Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

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zinfamous

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8800 ultra was released 10 years ago at $699. Forget what the Titan X costs or anything else --- this is a good deal (for ultra high end) and don't tell me you didn't expect Nvidia to price this thing at $850+.

A 1080 for $500 is also super nice... but I know a few members are about to chime in with 10 paragraphs of research about how this is a bad deal based on previous gen performance differences and other factors they make up in their heads.

Yeah, I was certain this thing was going to be $850-900 or more. It only fit with the pricing scheme of 1080 on release, then Titan XP. ...but to be matching Titan performance and release at same price as 1080, this is pretty nuts. ....I still call it stupid expensive and would never pay that price for such a piece of metal, but I'm impressed, nevertheless.
 

Bacon1

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8800 ultra was released 10 years ago at $699. Forget what the Titan X costs or anything else --- this is a good deal (for ultra high end) and don't tell me you didn't expect Nvidia to price this thing at $850+.

And that would be compared to the $1200 Titan XP, a very over priced card for the performance.

This card is nothing new, not even the cooler is improved upon. Its just a way to reduce the MSRP of the Titan's without having to actually reduce their MSRP and "devalue" them. Its all marketing games and many people are getting caught up in it. Same reason they compared the 1070/1080 to the Titan X instead of the 980 Ti. By pricing products against ridiculously high ones they make them seem like better value.

Those who bought Titan XP @ 1200 7 months ago got thier money's worth.

1200 - 700 = $500 difference. $500 / 7 = $71 per month. Do you think the 1080 Ti will keep the performance crown for another 10+ months, or do you expect a x80 refresh to come out before then? If not, that would be 20+ months without a refresh.
 

moonbogg

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8800 ultra was released 10 years ago at $699. Forget what the Titan X costs or anything else --- this is a good deal (for ultra high end) and don't tell me you didn't expect Nvidia to price this thing at $850+.

A 1080 for $500 is also super nice... but I know a few members are about to chime in with 10 paragraphs of research about how this is a bad deal based on previous gen performance differences and other factors they make up in their heads.

I was expecting it to cost $7-800. It couldn't have been more than that because that price bracket was already nailed with the TitanX. Anyone willing to spend $900 would likely end up just spending $1200 to get the Titan IMO. I was hoping (dreaming really) for another $650 price for this Ti part, but I will live with $700 since they increased the price of the Titan by $200, the X80 by what, $150-200? But they only increased the Ti by $50. Considering there is absolutely no other option on the market except for a different Nvidia card, I won't cry about the price anymore than I already have. I'll be quite happy with the 1080ti. Not to mention, after selling all my old stuff, that 1080ti will cost me just about $0.00. I'm quite excited at the moment. Please excuse me while I excuse myself.
 
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piesquared

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It looks like not many people are buying into the continued price gouging. I imagine it is because most people willing to spend $700 for a graphics card are willing to spend more and already have the Titan X. This performance is a year old already, so at $700 i don't think it is a very compelling offer.
 

tential

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What amazes me is the number of reviews stating what great value it is. Nvidia are very clever. They intentionally set the titan price far too high, perhaps not even selling as many chips as they can make, only to massively drop the price and everyone thinks it's a great deal. Reminds me of all those sofa stores that overprice all their sofa's for 1 month, so they can then sell them "40% off!!!" and everyone thinks it must be an amazing bargain.

As for the card, tbh they have nailed it. o/c headroom looks good with a better cooler. As I said above all the reviewers are saying it's cheaper then they thought it would be. They also keep saying how it's the first card that is fast enough to do 4k well. Timed the release when everyone is blowing money on new rizen builds. You know it's going to do well.

The drop in price of the regular 1080 was clever as well - makes that a very appealing card all of a sudden, and it gets mentioned in all the 1080Ti reviews as it's compared against it (due to nvidia saying 1080Ti is X percent faster). That will get a lot of people saying I'd love a 1080Ti, however I can't stretch to that but a 1080 looks pretty good, it's only X amount slower and now it's much cheaper, I'll get one of them.

None of this is "luck", someone in Nvidia marketing knows what they are doing.

