Geforce GTX 1060 Thread: faster than RX 480, 120W, $249

[sze5003]

Skip all the noise and hype and focus on fundamentals. You either buy a budget mainstream card as a stop-gap and upgrade again -- which means the goal should be to spend as little as possible -- or if you want to keep the card for 3-4 years, you just buy something more powerful right away. This is where a $199 RX 480 is a great value to save money, but if you want to get a 1440p monitor, look into higher end cards.

AMD Sapphire Fury $299
MSI Armor 2X $365 after promo code EMCELFN65

The Fury beats 1060 by more than 1060 beats the RX 480. The minute you start spending $ above $250 on a 480/1060, the price/performance diminishes greatly against Fury/980Ti.

A 1450mhz+ GTX980Ti will wipe the floor with RX 480/1060 at 1440p. Almost 50% faster than a 980 = 1060 is!

Since you waited this long on the 7970, I'd go either a cheap RX480 or just step up to the GTX980Ti/1070/Fury. RX 480/1060 for $270-280 sit in no man's land for you. I wouldn't buy either of those.

Also, the 1060 is losing to the 480 in DX12/Vulkan games implying there isn't any future proofing in that card either.

Look at this -> 1060 is about 55% faster than an R9 280X (your 7970Ghz card).

An after-market 980Ti is 2-2.2X faster than an R9 280X.

980ti overclocked is a very good card and it often trades blows with a 1070 OC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3INh5i5waSw

That means you are spending $365 for a 980Ti with a 119% performance increase over your card, but $250 for a 55% faster 1060.

980Ti upgrade path for you => $3.07 per each 1% increase over your card
1060 upgrade path for you => $4.54 per each 1% increase over your card

The 1060 isn't a good upgrade for you at all (and same applies for a $250-260 RX 480).

If you plan on gaming at 1080p 60Hz, then go for the cheapest RX 480 and just undervolt it and assign a custom fan profile. Then set aside the $$$ towards a new GPU in 2 years. 1060 at $250 makes sense over a $240 RX 480 8GB but it's still not as good as the $200 RX 480 4GB. The extra 7-10% performance advantage on the 1060 won't make any difference for you in games especially since 1060 loses under DX12. Given your situation and desire to go 1440p, Fury or 980Ti are actually both better deals than either the $250-270 RX 480/1060.

You make a good point. I wish I had pulled the trigger on the 4gb sapphire that week when I got an alert for the reference model on Amazon. But I wanted to use the $30 off coupon which didn't work anymore.

I'm thinking of getting this monitor

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?i...BYVh-UWrI980cz9LB-z5ZhoCUyLw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

I may just be too lazy to upgrade to the next wave but I want to see the AIB 480's first.

If I do get that monitor I feel like I should go for a 1070 instead.

 

[BSim500]

All these reviews point out the very problem I predicted weeks ago - the 1060 and 480 are in entirely different pricing brackets and shouldn't be compared directly. Going strictly by MSRP, the most expensive RX480 is still 9% cheaper than the cheapest GTX1060.

LOL. I don't think people are falling for that "moving the goalposts" thing anymore. :sneaky: OCUK has the three cheapest £230-£240 GTX 1060's priced barely £10-£15 higher vs the three cheapest £216-£230 8GB RX 480's (the previously sub £200 4GB version of the RX480 seem to have become virtually extinct). In many regions, they are absolutely in the same price bracket and are blatantly obviously "same class" competition given "$200" in stock RX 480's are as rare as the Dodo.

 

[crisium]

[H] said it best:

This is certainly a battle that will heat up the forums with debate for months to come.

 

[krumme]

LOL. I don't think people are falling for that "moving the goalposts" thing anymore. :sneaky: OCUK has the three cheapest £230-£240 GTX 1060's priced barely £10-£15 higher vs the three cheapest £216-£230 8GB RX 480's (the previously sub £200 4GB version of the RX480 seem to have become virtually extinct). In many regions, they are absolutely in the same price bracket and are blatantly obviously "same class" competition given "$200" in stock RX 480's are as rare as the Dodo.

Muhaha.
The only 1060 in stock at ocuk is £300
Do people really fall for that nv trick.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/search?sSearch=gtx+1060

Now for the second time. Lol

 

[Dygaza]

We used PresentMon for Vulkan and DX12.

https://github.com/GameTechDev/PresentMon

Okay thanks for clarification. Still puzzled how max fps on rx480 can go way over 200 , when game has hardcap of 200.

 

[crisium]

There was a custom cooler Gigabyte 1060 for $250. Sold out, but to be expected given it hit MSRP. So 1060 hits MSRP day 1, GP104 have not still to this day.

Hopefully this puts pressure on the AMD AIB Partners to also give us $240-$250 cards. Gotta compete with the 1060s.

 

[AtenRa]

[H] said it best:

Well it may be over in a few months when the rest of the DX-12 games hit the deck.

 

[krumme]

Nv paper launches the least futureproof card in history and some people applaud. 300£ good grief. Probably soon sold out.
Whats next 1050 gtx msrp at 130usd and sold at 260?
Ohh 140% value score at tpu. Pathetic.

