Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

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LTC8K6

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He said performance though. Not IPC. Whether it was obtained by arch. tweak and clock speeds or not. performance is performance and does not have to be an IPC increase.
No, he said IPC and then changed it to performance in response to Det0x. See where Det0x quoted the original post?
 

imaheadcase

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Nope. It has to be the same model. You can mix and match different manufacturers

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Wait a second, didn't something change with 1080 series that changed that though? I remember something about changes to how SLI worked that allowed something like that...
 

Bacon1

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Wait a second, didn't something change with 1080 series that changed that though? I remember something about changes to how SLI worked that allowed something like that...

DX12 has a mGPU mode that allows for mixed hardware... even AMD+Nvidia.

AMD has allowed mixed CFX for a long time... 5000 series or earlier? I know 6000 supported it.
 

imaheadcase

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DX12 has a mGPU mode that allows for mixed hardware... even AMD+Nvidia.

AMD has allowed mixed CFX for a long time... 5000 series or earlier? I know 6000 supported it.

I was thinking they put something in for the cards though, like updated SLI bridge or something that allowed mixing of cards. Like the 2nd card would handle certain parts of it while fastest card would still do the heavy work. Oh well, no big deal I will just sell my 1080 for $200 and get 1080 Ti.
 

OatisCampbell

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DX12 has a mGPU mode that allows for mixed hardware... even AMD+Nvidia.

AMD has allowed mixed CFX for a long time... 5000 series or earlier? I know 6000 supported it.
I've never been a fan of this for any brand.

I can't believe mixing cards where one is twice as fast as the other can have a good outcome for frame pacing.

NVIDIA tried to do something like this with motherboard GPU SLi'd with dedicated and the results weren't great.

Similarly I'd think if you had a 480 and a Fury X CF doing AFR either the Fury X would be doing more of the frames and balancing that would be a mess. Would love to see FCAT of such a rig.
 

Bacon1

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Similarly I'd think if you had a 480 and a Fury X CF doing AFR either the Fury X would be doing more of the frames and balancing that would be a mess. Would love to see FCAT of such a rig.

Thats why you don't use it for AFR, but split frame rendering.

Tom's did some frame testing back in the AOTS beta. Sadly I don't think anyone covered it past the initial support in beta.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/ashes...adapter-power-consumption,review-33476-4.html
 

OatisCampbell

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I'll buy the SFR but note the gains usually weren't nearly as high with that and it seems to me there were some other issues as well with IQ. (Which is why everything went AFR in the first place, the checkerboard and SFR had issues) Still think if you're going to SLI or CF identical GPUs makes the most sense.
 

96Firebird

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AMD's mixed Crossfire can't just use any cards, both cards have to be in the same GPU family. For example - 7970, 7950 and R9 280X can be Crossfired because they are all Tahiti GPUs. However, they cannot be Crossfired with R9 290X, because that is Hawaii.

So even if Nvidia had a similar feature, you wouldn't be able to SLI GP104 with GP102.
 

Bacon1

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I'll buy the SFR but note the gains usually weren't nearly as high with that and it seems to me there were some other issues as well with IQ. (Which is why everything went AFR in the first place, the checkerboard and SFR had issues) Still think if you're going to SLI or CF identical GPUs makes the most sense.

Sure but that was with older APIs that didn't support it very well at all.

http://techreport.com/blog/27258/civ-beyond-earth-with-mantle-aims-to-end-multi-gpu-microstuttering

SFR helps reduce input lag and sure FPS won't double, but the game will run much smoother.
 

Jagercola

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This will be my first launch day purchase. Do these things normally go on sale at midnight (est or pst?) or sometime during the day?
 

Jason Ives

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I'll buy the SFR but note the gains usually weren't nearly as high with that and it seems to me there were some other issues as well with IQ. (Which is why everything went AFR in the first place, the checkerboard and SFR had issues) Still think if you're going to SLI or CF identical GPUs makes the most sense.
I can see identical gpus being the "best balanced" and therefore the smoothest mgpu setup could be. I would always choose a faster single gpu over mgpu though.
 

happy medium

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Review Roundup:
from the Anandtech review

Quote:
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Taking a look at the numbers, as a mid-generation refresh of their high-end products, the GTX 1080 Ti delivers around 32% better performance than the GTX 1080 at 4K, and 28% better performance at 1440p. NVIDIA said they were going to get a 35% improvement over the GTX 1080 with the GTX 1080 Ti, and while our numbers don’t quite match that, they are close to the mark.

For GTX 980 Ti and GTX 780 Ti owners then, who are the most likely groups to be in the market for a $699 video card and looking to upgrade, the GTX 1080 Ti should prove a suitable card. Relative to the last-generation GTX 980 Ti, the GTX 1080 Ti offers 74% better performance at 4K and 68% better performance at 1440p"


From the Babletech review,I'm hearing that the new direct X 12 driver is seeing major gains with Doom and Hitman.

