Geforce GTX 1060 Thread: faster than RX 480, 120W, $249

[Sweepr]

New comparison from BabelTechReview, probably deserves a new thread:

Generally the overclocked GTX 980 sits just above the overclocked GTX 1060, which in turn sits above the overclocked RX 480, just as the reference clocked cards do. In fact, the superb overclocking abilities of the GTX 1060 allow it to win in more games overclocked over the overclocked RX 480 than it did at stock.

www.babeltechreviews.com/rx-480-vs-gtx-1060-vs-gtx-980-overclocked-showdown

Bottom line overclocked vs overclocked it's faster than RX 480 in almost all titles tested, sometimes by a large margin.

 

[Silverforce11]

New comparison from BabelTechReview, probably deserves a new thread

Yes, it deserves a thread. So we can remind everybody about the owner of that site, getting banned from here years ago for being an NV shill & troll.

His data is about as reliable as coming from yourself.

 

[Sweepr]

Yes, it deserves a thread.

As you wish Silver, will be created later.

Probably more reliable than the Golem results.

 

[Sweepr]

So BenchLife says there's GTX 1050 and GTX 1050 Ti in the works.

https://benchlife.info/amd-radeon-rx470-rx460-launch-in-aug-07302016

 

[Arachnotronic]

Yes, it deserves a thread. So we can remind everybody about the owner of that site, getting banned from here years ago for being an NV shill & troll.

His data is about as reliable as coming from yourself.

Are you calling Sweepr an "NV shill and troll"? :thumbsdown:

 

[Abwx]

Probably more reliable than the Golem results.

That s hollow words and blatant bias, Golem are no less reliable than Computerbase, but certainly that for you they are not reliable because they are not known Nvidia fans like the guy whom you posted the "benches"...

 

[brandonmatic]

A good test for whether 4GB is going to be a problem in the future is to look at whether 3GB is a problem now. The 280x/7970 have 3GB and have held up well in terms of GCN architecture in newer games. I don't see that 3GB has been a major problem at 1080 or 1440 in current games so far. Even the 1060 3GB may not be a huge problem going forward.

 

[Silverforce11]

Are you calling Sweepr an "NV shill and troll"? :thumbsdown:

If that's what you took from that, then it's your prerogative. I meant it as a confirmed shill & troll doing benches is unreliable, un-respected. For Sweepr to suggest ABT is better than Golem.de, a respected German site, means he has no comprehension of validity of the results. As such, he may as well start his own review site and publish random numbers.

On a very basic level, Golem.de's editors don't go on their own forum and bash one vendor repeatedly like ABT's owner does with his focus group over there; an echo chamber of anti-AMD hostilities.

If you trust those benches, sure, go ahead and post it so we can all have a good laugh.

 

[Sweepr]

If that's what you took from that, then it's your prerogative. I meant it as a confirmed shill & troll doing benches is unreliable, un-respected.

Confirmed by who? All I see is anger because OCed GTX 1060 destroyed OCed RX 480 in their benchmarks.

For Sweepr to suggest ABT is better than Golem.de, a respected German site, means he has no comprehension of validity of the results. As such, he may as well start his own review site and publish random numbers.

Sure, any random website becomes 'respected' as long as it fits a certain POV. I'm saving this post just in case one of their future articles makes you change your mind.

 

[Keysplayr]

Yes, it deserves a thread. So we can remind everybody about the owner of that site, getting banned from here years ago for being an NV shill & troll.

His data is about as reliable as coming from yourself.

Yeeeahhhh. About that..

If you are referring to Apoppin (not 100% sure, sorry), he was the largest AMD proponent on the forums bar none. AMD fan. We often joked with each other that he was the AMD fan and I was Nvidias.

So, unless he switched teams ( and you know that never really happens. I mean for real ) I'd trust those benchmarks as it probably pained him to do them.

 

[zinfamous]

Yeeeahhhh. About that..