 

[krumme]

10+ palit at stock at oc uk at £250. Get them now !!!!
Lol f5 f5

 

[krumme]

At those prices, and even if the card is in stock at some time we dont know, gtx 960 will stay the most important card in nv lineup. And its a card that needs 470 as compettitor. Its a huge segment the 150 usd. My take thats where most cards is sold. Remember eu is far more expensive and there is even a market outside eu/us

 

[BSim500]

Muhaha. The only 1060 in stock at ocuk is £300
Do people really fall for that nv trick.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/search?sSearch=gtx+1060

Now for the second time. Lol

Of course they'll sell out on launch day. Just like the RX480 sold out quick and prices of remaining cards shot up +15% at many retailers (with "£220" cards going for £265), but those increases were declared good "because it proved they were popular". Neat trick... As I said, this moving the goalpost thing is comical when people start reaching for "RX 480 vs 750Ti due to 1060 stock levels" mental acrobatics 'comparisons' when there were indeed $250 Newegg versions sold at launch. Any sane person will wait a few weeks for prices & stock levels of both cards to settle down before standing on their usual "daily rage" forum soapbox.

 

[hojnikb]

Can we expect any reviews from anand or is this too much to ask ?

 

[Insomniator]

Can we expect any reviews from anand or is this too much to ask ?

Sure, after the iPhone 7 and some low budget android phone reviews.

 

[Sweepr]

So faster than the RX 480 in the majority of titles today, very close in AMD Gaming Evolved DX12 titles. 50% better perf/watt according to TPU, and superior perf/mm² using a less dense proccess as well. GTX 970 sales successor?

 

[Kallogan]

1050 ti seems close to release too. No pci-e connector ?

 

[AtenRa]

very close in AMD Gaming Evolved DX12 titles.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016...x_1060_founders_edition_review/1#.V45KLDXvUgk

Neutral game - Vulkan

RX 480 32% faster than GTX 1060

GameWorks game - DX-11

GTX 1060 8% faster than RX 480

Gaming Evolved Game - DX-12

RX 480 18% faster than GTX 1060

 

[fingerbob69]

RX480 minimums are dipping into stutter territory. People are saying 1060 loses in Vulkan but I'm not really seeing that here.

Maybe you should have read the actual review. [H] says the 480 gave the smoothest game-play out of the three cards tested.

 

[USER8000]

Posted in wrong thread!! Doh!!

 

[Sweepr]

That’s a significant amount when you consider its average Boost Frequency should be around 1700MHz.

On par with GTX 980 using a 1/2 the die size. ~4.35 TFLOPs vs ~5 TFLOPs as well, so no IPC regression found. Also available day #1 starting at $249, despite some claims here that all custom models would start at Founder's Edition pricing. GP106 is quite impressive.

 

[antihelten]

So it would appear that the 1060 is not faster than the 980 (some reviews show 1-2% faster some show it 1-2% slower), nor is it anywhere near 15% faster or 75% more efficient than the 480, so it would seem that Nvidia's claims were quite exagarated, which is a bit of a shame, seeing as their 1070/1080 claims were actually quite accurate, but this at least gives me some hope going forward (when comparing the 1060 to the 980).

Now we just need to see some decent availability and prices and Nvidia will have a very solid card on their hands (I'd dare say it may very well end up as the top seller of this generation.)

 

[sze5003]

Posted in wrong thread!! Doh!!

Too bad pre order means nothing here in US at least for these cards. They will be sold out without a few minutes.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

The difference in conclusions from the various review sites is really interesting.

TechPowerUp is strongly in the GTX 1060 camp:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1060/31.html

Guru3D seems to skew toward the 1060 over the 480:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_1060_review,30.html

Tom's seems to skew slightly toward the 480:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal,4679-9.html

And [H] is probably the most pro 480 of the lot:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016..._1060_founders_edition_review/10#.V442GJMrKV4

So faster than the RX 480 in the majority of titles today, very close in AMD Gaming Evolved DX12 titles. 50% better perf/watt according to TPU, and superior perf/mm² using a less dense proccess as well. GTX 970 sales successor?

I don't think Techpowerup can be used as a good reference. They have the 1060 consistently outperforming the GTX 980. While every other review has it slower than the 980.

Their drivers are just too out of date; that's the biggest reason for this.

Also, they did not test the RX 480 with 16.7.2 drivers, so the 480's performance/watt is not accurate.

 

[Sweepr]

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016...x_1060_founders_edition_review/1#.V45KLDXvUgk

Neutral game - Vulkan

So neutral that one of the main devs posted #BetterRed a few days ago. Also special shaders for GCN GPUs. And according to Aracnothronic NVIDIA said a few days ago that they're still working on their Vulkan implementation.

GameWorks game - DX-11
GTX 1060 8% faster than RX 480

Overall 7.5% faster with custom OCed models available day one, unlike RX 480.

Very nice OCing headroom on top:

At the end of the day NVIDIA has the high-end covered till Vega in 2017 and now a competitive mainstream product a few weeks after what the competitor considered 'several months advantage'. They will also have mobile GP106 in a month.

 

[Sweepr]

14-15.1% performance gains from overclocking:

Founder's Edition

MSI Gaming X

3x as much as the reference version of the competitor (5.0%):

 

[antihelten]

On par with GTX 980 using a 1/2 the die size. ~4.35 TFLOPs vs ~5 TFLOPs as well, so no IPC regression found. Also available day #1 starting at $249, despite some claims here that all custom models would start at Founder's Edition pricing. GP106 is quite impressive.

The 1060 boosts to an average of 1.84 GHz, so it's actually about 4.7 TFLOPS.

Other than that you are of course correct about "IPC".

btw do you have any links to 1060s at $250, I'm curious to see which models will be sold at that price.