Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

[HannooFX]

Not bad. Was expecting 3328 CCs, 10Ghz G5X and $799-849 price. $699 price and performance more or less on par with the TXP is a nice surprise. 1080 getting a price drop to $499 and getting free performance boost from 11Ghz G5X is a smart move by NV. NV just put Vega in no man's land. If Vega costs $599-649 and it's not as fast as the 1080Ti, almost no one will buy it. 11GB of memory vs. 8GB is a nice marketing win for 4K/5K gaming even if real world performance won't benefit the 11GB card. Consumers like seeing more VRAM in the high-end segments.

If Vega is barely 5-8% faster than 1080 and costs $499-549, 1080 will easily outsell it based on NV brand/loyalty and reputation. Both of these moves show NV isn't scared at all wrt to Vega. AMD had nothing amazing to show for Vega presentation other than HBCC boost in Sniper Elite 4 and Bethesda partnership. If AMD had something spectacular, they would have showed demos head-to-head against TXP or 1080; much like they positioned 6700K/7700K/6800K/6900K against Ryzen. I smell AMD's R&D and resources were stretched way too thin and the GPU division suffered for it.

On NV's last conference call, JHH stated that only roughly 25% of their entire customer base upgraded to Pascal in 2016; and that it takes 4 years on average before the GeForce install base migrates away from their older card(s) fully to the next generation. That means ~75% of NV users are potential customers for Pascal in 2017. Reducing the price of 1080 to $499 and releasing 1080Ti at $699 so far out from Vega means NV is poised to clawback even more market share and get guaranteed easy sales until prob. late May.

Interesting how MSRP for the FE seems the same as AIB. I hope this is true as the FE premium was BS.

The $699 1080Ti only shows how much of a rip-off 1080 was at $599/$699. This is pretty tempting for me to just dump my 1070s and pay a bit out of pocket for a 1080Ti. Well played NV getting a 2-3 months head start on Vega. If only modern PC gaming was more exciting....

Looking forward to 2070/2080 Volta in 2018. Kinda bored with this entire generation of videocards. The cards keep getting faster but games aren't doing next gen leaps at the same pace, hence why NV is pushing 4K/5K advertising in their slides.

Overall, I am pretty happy with this card. $1200 TXP performance for $700 just 7 months later. Love the price/performance technology curve.

Well said.

 

[Chaotic42]

Ryan Smith says on the front page article:

Thanks, I didn't see it over there in the Pipeline. I guess I should look over there more often. Looks like I'm waiting for DP 1.5: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#Resolution_and_refresh_frequency_limits_for_DisplayPort

 

[Head1985]

Overall, I am pretty happy with this card. $1200 TXP performance for $700 just 7 months later. Love the price/performance technology curve.

Problem is it looks good only vs overpriced cards like GTX1080 and TITAN.You fell into nv old marketing trick.They using crazy overpriced TITAN for other cards look better.
TITAN should cost 400usd at beginning(its just GTX570)

But yeah nv have monopoly.Bad times.

 

[alcoholbob]

I might be in the market for a used 1080 at $425-450 now! Hahaha.

1080s were $400-450 during black friday last year so the new msrp is decent but not ground shattering. It does leave an interesting space for AMD though.

 

[stormkroe]

Problem is it looks good only vs overpriced cards like GTX1080 and TITAN.You fell into nv old marketing trick.They using crazy overpriced TITAN for other cards look better.
TITAN should cost 400usd at beginning(its just GTX570)

But yeah nv have monopoly.Bad times.

Titan has always been a status card and really expensive, but if you think it should be $400 then what price points would you suggest for x80ti, x80, x70, x60, and how did you come up with those figures? I'd love a $29.99 1060ti, but I'd like nV and amd to be able to pay their electricity bills...

 

[Madpacket]

Hmm. This 1080Ti looks attractive. CAD pricing will likely be closer to 1K and I'm a big fan of blower coolers as I usually stick to cramped ITX builds. This new reference design cooler looks like a good improvement over the 1080 FE. If it can boost and hold at 2000Mhz without sounding like a reference 290X I'll be happy.