If you are referring to Apoppin (not 100% sure, sorry), he was the largest AMD proponent on the forums bar none. AMD fan. We often joked with each other that he was the AMD fan and I was Nvidias.

So, unless he switched teams ( and you know that never really happens. I mean for real ) I'd trust those benchmarks as it probably pained him to do them.

he probably means Rollo, whom the admins discovered and confirmed to be an nVidia marketing tool.

 

[Keysplayr]

he probably means Rollo, whom the admins discovered and confirmed to be an nVidia marketing tool.

Rollo doesn't, nor ever has owned ABT. So I don't think he means him.

 

[Paratus]

Yeeeahhhh. About that..

If you are referring to Apoppin (not 100% sure, sorry), he was the largest AMD proponent on the forums bar none. AMD fan. We often joked with each other that he was the AMD fan and I was Nvidias.

So, unless he switched teams ( and you know that never really happens. I mean for real ) I'd trust those benchmarks as it probably pained him to do them.

I was about to ask if he meant Apoppin. Because Apoppin was about as anti-NV as was possible back then due to his hatred of guerrilla marketing, aka Rollo.

Was he actually banned here?

 

[zinfamous]

Rollo doesn't, nor ever has owned ABT. So I don't think he means him.

Yeah I have no idea about that, just assuming that's who he was referring to.

 

[Keysplayr]

I was about to ask if he meant Apoppin. Because Apoppin was about as anti-NV as was possible back then due to his hatred of guerrilla marketing, aka Rollo.

Was he actually banned here?

It's been so long. I don't remember. I think he just left at first, then returned to confront slanderers here, then maybe banned? Unsure. He did show condemnation for Anandtech (as many do) but that was not immediately.
He left alienbabeltech and now does babeltech reviews? AFAIK.

 

[IllogicalGlory]

One good example is the game Just Cause 3. It maybe a DX11 game, but uses many DX12 features already (source - http://www.dsogaming.com/news/just-...ing-dx12-pc-exclusive-dx12-features-revealed/). Now if you go look at the benchmarks of this game, Maxwell/Pascal based cards which support CR and ROV perform better than its competing products.

Not really true.

In summary, the RX 480 is doing very well in this game, it even beats the 1060 and gets very close to the 980 Ti, even though it has no extra DX12 features. Some other cards fare not so well, but still very close to the average (meaning the performance summary at 1080p). Fury X is basically where it should be. It's actually slightly better as the 980 Ti is less than 10% faster. Fury is 0.4% slower than 980 when on average it is merely 1.8% faster, so a 2% or so delta. 390 is normally 1% faster than 970, here it is 0.8% slower, so basically the same delta as the Fury. If what you say is true, it looks like the advantage Maxwell gains is about 2%.

All in all, it looks like the performance is about equal to the average at 1080p, with a special advantage to the 480 (relative to all other cards), and a special disadvantage to 1060 (relative to 980).

 

[zinfamous]

It's been so long. I don't remember. I think he just left at first, then returned to confront slanderers here, then maybe banned? Unsure. He did show condemnation for Anandtech (as many do) but that was not immediately.
He left alienbabeltech and now does babeltech reviews? AFAIK.

Was he the guy that recently wrote that "Vast Corruption at Anandtech!" article then posted it here under a new account?

 

[Paratus]

It's been so long. I don't remember. I think he just left at first, then returned to confront slanderers here, then maybe banned? Unsure. He did show condemnation for Anandtech (as many do) but that was not immediately.
He left alienbabeltech and now does babeltech reviews? AFAIK.

Damn. I was wondering why Alienbabeltech was now Babeltech.

Was he the guy that recently wrote that "Vast Corruption at Anandtech!" article then posted it here under a new account?

Sounds vaguely familiar. I apparently missed some drama.

(I liked Mark because we were some of the last guys on AGP P4 rigs back in the day.)

 

[rh71]

nvm, starting a new thread

 

[William Gaatjes]

249 dollars it is mentioned in the OP. At my usual supplier: alternate.nl , prices range here in the Netherlands from 309 Euro to 389 Euro for the GTX 1060 custom boards. That is ~345 USD to ~434 USD.

