a dual-FETs power supply is used to improve power efficiency, along with a low impedance power delivery network and custom voltage regulators.

www.hardocp.com/article/2016/07/07/official_nvidia_geforce_gtx_1060_announcement#.V355hDW1GXd

Fudzilla said:
Based on Nvidia's 16nm GP106 Pascal GPU, the Geforce GTX 1060 will feature 1280 CUDA cores, 80 TMUs and 48 ROPs as well as come with 6GB of GDDR5 memory paired up with a 192-bit memory interface. The GPU works at up to 1.7GHz for the GPU Boost clock and Nvidia claims it can go as high as 2.0GHz with overclocking, which is an impressive number.

As noted, select review sites got the samples of the new GTX 1060 and should have plenty of time to bring reviews when NDA gets lifted on Tuesday, July 19th at 14:00 BST / 15:00 CET.

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/41071-nvidia-officially-announces-the-new-geforce-gtx-1060
 
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HOOfan 1

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Well, I'll believe this card is really $249 when I see it.

I fully expect the card will be +/- 5% of the 480 and will realistically be $300 if in stock.

Which means that the 480 at a cheaper price and more availability, at least in July and August, will mean I will be getting a 480.

The in stock RX 480s are going for $300+ on Amazon right now.

Looking at NCIX US site, there is one card in stock for $270.
One card in stock for $380 and one card in stock for $350
 
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SimianR

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I don't think any sites should be reporting a price of $249 until we actually see cards there. How many 1070's/1080's can be had for the MSRP? This founders edition pricing on a midrange card is pretty lame. It was even a stretch on the previous two, but you could see how they could get away with it on a high end card that has no competition in its price bracket. I still see people arguing on forums that NVIDIA isn't gouging because the 1070 is a $370 card yet its never been available at that price.
 

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Geforce GTX 1070 often goes in stock for $399 in Newegg, and that's with current limited supply and crazy demand. There will be price gouging with Geforce GTX 1060, no doubt, but shortly after it should settle at $249-269 for entry AIB models.

Eh, no not often. There is only one AIB 1070 on Newegg listed for $399 and its the Gigabyte Windforce. Been out of stock for awhile now. All others are $429+, been waiting to get one. However, I might pick up a Ti for cheaper.
 

Sweepr

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Eh, no not often. There is only one AIB 1070 on Newegg listed for $399 and its the Gigabyte Windforce. Been out of stock for awhile now. All others are $429+, been waiting to get one. However, I might pick up a Ti for cheaper.

Gigabyte as well? It was the MSI Aero a few days ago.
 

Keysplayr

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Need some napkin math Masters for a minute.
Extrapolating 1060 performance from 1080 performance.

GTX1080..... 2560cc.....64ROPs.....320Gbps 10Ghz 256bit.....1607Mhz...boost 1700
GTX1060.....1280cc......48ROPs.....192Gbps 7Ghz 192bit........1506Mhz....boost 1700
 

HOOfan 1

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I've seen reviews... somewhere... that show the 480 faster than a 980 in dx12 games by 5-10% already and slower in dx11 games.

I think it will be incumbent on review sites to have a nice array of both dx11 and dx12 games benchmarked for readers to make an informed choice on what to buy.

The reviews I have seen only show it is that much faster in Hitman Dx12

guru3D numbers

Rise of the Tomb Raider DX12

980 20% faster than RX 480 at 1080p
980 27% faster than RX 480 at 1440p

Hitman DX12

RX 480 21% faster than 980 at 1080p
RX 480 26% faster than 980 at 1440p

Total War: Warhammer

RX 480 2.6% faster than 980 at 1080p
RX 480 and 980 dead even at 1440p

Ashes of the Singularity

RX 480 and 980 dead even at both 1080p and 1440p

Tomshardware numbers

Ashes of the Singularity

980 8.6% than RX 480 at 1080p
980 9% faster than RX 480 at 1440p


Techpowerups numbers

Rise of the Tomb Raider DX12

980 14.5% faster than RX 480 at 1080p
980 8.8% faster than the RX 480 at 1440p
 

boozzer

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NDA lifted on specs and launch date I guess? Announcement of an announcement type thing.
I don't know how to express how useless that is without breaking the rules.
The reviews I have seen only show it is that much faster in Hitman Dx12

guru3D numbers

Rise of the Tomb Raider DX12

980 20% faster than RX 480 at 1080p
980 27% faster than RX 480 at 1440p

Hitman DX12

RX 480 21% faster than 980 at 1080p
RX 480 26% faster than 980 at 1440p

Total War: Warhammer

RX 480 2.6% faster than 980 at 1080p
RX 480 and 980 dead even at 1440p

Ashes of the Singularity

RX 480 and 980 dead even at both 1080p and 1440p

Tomshardware numbers

Ashes of the Singularity

980 8.6% than RX 480 at 1080p
980 9% faster than RX 480 at 1440p


Techpowerups numbers

Rise of the Tomb Raider DX12

980 14.5% faster than RX 480 at 1080p
980 8.8% faster than the RX 480 at 1440p
look at those numbers. when you take out the outliners, what do you see? 480 = 980. GG no re
 
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