Why are you blaming Nvidia? AMD didn't have to match Nvidia with the $650 price tag of the GTX 980Ti. Especially when they clearly had an inferior product. Instead, they did. So a +$50 price hike on top of that? I don't think that's surprising coming from Nvidia. It's again, if AMD doesn't give good value, then of course the Nvidia product looks great. The GTX 980Ti didn't feel great to me personally, until I saw Fury X. Then I was very happy with what the GTX 980Ti brought to the table.

Everything to me is relative and right now, the 1080Ti is cheaper than we expected coming from a company like Nvidia, and it's still an AMAZING card.

If AMD has a compelling alternative in Vega, I'd love to see it. But if it comes in at Fury X levels of comparison, then that means it won't do 4K, and I'll be a very unhappy camper.
I don't know why you'd blame the Titan either. The pricing of the 1080Ti is inline with the rest of the product lineup. It's not abnormal even without talking about the Titan, although yes, it's a good marketing strategy for sure.
 

tential

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It looks like not many people are buying into the continued price gouging. I imagine it is because most people willing to spend $700 for a graphics card are willing to spend more and already have the Titan X. This performance is a year old already, so at $700 i don't think it is a very compelling offer.
It's sold out what are you talking about?

I was expecting it to cost $7-800. It couldn't have been more than that because that price bracket was already nailed with the TitanX. Anyone willing to spend $900 would likely end up just spending $1200 to get the Titan IMO. I was hoping (dreaming really) for another $650 price for this Ti part, but I will live with $700 since they increased the price of the Titan by $200, the X80 by what, $150-200? But they only increased the Ti by $50. Considering there is absolutely no other option on the market except for a different Nvidia card, I won't cry about the price anymore than I already have. I'll be quite happy with the 1080ti. Not to mention, after selling all my old stuff, that 1080ti will cost me just about $0.00. I'm quite excited at the moment. Please excuse me while I excuse myself.

I just can't wait to wait 2-3 months only to see Vega not be what I want it to be.
 

casiofx

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Yeah the 1080ti is a beast but we all expected it to be. What impressed me was how the Fury was holding up pretty well in many of the bench marks.
Meh fury rarely impressed me, the performance along all games are not consistent; some performed great, some gave you "WTF is this"

Polaris cards, now that's what I call consistent.
 

ddogg

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I'm not sure what's the point in complaining when it's not going to make a difference. At the end of the day, it's a premium product targeted at a niche market. People who have purchased the TI want the absolute best and don't mind paying the dough for it. You are never going to see 1080Ti performance at a sub $500 level, you need to pay to play so to speak. If AMD offers a compelling product in Vega, we may see some price drops.

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KentState

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It looks like not many people are buying into the continued price gouging. I imagine it is because most people willing to spend $700 for a graphics card are willing to spend more and already have the Titan X. This performance is a year old already, so at $700 i don't think it is a very compelling offer.

Sold out and the custom cards haven't launched yet.

And who determines price gouging? $700 seems like a bargain for something that lets you enjoy your hobby.
 

piesquared

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Sold out and the custom cards haven't launched yet.

And who determines price gouging? $700 seems like a bargain for something that lets you enjoy your hobby.

'Sold out' doesn't mean much. All it means is limited stock, judging by the lack of enthusiasm in enthusiast forums.Of course $700 "seems" like a bargain, but that's what the $1200 price gouging Titan X was all about- make $700 "seem" like a bargain. At any rate, i'm sure they'll sell enough to justify implementing the $700/$1200 scheme the next time. No biggy, each to there own.
 

Thinker_145

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lol at all the people waiting for Vega. The 1080Ti is an incredible win.

Seems obvious to me x70 and x80Ti are the best upgrade cycles to follow. You know what's most amazing about the Ti? It actually doesn't have horrible price/performance despite being the fastest card in the world. That really is quite something. Something you don't even come close to with x80 and Titan cards.
 
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railven

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So doing some research, I've pretty much decided to go this route.



Since Custom cards will be a few days/weeks/months off, just going to get my hands on the first Ref I can. I'll be moving my GTX 1080 Hybrid FTW to the wife's rig, and will just remove the EVGA hybrid kit the 980 Ti has installed following some directions posted online.

Since it seems the Ref 1080 Ti is mostly identical where it matters to the Titan Xp, this would be an easy day1 CLC upgrade over the stock cooler.