The 309 Euro model has a 6 pin connector and is from Asus :
ASUS TURBO-GTX1060-6G
It has DVI, 2x HDMI, 2x Displayport.

But almost all GTX1060 cards are out of stock except one. And no delivery date available.

 

[railven]

It's been so long. I don't remember. I think he just left at first, then returned to confront slanderers here, then maybe banned? Unsure. He did show condemnation for Anandtech (as many do) but that was not immediately.
He left alienbabeltech and now does babeltech reviews? AFAIK.

Appopin flipped his wig, twice now. For some odd reason I followed that train wreck from the shadows mostly because after he left here he accused this site of having a shadowy AMD-Shill base/HQ or whatever which I defended against, though now I'd reconsider that haha - mostly because AMD basically bought the front page here at ATF which was just odd.

Anyways, Mark accused people here of being AMD shills because he gaffed on his hardware review or something, to be exact he claimed that the 6990 had power issues or something but it turned out to be his motherboard was the issue which was fixed with a BIOS update. He left here after people starting asking him to retract his incorrect statements, but as he was leaving he basically called everyone here an AMD shill and burned the bridge.

Over on ABT, he continued the AMD-hate bandwagon (which is odd because I read here he was a resident AMD fanboy) after AMD cut him off from review samples for breaking NDA (which he claims he didn't). He then burned down ABT bridge after a few server mishaps, he accused the server admin of never supporting him and left to do his own website.

Haha. I couldn't keep track after his second jump. (When work is slow, I got nothing to do but they started banning a lot of sites with "gaming" in the tags so I couldn't chase him even if I wanted to.)

I think now he's just regarded as an old miser with no real credibility but his reviews pop up here and there.

TL;DR:
Mark burned some bridges, hates AMD now, and believes ATF to be AMD-Shill HQ so buyer beware his reviews/opinions.

EDIT: Oh, reading some of the posts. I really wouldn't want to dig up the shills accusations. AMD was caught red handed here. A few posters had belonged to the AMD whatever it's called, got the whole kit didn't disclose and were going around spreading pro-AMD posts until it caught up to them. I believe they were banned. Mark isn't an NV-Shill, from what I've seen. But he got blacklisted by AMD and I think that is the motivation for his anti-AMD stance. He is definitely anti-AMD, and I personally wouldn't take his reviews/opinions seriously.



Rollo is just amusing. Seeing his postings over at ABT, he has a sense of pissing you off which is like level 100 troll. Last I saw he resorted to flinging poop at Mark from ABT haha.

 

[Paratus]

Appopin flipped his wig, twice now. For some odd reason I followed that train wreck from the shadows mostly because after he left here he accused this site of having a shadowy AMD-Shill base/HQ or whatever which I defended against, though now I'd reconsider that haha - mostly because AMD basically bought the front page here at ATF which was just odd.

Anyways, Mark accused people here of being AMD shills because he gaffed on his hardware review or something, to be exact he claimed that the 6990 had power issues or something but it turned out to be his motherboard was the issue which was fixed with a BIOS update. He left here after people starting asking him to retract his incorrect statements, but as he was leaving he basically called everyone here an AMD shill and burned the bridge.

Over on ABT, he continued the AMD-hate bandwagon (which is odd because I read here he was a resident AMD fanboy) after AMD cut him off from review samples for breaking NDA (which he claims he didn't). He then burned down ABT bridge after a few server mishaps, he accused the server admin of never supporting him and left to do his own website.

Haha. I couldn't keep track after his second jump. (When work is slow, I got nothing to do but they started banning a lot of sites with "gaming" in the tags so I couldn't chase him even if I wanted to.)

I think now he's just regarded as an old miser with no real credibility but his reviews pop up here and there.

TL;DR:
Mark burned some bridges, hates AMD now, and believes ATF to be AMD-Shill HQ so buyer beware his reviews/opinions.

