Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

[Bacon1]

But people like Bacon1 even after these performance figures were shown were indicating better than gtx 980 ti

Source? I wasn't expecting a $200 card to out perform a 980 Ti. They had said from the beginning they wanted to target the low end and "bring VR to the masses" with an entry level VR capable card... that meant 290+ performance.

Bacon1 is indicating Vega will perform. i.e something like 10+% better than a gtx 1080 ti.

Once again, I never said that Vega would be 10% faster than a 1080 Ti.

Please stop horribly misquoting me and saying that I said things I never have.

 

[tential]

Speak for yourself when you say most of the forum buddy. And at this point, saying most of this forum says something doesn't mean much. If most of this forum is saying something it's probably wrong...

 

[Aristotelian]

Just to chime in that the 1080ti is a pleasure to see at that price point. I know we live in rumor mill guys but for the experienced posters and market followers here: how long is the ti normally king of the hill? I keep reading online that Volta is meant to come out this year and buying a 1080ti this year vs a volta titan later this year? Is that a possible choice to make with 2017 being an arbitrary timeline?

I'm reviving my new beast build (watercooled) and I'll be buying the 4k HDR Asus monitor later this year (assuming it isn't a dog), would like one video card to power it, perhaps two if I see any change in the SLI trend (which looks rather abysmal at the moment).

 

[MongGrel]

Just to chime in that the 1080ti is a pleasure to see at that price point. I know we live in rumor mill guys but for the experienced posters and market followers here: how long is the ti normally king of the hill? I keep reading online that Volta is meant to come out this year and buying a 1080ti this year vs a volta titan later this year? Is that a possible choice to make with 2017 being an arbitrary timeline?

I'm reviving my new beast build (watercooled) and I'll be buying the 4k HDR Asus monitor later this year (assuming it isn't a dog), would like one video card to power it, perhaps two if I see any change in the SLI trend (which looks rather abysmal at the moment).

Personally, I've always been skeptical of a lot of things and held off buying my first SSD's for awhile till they seemed practical to use.

SLI/Crossfire I have no faith in myself for decades now really.

 

[Aristotelian]

https://videocardz.com/67004/first-overclocked-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-3dmark-benchmarks-leaked

The first benchmarks have been leaked (that I can see). So it seems to match the Titan Pascal's graphics score (though the Titan was not overclocked?) for a much lower price. A win?

 

[Anubis]

when does this thing go on sale again? its this week isn't it, im not seeing preorders anywhere

 

[ddogg]

when does this thing go on sale again? its this week isn't it, im not seeing preorders anywhere

Preorders were on 3/2. 10th is when it actually goes on sale

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[crisium]

Just to chime in that the 1080ti is a pleasure to see at that price point. I know we live in rumor mill guys but for the experienced posters and market followers here: how long is the ti normally king of the hill?

In the only 2 previous instances of this cycle, you had 10-11 months of the Ti as king before the next gen x80 (non-Ti) launched. In addition to being faster, because it is a new architecture, you get lower power consumption and a richer feature set, as well as more VRAM. The $700 1080 FE showed us that the x80 might not be cheaper, but I think you can expect a similar timed scenario.

I keep reading online that Volta is meant to come out this year and buying a 1080ti this year vs a volta titan later this year? Is that a possible choice to make with 2017 being an arbitrary timeline?

If Nvidia has a similar cycle to the previous 3 generations, there will be no Volta Titan this year. But remember, 1080 Ti will be dethroned by the 2080 first. That's the heir apparent to the GPU performance crown, and you can expect one in ~10-11 months based on history.

 

[tviceman]

If Nvidia has a similar cycle to the previous 3 generations, there will be no Volta Titan this year. But remember, 1080 Ti will be dethroned by the 2080 first. That's the heir apparent to the GPU performance crown, and you can expect one in ~10-11 months based on history.

Nvidia's GeForce release cadence has become very predictable since Kepler. Release the x80 part with 25-35% faster than previous best. Approximately 1 year later, release big die with 25-35% faster performance. Approximately 1 year later, release x80 part with 25-35%.....

 

[crisium]

It's actually impressive they can be this consistent now. It doesn't look like the predictability is hurting sales though. If anything, many people like it.

Of course, I can complain about how we used to get x100 and x104 at the same time and for much less money. But I can't blame them for it given that the competition stayed home. It would simply not have been possible to do this with Fermi.

I hope they keep it up and we don't get dreaded Intel 5% performance improvements. It's been in the neighborhood of 30% a year for a while with NVDA GPUs.

edit: Corrected, thanks detox.

 

[Det0x]

It's actually impressive they can be this consistent now. It doesn't look like the predictability is hurting sales though. If anything, many people like it.

Of course, I can complain about how we used to get x100 and x104 at the same time and for much less money. But I can't blame them for it given that the competition stayed home. It would simply not have been possible to do this with Fermi.