How much faster than my Gigabyte 1070 will this card be approximately? I'm aiming for a solid ~+-90 FPS at 4K with a mix of high and ultra settings (eyeing that new Asus 144Hz 4K FALD display).

 

[alcoholbob]

Some people don't know how to do math, or misunderstood the reference starting point for the OC. 1080 TI will obviously not hit higher clocks than existing Pascal chips.

Although the same core count as the Titan X means when overclocked they will be the same speed.

This wasnt the case last gen, when both Titan X Maxwell and 980 Ti hit their clockspeed wall around 1500mhz, the Titan X ended up about 8-9% faster due to more cores.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Hope there will be versions with DVI-D. If yes, I'll be getting one.

 

[Madpacket]

Although the same core count as the Titan X means when overclocked they will be the same speed.

This wasnt the case last gen, when both Titan X Maxwell and 980 Ti hit their clockspeed wall around 1500mhz, the Titan X ended up about 8-9% faster due to more cores.

Hmm, now I'm wondering how fast this 1080Ti card will mine with the extra cores and RAM speeds.

 

[SlickR12345]

We didn't get any sort of specs or performance indication from the Vega event and the cards are still 3-4 months away. I think it will be very competitive, in fact it might even beat the 1080TI, since AMD is taking their sweet time with it, so it better be competitive, otherwise AMD is done for.

But yeah, Nvidia have one upped them once again, this is super fast card and being released very soon. I think AMD must show numbers and specs in late March if they want people to stay interested in Vega. They have to show the card beating the 1080TI or at least being competitive. They also have to compete in DX11, they can't just rely on DX12, when very few titles use it.

 

[Madpacket]

Hope there will be versions with D-DVI. If yes, I'll be getting one.

I bet there will be aftermarket cards with DVI-D. It's nice they removed it on the reference card to accommodate for better blower fan design.

 

[tamz_msc]

I wonder if the 1080Ti would have been priced at 699$ if it had been released according to NVIDIA's initial plan at CES in January.

 

[Madpacket]

We didn't get any sort of specs or performance indication from the Vega event and the cards are still 3-4 months away. I think it will be very competitive, in fact it might even beat the 1080TI, since AMD is taking their sweet time with it, so it better be competitive, otherwise AMD is done for.

But yeah, Nvidia have one upped them once again, this is super fast card and being released very soon. I think AMD must show numbers and specs in late March if they want people to stay interested in Vega. They have to show the card beating the 1080TI or at least being competitive. They also have to compete in DX11, they can't just rely on DX12, when very few titles use it.

IMHO it's too late for Vega. They blew it today by not releasing performance (or perhaps they caught wind of the 1080Ti price launch and that scared them off announcing it). Either way people will be buying up 1700/1800X Ryzen chips and pairing them up to the 1080Ti to have the fastest rigs. This audience won't wait for Vega.

 

[amenx]

Problem is it looks good only vs overpriced cards like GTX1080 and TITAN.You fell into nv old marketing trick.They using crazy overpriced TITAN for other cards look better.
TITAN should cost 400usd at beginning(its just GTX570)

But yeah nv have monopoly.Bad times.

What did you pay for the 1070? I think you bought it early after release, so $450? A card you relentlessly and harshly criticized before and after release (yet bought it) and compared to the 570. And now the 1080ti is a 570?

 

[tamz_msc]

IMHO it's too late for Vega. They blew it today by not releasing performance (or perhaps they caught wind of the 1080Ti price launch and that scared them off announcing it). Either way people will be buying up 1700/1800X Ryzen chips and pairing them up to the 1080Ti to have the fastest rigs. This audience won't wait for Vega.

Only if you think AMD releases products that are always aimed at every NVIDIA card in every price bracket.

 

[faseman]

Well well, the guy who claims he doesn't have time to spend on tech forums all day has just so happened to return when there's something he can post about nvidia. After just so happening to abandon the Ryzen thread when positive information was coming out. Funny, that.