EDIT: Oh, reading some of the posts. I really wouldn't want to dig up the shills accusations. AMD was caught red handed here. A few posters had belonged to the AMD whatever it's called, got the whole kit didn't disclose and were going around spreading pro-AMD posts until it caught up to them. I believe they were banned. Mark isn't an NV-Shill, from what I've seen. But he got blacklisted by AMD and I think that is the motivation for his anti-AMD stance. He is definitely anti-AMD, and I personally wouldn't take his reviews/opinions seriously.



Rollo is just amusing. Seeing his postings over at ABT, he has a sense of pissing you off which is like level 100 troll. Last I saw he resorted to flinging poop at Mark from ABT haha.

Apoppin was incredibly anti-shill. I'm guessing if there were actual AMD shills found here the sense of betrayal is what drove his behavior. He spent a lot of time lambasting NV for that style marketing.

Rollo was in class by himself. There's some serious whoppers from around the time the GTX 7800 512mb came out if you are interested in searching.

I think ATVCG is actually a bit more subdued and productive now than a decade ago. A testament to the increased moderation.

 

[railven]

Apoppin was incredibly anti-shill. I'm guessing if there were actual AMD shills found here the sense of betrayal is what drove his behavior. He spent a lot of time lambasting NV for that style marketing.

That would make sense. I personally never understood why he was known as such an AMD-supporter to go stark-crazy against them. Even if he was blacklisted it didn't add up. But if he was that anti-shill, I guess that would make sense.

AMD had a promotion going and I doubt they told their participates "keep this hush hush" because that's basically how they got caught ("hey guys check out this stuff I just bought." "Odd, that looks exactly like the promotion AMD is asking people to sign up to receive free to review." "Gotta go!"). So while I'm sure AMD did some secret shilling, it was never to the levels I think he made himself believe there was. (AMD buying the front page of AT was basically open for anyone to see and opine on, and ATF said it had no effect on their moderation teams.)

Rollo was in class by himself. I think ATVCG is actually a bit more subdued now than a decade ago. A testament to the increased moderation.

Yeah, that guy is a riot. Definitely someone I'd want on my side if ever in a forum battleground. Quick wit and what seems like an endless bag of links/resources. Haha.

 

[poofyhairguy]

New comparison from BabelTechReview, probably deserves a new thread:

Hmm pretty interesting.

One thing I think is amazing about Pascal (and why it's not just shrunk Maxwell) is how much it caught up to AMD in so many pro AMD Directx 12 titles. Games like Mordor or SW Battlefront put AMD cards ahead in the Maxwell generation, but Pascal cards do better in all those games. It seems like in particular the 1060 seemed to cut in half the so-called "console effect," which is great for gamers everywhere.

I needed a beast card for MadVR so I don't regret my 480 purchase, but my friend who I am helping build a mini ITX VR machine should probably get a 1060 instead. I personally think the 480 will age a little better than the 1060 but it won't be as dramatic as last generation and AMD has a lot of ground to catch up after OCing. The benefits of not going green team are quickly evaporating, I hope AMD treads carefully the next 12 months.

 

[railven]

The benefits of not going green team are quickly evaporating, I hope AMD treads carefully the next 12 months.

Personally following more the AMD side prior to getting a GTX, AMD always had great launch hardware/ideas. But it always felt that when the market matured to utilize that hardware/ideas, AMD was now trailing NV as NV just sat back and waited. NV would release hardware that would utilize these now mature features and just destroy AMD.

Now, I see this only as a person who buys frequently. If someone is going to hold on to a card for an ungodly amount of time like 3+ years, I can see them coasting on AMD. But that coast will be rough when NV starts to make its moves.

Async is the current cat's meow just like tessellation was. When it's featured in abundance I won't be surprised if NV is there signing it's praise and promoting it like no tomorrow. Sure it would be rather two-faced considering now, but hey that's marketing. And if Volta has async out the rear and takes advantage of the games on the market in abundance, game set match.