I hope they keep it up and we don't get dreaded Intel 5% IPC improvements. It's been in the neighborhood of 30% a year for a while.

While i understand what you are trying to say, we had pretty much 0% increase in IPC going from Maxwell to Pascal.

 

[LTC8K6]

But we really don't care how NV got the 25-30% more performance, as long as they got there.

That would be true for AMD or Intel as well.

 

[KentState]

Look back at my previous orders, my EVGA 580 SC cost $513, EVGA 780 Ti SC $763 and now this card is probably $750ish for a EVGA SC equivalent. I doubt the pricing is based on competition or a shrinking market. Can we expect a $400 - 700 price range for the top three gaming cards for a few more generations or was this to maintain loyalty going into a potentially more competitive market?

 

[tviceman]

While i understand what you are trying to say, we had pretty much 0% increase in IPC going from Maxwell to Pascal.

That metric is only interesting from a technical perspective & discussion. I like to talk about die sizes and transistor counts but I realize those metrics matter very little (or, at most, matter indirectly) to consumers. If the end result is faster performance and more efficient operation, that is all that ultimately matters. If Nvidia finds ways to keep cranking up the clocks as opposed to increasing IPC and simultaneously still increase efficiency like they have been, it ultimately matters not.

 

[tviceman]

Look back at my previous orders, my EVGA 580 SC cost $513, EVGA 780 Ti SC $763 and now this card is probably $750ish for a EVGA SC equivalent. I doubt the pricing is based on competition or a shrinking market. Can we expect a $400 - 700 price range for the top three gaming cards for a few more generations or was this to maintain loyalty going into a potentially more competitive market?

Are these prices your quoting what you paid at (or very close to) launch?

I do think Nvidia dropped prices and went with a "friendly" $700 price tag because they know AMD is going to price Vega as aggressively as they can. AMD will have some moment with the Ryzen launch and new high-tech whiz bang features that may or may not matter to to end consumers. AMD has done a better job as of late with garnering support and communicating with consumers, and given that their market share was at an all-time low prior to Polaris, there is way more potential to steal market share back than to lose it.

 

[Bouowmx]

I think as long as the manufacturing process improves, the current rate of GPU performance increases can steadily continue: more cores, higher frequency, and the parallel nature of GPU work-loads.

 

[imaheadcase]

I forget, can i use my "old" 1080 and 1080 TI together in SLI? Should i?

 

[ddogg]

I forget, can i use my "old" 1080 and 1080 TI together in SLI? Should i?

Nope. It has to be the same model. You can mix and match different manufacturers

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[Bouowmx]

Can Nvidia SLI be used with differing but similar GPUs, ex. GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, Quadro P6000, and TITAN X Pascal? I'd wager no.

 

[Majcric]

Just cancelled my Titan X order. Now to decide if I want a reference 1080ti or wait for a nice aftermarket card.

 

[JoeRambo]

Just cancelled my Titan X order. Now to decide if I want a reference 1080ti or wait for a nice aftermarket card.

Yeah, i am pondering same question. Whether to wait for customs, or jump on reference. And it is not only about max sustained OC, but also about heat being dumped in the case. Blower design esp if it is decent has huge inherent advantage in mATX or cases with not superb airflow.
So i am waiting for reviews about noise levels and temps. In fact this round i don't really care about max OC diff, since Pascal's clock is so high already, that there is only tiny gain from extra 50-100Mhz - 2.5-5% is nothing to write home about.

But no compromises with noise, custom 980 ti @ 1400+mhz has spoiled me.

 

[tviceman]

Can Nvidia SLI be used with differing but similar GPUs, ex. GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, Quadro P6000, and TITAN X Pascal? I'd wager no.

No it has to be the same model GPU.

 

[KentState]

Are these prices your quoting what you paid at (or very close to) launch?

I do think Nvidia dropped prices and went with a "friendly" $700 price tag because they know AMD is going to price Vega as aggressively as they can. AMD will have some moment with the Ryzen launch and new high-tech whiz bang features that may or may not matter to to end consumers. AMD has done a better job as of late with garnering support and communicating with consumers, and given that their market share was at an all-time low prior to Polaris, there is way more potential to steal market share back than to lose it.

All are about a month after the custom versions launched.

 

[Vesku]

Nvidia pricing at the high end is actually tolerable for 2017 with the 1080 and 1070 price drops. Given the costs of the current nodes the 1080 TI pricing is a bit of a surprise pointing to Nvidia expecting AMD Vega to be at least some competition.

 

[Jason Ives]

While i understand what you are trying to say, we had pretty much 0% increase in IPC going from Maxwell to Pascal.

He said performance though. Not IPC. Whether it was obtained by arch. tweak and clock speeds or not. performance is performance and does not have to be an IPC increase.