Even sadder & creepier he and a few of the other obviously biased posters go to multiple forums and "like" each others posts and sick burnz. What a sad life you guys lead.





Threadcrapping. You know better than to post this.


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[ddogg]

Problem is it looks good only vs overpriced cards like GTX1080 and TITAN.You fell into nv old marketing trick.They using crazy overpriced TITAN for other cards look better.
TITAN should cost 400usd at beginning(its just GTX570)

But yeah nv have monopoly.Bad times.

I think the Titan at $400 is a tad low. At those prices their margins would probably be too low to make any sort of profit. In a perfect world, I think it should have released at 699 from the start, $600 for the x80Ti and $500 for the 1080.

 

[Jaydip]

Day one purchase for me, feelsgoodman

 

[Mopetar]

Looks really good and I expect to see a lot of used 1080's showing up on ebay soon. It might not be a bad idea to see what third party cooling solutions offer either.

For everyone complaining about price, it's just like with Intel's HEDT prior to Ryzen. If Vega isn't around or isn't competitive, NVidia has no incentive to drop prices. You don't go into work and offer to take a pay cut out of the goodness of your heart, so why you expect NV to act differently is beyond me.

This does line up really nicely with Ryzen launch though for people contemplating building a new rig. When's the last time anyone had an AMD CPU and an NVidia GPU?

 

[Head1985]

Titan has always been a status card and really expensive, but if you think it should be $400 then what price points would you suggest for x80ti, x80, x70, x60, and how did you come up with those figures? I'd love a $29.99 1060ti, but I'd like nV and amd to be able to pay their electricity bills...

Look at fermi
GTX580-500usd flagship fastest single GPU on market
GTX570-cutdown gtx580 350usd
GTX560TI(current GTX1080)-250usd
GTX560(current gtx1070)-200usd

 

[railven]

Day one purchase for me, feelsgoodman

Well damn, I just over crying in the other thread saying "if it's $700 I'd think about, but it won't be $700."

There is a crow logged in my throat as I type this.

Sold! Day 1. Not waiting for AIB's like I did for my GTX 1080. Just buying it like I did when I snapped and scooped up the GTX 980 Ti. (Just did 16hrs of overtime so it's already paid for! )

 

[tviceman]

Well damn, I just over crying in the other thread saying "if it's $700 I'd think about, but it won't be $700."

There is a crow logged in my throat as I type this.

Sold! Day 1. Not waiting for AIB's like I did for my GTX 1080. Just buying it like I did when I snapped and scooped up the GTX 980 Ti. (Just did 16hrs of overtime so it's already paid for! )

Sounds like the new cooler will be much improved over Titan XP's. You should be happy with your purchase.

 

[ddogg]

Day one purchase for me, feelsgoodman

Day 1 purchase for me as well and sticking to a single GPU this time around. Hopefully, EK releases a waterblock for the reference boards soon so I can add it to my custom loop.

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[JDG1980]

IMHO it's too late for Vega. They blew it today by not releasing performance (or perhaps they caught wind of the 1080Ti price launch and that scared them off announcing it). Either way people will be buying up 1700/1800X Ryzen chips and pairing them up to the 1080Ti to have the fastest rigs. This audience won't wait for Vega.

It's not too late for Vega, but the bar has been raised. If the top Vega SKU decisively beats the best Pascal card (and it should be able to, based purely on the numbers) then there will be a ready audience from those enthusiasts who must have the best regardless of price. And GPU sales don't happen all at once - Q1 is actually a pretty slow time of year, the Christmas season is much more important.

 

[railven]

Sounds like the new cooler will be much improved over Titan XP's. You should be happy with your purchase.

Well I waited for EVGA's Hybrid 1080 which came out like 3-4 months after initial launch, only for it to not offer any better OC'ing.

So I'm just snagging first 1080 ti I can, if cooler is good enough fine, otherwise will slap an CLC once I can haha.

Here is hoping Microcenter gets them locally, screw shipping time/fees!