Quote.
"What did we actually see? Well, the most dramatic gain that we noted was in Vulkan DOOM where our GTX 1080 went from 77.6 average fps at 3440×1440 to 98.2 fps!'

The second most dramatic gain was 75.6 fps to 86.4 fps in Hitman at 3440×1440. We also noted good gains with Ashes of the Singularity and with The Division."



http://www.babeltechreviews.com/gtx-1080-ti-performance-review-vs-titan-xp-gtx-1080/view-all/
 
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antihelten

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Thats why you don't use it for AFR, but split frame rendering.

Tom's did some frame testing back in the AOTS beta. Sadly I don't think anyone covered it past the initial support in beta.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/ashes...adapter-power-consumption,review-33476-4.html

Ashes uses AFR not SFR though, so not really relevant here. I think the only notable DX12 game that actually uses SFR is Civ 6 (I haven't been able to find any decent tests though).

From the Babletech review,I'm hearing that the new direct X 12 driver is seeing major gains with Doom and Hitman.

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"What did we actually see? Well, the most dramatic gain that we noted was in Vulkan DOOM where our GTX 1080 went from 77.6 average fps at 3440×1440 to 98.2 fps!'

The second most dramatic gain was 75.6 fps to 86.4 fps in Hitman at 3440×1440. We also noted good gains with Ashes of the Singularity and with The Division."

Well, this is what Anandtech had to say about the new driver:

I’ve already seen some confusion here over whether the GTX 1080 Ti launch driver (378.78) is a special performance driver or not. For the record, it is not.



In their presentation, NVIDIA outlined their driver performance gains in DX12 since the launch of various DX12 games, including Ashes of the Singularity, Hitman, and Rise of the Tomb Raider. All of these games have seen performance improvements, but what’s critical here is that this is over the long-run, since the launch of the GTX 1080 and these respective games.

The 378.78 driver in that respect is nothing special. In terms of driver release, NVIDIA is already a few releases into the R378 branch, so any big code changes for this branch have already been released to the public in earlier driver builds.
 
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ddogg

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Nice collection of reviews there. Pretty much in line what we expected I guess. Now hoping my preorder ships tomorrow

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Sweepr

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So fastest card on the planet, 72% ahead of Fury X at stock (TPU). Can't wait for the AIB custom models.
 

Dribble

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What amazes me is the number of reviews stating what great value it is. Nvidia are very clever. They intentionally set the titan price far too high, perhaps not even selling as many chips as they can make, only to massively drop the price and everyone thinks it's a great deal. Reminds me of all those sofa stores that overprice all their sofa's for 1 month, so they can then sell them "40% off!!!" and everyone thinks it must be an amazing bargain.

As for the card, tbh they have nailed it. o/c headroom looks good with a better cooler. As I said above all the reviewers are saying it's cheaper then they thought it would be. They also keep saying how it's the first card that is fast enough to do 4k well. Timed the release when everyone is blowing money on new rizen builds. You know it's going to do well.

The drop in price of the regular 1080 was clever as well - makes that a very appealing card all of a sudden, and it gets mentioned in all the 1080Ti reviews as it's compared against it (due to nvidia saying 1080Ti is X percent faster). That will get a lot of people saying I'd love a 1080Ti, however I can't stretch to that but a 1080 looks pretty good, it's only X amount slower and now it's much cheaper, I'll get one of them.

None of this is "luck", someone in Nvidia marketing knows what they are doing.
 
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Sweepr

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Digital Foundry said:
Secondly, Nvidia has clearly put a bit of work into getting Ashes of the Singularity and Hitman DX12 performance up to snuff. Traditionally, AMD sped ahead on equivalent hardware (in this case, GTX 1070 vs R9 Fury X), but no longer. For its part, AMD's R9 Fury X also sees across the board improvement. The Fury's sub-par performance at lower resolutions has been improved in several cases, but it is still the weakest card tested here. Vega can't come soon enough.

Next stop: Volta.
 

monkeydelmagico

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Thermally limited on the founder edition. The aftermarket is going to have a field day with this card. Hope they don't run the price up too high.
 

antihelten

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What amazes me is the number of reviews stating what great value it is. Nvidia are very clever. They intentionally set the titan price far too high, perhaps not even selling as many chips as they can make, only to massively drop the price and everyone thinks it's a great deal. Reminds me of all those sofa stores that overprice all their sofa's for 1 month, so they can then sell them "40% off!!!" and everyone thinks it must be an amazing bargain.

Honestly I think the perception that the 1080 Ti is great value has more to do with the (previously) inflated price of the 1080 than it has to do with the Titan XP. i.e. before you would pay $700 for the 1080 FE, but now for the same price you can get a 1080 Ti, which is roughly 30% faster.
 
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