Geforce GTX 1080 is the best selling high end card in history (Fudzilla)

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sxr7171

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srs?

wow never knew.

just read the post above mine.

guess it wasn't.

Just using the term "cut down" differently. What I mean is that these 04 chips are half steps to the full next generation chip. Whatever term we use to describe the 04 products I know I will be skipping them personally. They get eclipsed very quickly.
 
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dark zero

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If Fury X can say that they were succesful due shortages.... why not nVIDIA? and it will be worse thanks to Apple and Qualcomm...
 

Sweepr

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Nvidia has no 16nm yield issues

The dark satanic rumour mill is flat out claiming that TSMC is getting the blame for a shortage of GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 supply issues. However Fudzilla's own sources have been on the blower to say that is untrue, the lack of availability are generated by exceptionally great sales.

The 1080's cards were launched in 27 May and the GTX 1070 on 10 June, however stocks are scarcer than an intelligent post-Brexit plan in the UK. Even the over-priced Founders' Edition cards are as rare as an apology from an Italian politician.

The rumour is that that TSMC is having trouble producing the 16nm FinFET chips that power the Pascal GPUs in the GTX 1080 and GTX 1070. However what we are seeing is that interest is overwhelming supply – the Geforce has been selling better than any high end card in the recent history.

The reason is simple – the card's performance is exceptional and if you are in the market for $500+ card you definitely want the 1080 or the 1070. AMD so far has nothing new to offer as a Fury X replacement.

www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/40994-tsmc-responsible-for-nvidia-delays

Poor yields vs Great sales, pick your choice.
 

coercitiv

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Could be a combination of both.
It is a combination of both, as OcUK staff indirectly confirmed in their forums.
You can blame the thousands of people in the UK alone who ordered a GTX 1080 immediately upon release.

This far exceeds the typical supply of any card, let alone a brand new, flagship launch card. There was no way that anybody would have been able to match this demand.
The quote above settles it: demand was through the roof. But the following quote is also crystal clear as to why the channel could not gradually satisfy the initial "shock" demand and help the cards materialize on store shelves.
We are pushing like crazy to board partners who are pushing nvidia very hard. It's a global delay!
Things are slowly transitioning into normality though, as this later post proves. Sure, this is a rather anecdotal example, but it does help understand how the situation evolved from a reseller POV, especially one who claims this:
In fact I do not have it confirmed but I believe OcUK is the no.1 reseller in whole of Europe for 1080, which is an achievement I am very proud off because UK TAM is a lot smaller than some of our European competitors.
 

coercitiv

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Do you have any numbers to prove their industry sources 'wrong'? Please, we're waiting.
Au contraire, considering the nature of the claim, the burden of proof lies with the source, otherwise the title of the thread should be clearly labeled as [Rumor].
 

Bacon1

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Do you have any numbers to prove their industry sources 'wrong'? Please, we're waiting.

Sorry that isn't how it works, you are saying they've sold tons, yet provided no numbers proving that.
 

Bacon1

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So I guess this is just as valid of an article?

The next generation of graphics cards began with a whimper.

Today, the new generation of graphics cards kicked off with a bang—at least in theory. In reality, it was sort of a disappointing whimper.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3076...-limited-stock-no-custom-cooled-variants.html

or

Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 Supply is Low

http://www.mobipicker.com/nvidia-ge...inues-to-grow-manufacturer-tsmc-to-be-blamed/

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 stock won't improve until at least late July

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52650/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-stock-improve-until-late-july/index.html

I don't see you posting those articles for some reason, so obviously you must know something else that makes fudzilla correct

Since when have we counted backordered as actual orders? I'm sure many people backordered from multiple sources and will cancel extras once one store finally ships their order.
 

MTDEW

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So if you create a website named TotalBS.com and post an article that my "sources" say that one legged pants outsell traditional pants by 2 to 1, that makes it a true/fact then?
Got it! :thumbsup:
 

Sweepr

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I don't see you posting those articles for some reason, so obviously you must know something else that makes fudzilla correct

Why should I know something else if I'm only posting an article from Fudzilla without throwing a single personal comment on the matter? It's not my fault if NVIDIA is selling a lot of cards.

I love how your posts have no actual numbers, just quotes from people guessing

How do you know they're guessing, do you have numbers to prove their sources are wrong? This looks pretty convincing:

Fudzilla said:
The dark satanic rumour mill is flat out claiming that TSMC is getting the blame for a shortage of GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 supply issues. However Fudzilla's own sources have been on the blower to say that is untrue, the lack of availability are generated by exceptionally great sales.
 

Bacon1

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Why should I know something else if I'm only posting an article from Fudzilla without throwing a single personal comment on the matter? It's not my fault if NVIDIA is selling a lot of cards.



How do you know they're guessing, do you have numbers to prove their sources are wrong? This looks pretty convincing:

Well this sounds pretty convincing too:

Now we've had an industry source tell us that there won't be a huge flood of GeForce GTX 1080 cards, from all partners, until late July or even early August. This makes sense, but it also means that the price gouging that is happening now, will continue - and could even get worse. The EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW ACX 3.0 is selling for $1999 on Amazon right now, which is absolutely nuts.

And hey they even talk about the 1060 which, what do you know, just got leaked today:

and it could lead to NVIDIA releasing the GeForce GTX 1060 earlier than anticipated, to fight off the RX 480.

So looks like they were right about that too
 

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If Fury X can say that they were succesful due shortages.... why not nVIDIA? and it will be worse thanks to Apple and Qualcomm...

You may not know this but there are real quarterly financial reports and market share data. These are really accurate and real indicators. We also have other sources such as steam HW surveys that can offer supporting evidence...or not, in the case of fury x.

See, I remember a very similar argument not so long ago. There were many people here saying that Nvidia was lying and there was no way, bla bla this and that. Very familiar post. Yet a few months later we had several indications that proved there was some validity all along.

The gm204 was a huge success and not only did Nvidia quarterly reports show a surge, so did steam. These were the unusually popular and steam reflects that very clearly.

So hear we are now. You can say what you will but there will be real data that comes soon enough. It will either support this or bust it. I wonder how many people will retract their statements if it does prove true? I don't think any did the last time.
 

JimmiG

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"high" end

The 1080 is actually a mid range card, but since the high-end cards of the Pascal generation haven't launched yet (1080 Ti, Titan), and there's no competition, Nvidia is pushing it as a "high-end" card. That probably means they're comparing the volume to the Titan, Titan X etc. rather than the 980 or even 980 Ti.
 

NTMBK

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We've been stuck on 28nm for years now, I'm not surprised that pre-order demand was through the roof.

Supply is another matter.
 

Qwertilot

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The 1080 is actually a mid range card, but since the high-end cards of the Pascal generation haven't launched yet (1080 Ti, Titan), and there's no competition, Nvidia is pushing it as a "high-end" card. That probably means they're comparing the volume to the Titan, Titan X etc. rather than the 980 or even 980 Ti.

Nope, they're comparing to the 980. The 980 was NV's top card for around 6 months - and then more like 9 for the 980ti to arrive.

There's an almost identical timescale anticipated for the Titan/1080ti to appear on top of the 1080.

They're actually incredibly similar launches in a lot of ways.

The hike in the pricing seems to have maybe hurt 1070 sales a bit vs the 970, 1080's clearly not.
 
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