Now just to get my dirty hands on a ref model ASAP.
 

ddogg

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I just found out my microcenter will be receiving some stock tomorrow morning. According to some folks at overclock.net, the preorders have started shipping. If I don't receive a shipping notification by tomorrow I'm going to be at my microcenter to pick one up. This wait is killing me

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railven

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I just found out my microcenter will be receiving some stock tomorrow morning. According to some folks at overclock.net, the preorders have started shipping. If I don't receive a shipping notification by tomorrow I'm going to be at my microcenter to pick one up. This wait is killing me

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My Microcenter insider said they have nothing expected Though I think this is due to what happened with 1080 launch. Employee snagged 2 cards day before launch. I'll be checking them either way since I start mid shift and will be in the area around opening time. Hopefully it isn't like 1080 launch and they give vouchers to people who were there before opening. Since I'm no longer morning shift no way in hell I'll be there 5AM. haha.
 

moonbogg

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I thought Nvidia site said they were starting sales tomorrow morning at 10am. Preorders are sold out, but the official sale starts tomorrow morning.
 

Thinker_145

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All it is is a price reduction on the Titan XP + slight gimp to memory 7 months later. This isn't any new tech.









The 1080 has better price/perf all over

90% of GPU releases are just price cuts if you look at it like that.

Who said anything about price performance now? Compare it to when the 1080 was the best card in the world.
 

Capt Caveman

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Spoke to a guy at the Microcenter in Cambridge and he said they had a couple of 1080Ti's for Friday. And AIBs won't be available for a while.
 

antihelten

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All it is is a price reduction on the Titan XP + slight gimp to memory 7 months later. This isn't any new tech.







The 1080 has better price/perf all over

To be fair those charts use the new $500 price point for the 1080 and not the old $600/700 price point. So while the 1080 at $500 represents better value than the 1080 Ti here and now, the 1080 Ti is still better perf/$ than what was available at the high end before it launched.
 
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I was expecting it to cost $7-800. It couldn't have been more than that because that price bracket was already nailed with the TitanX. Anyone willing to spend $900 would likely end up just spending $1200 to get the Titan IMO. I was hoping (dreaming really) for another $650 price for this Ti part, but I will live with $700 since they increased the price of the Titan by $200, the X80 by what, $150-200? But they only increased the Ti by $50. Considering there is absolutely no other option on the market except for a different Nvidia card, I won't cry about the price anymore than I already have. I'll be quite happy with the 1080ti. Not to mention, after selling all my old stuff, that 1080ti will cost me just about $0.00. I'm quite excited at the moment. Please excuse me while I excuse myself.

Yeah, I really like the price on this card. I'll still tell myself that I got my Titan X earlier than 1080 Ti buyers will get their cards, but...I'm still kinda jelly.
 

guachi

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If I'm remember correctly, the 1080 was $600. The 1080ti is $700. So that's about 30% more performance for 16.7% more money.

That works out to a performance/dollar increase of about 11.5% since the 1080 was released. That seems a bit lackluster. Though I suppose if you want to game at 4k and heretofore didn't have a great card the 1080Ti is a better deal than if you had purchased a 1080 a month ago.

On the other hand, we don't have 4k monitors that do more than 60 Hz and GSync 4k monitors are $300 more than a 4k Freesync monitor. On the other, other hand, AMD has nothing that can game at 4k well.

Basically, high-end gaming sucks until and unless AMD releases a competitive Vega.
 

ddogg

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I thought Nvidia site said they were starting sales tomorrow morning at 10am. Preorders are sold out, but the official sale starts tomorrow morning.
Looks to be the case but I think it was early in the morning. Alot of people at overclock seemed to have grabbed the 2nd round of orders from Nvidia in the morning.

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KentState

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'Sold out' doesn't mean much. All it means is limited stock, judging by the lack of enthusiasm in enthusiast forums.Of course $700 "seems" like a bargain, but that's what the $1200 price gouging Titan X was all about- make $700 "seem" like a bargain. At any rate, i'm sure they'll sell enough to justify implementing the $700/$1200 scheme the next time. No biggy, each to there own.

So how much should it be? $700-800 for a computer part that last a year or so is nothing for a hobby. I invite AMD to offer similar performance for the same price.
 

piesquared

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So how much should it be? $700-800 for a computer part that last a year or so is nothing for a hobby. I invite AMD to offer similar performance for the same price.

And i invite NV to offer similar performance for the same price. Has that ever happened? AFAIK, AMD has always offered much better perf/$.
 
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