Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

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Head1985

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Yup, this x80 -> Titan -> x80Ti song and dance is getting old.
Yes and year or year and half later x70 card with same performance as x80TI.NV is predictable since they have monopoly.
This time it will be very hard because GTX1070 was very cutdown offering only 55% faster performance than GTX970 and 1080TI is around 70% faster than GTX1070.I am not sure how they can manage that.Volta x70 need to offer far more performance gain than pascal GTX1070 bring.
 

Jason Ives

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Computerbase found like the 1080/1070 and similar FEs, it throttles heavily after playing for any extended period of time. Wait for better coolers.

Did any site test vs OC'd Titan X?

Ooof...Cringe... Out of all those reviews, you zeroed in on that one.

I like that even though the 1080Ti is slightly gimped in the ROP/bandwidth/mem department, they kept the core count the same and upped the clocks. Pretty smart way to differentiate their product and price structure kept in place. Nvidia does really have pretty smart marketing. Products are OK too. LOL.
 

Bacon1

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Ooof.... Out of all those reviews, you zeroed in on that one.

They have the best example of the throttling that I've seen. Do you have some others? PCGH said that they throttled as well but don't have it in as nice a chart. PCGH even replaced the cooler to do their OC tests. Most sites just do a 5 minute bench run which won't show the effects of throttling and will show it boosting to full. What gamers play in 5 minute bursts?

The remaining variable is the clock rate, which depends on the above conditions. In the game business we saw typical values between 1.550 and 1.709 MHz in our test copy of the GTX 1080 Ti after the heating-up phase.

Improved cooling automatically results in higher performance for the reasons mentioned. For example, if you run your GTX 1080 Ti at 80% torque (3,840 rpm -> 8.3 sone loudness), you can press the core temperature below 80 ° C even at 120% = 300 Watt and then get boosts between 1,700 and 1.800 MHz, which increases the performance of the GTX 1080 Ti by at most ten percent. 2 GHz and more are only realistic with hurricane loudspeakers - or by changing the cooler to water or, for example, an Arctic Accelero Xtreme IV, Raijintek Morpheus 2 & Co. As you read these lines, we build our sample of the GTX 1080 Ti on potente Air cooling ..

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Gefor...kkarte-265855/Specials/Test-Review-1222421/3/
 

crisium

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Ignore the troll. Who doesn't expect computerbase to produce useful data?

Aftermarket cards will be the way to go again, as they are in most situations.
 

kami

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The way nvidia was talking you'd think there was going to be some improvement on the reference cooler, but I guess not. Too bad. It would be nice to have a blower style cooler that can perform decently without sounding like a hair dryer.

Since I game at 4k I definitely want one though. Any idea how much of a delay there will be on custom cards? Also I guess the FE isn't launching today? Don't see it on any stores.
 

Bacon1

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Also I guess the FE isn't launching today? Don't see it on any stores.

Didn't Nvidia only sell the 1060 FE at their online store and not retailers? Wonder if it will be the same with 1080 Ti FE?
 

Bouowmx

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Didn't Nvidia only sell the 1060 FE at their online store and not retailers? Wonder if it will be the same with 1080 Ti FE?

There will be partner branded Founders Edition (see custom models): https://videocardz.net/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti/

Also I guess the FE isn't launching today? Don't see it on any stores.

Nvidia 1080 Ti will become ready to sell on 2017-03-10 10:00 UTC-8: http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/n...y-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-fastest-gaming-gpu-ever

Testing with Nvidia 1080 Ti and ARCTIC Accelero Hybrid III-140 liquid cooler: https://videocardz.com/67215/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-tested-with-arctic-accelero-hybrid-iii-140
 

Bacon1

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Ooof...Cringe... Out of all those reviews, you zeroed in on that one.

So along with Computerbase and PCGH, GN also found it was throttling hard:



For now, we can see GPU temperatures in the 84-85C range, with the MOSFETs number 7 and 2 closely packed around 65-68C. This is heavily competitive to AIB partner FET temperatures, but the card is also only under stock clock loads. The GPU temperature, of course, looks dismal when compared to AIB partners. The card requires a significantly higher fan speed in order to sustain a comparable GPU temperature to AIB models, which then sacrifices noise output in a substantial way. To this end, despite using high quality materials, the cooler is not all that great for our audience. It’s a better fit for system integrators or specific needs users, but for most folks, we’re still recommending axial or liquid coolers. This begins choking the clock in a way which is unnecessary, and means the FE cooler doesn’t allow the card to get the most out of the components. That’s where AIB vendors come in, of course.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2830-nvidia-gtx-1080-ti-fe-review-and-game-benchmarks/page-3

So once again, those "Premium" FE coolers are junk and heavily limiting a very expensive GPU. Wait for custom models unless you plan on spending another $100 on cooling.
 

Sweepr

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GTX 1080 Ti an absolute beast at 4K. GTX 1070 ahead of Fury X in Doom (Vulkan) and Hitman (DX12) with the new driver:









Some game settings (especially texture sizes) were not friendly to the Radeon R9 Fury X's 4GB of RAM. Where necessary, we reduced these settings to prevent crippling performance issues. All other in-game settings remained the same between the Fury X and the Nvidia cards on the bench.

...I'd love to say something interesting about these results, but the Ti defies me with another record-breaking performance. Perhaps it's more interesting that the once-closely-matched GTX 1070 and R9 Fury X now diverge quite a bit with Hitman's DX12 renderer at 4K.

Whither AMD in these results? We decided not to include the R9 Fury X in our final tally, since not all of our games ran acceptably on it and retail stock of that card seems to be drying up ahead of the Radeon RX Vega launch. Still, some back-of-the-napkin math suggests Nvidia is extracting about twice the performance that Fiji offered from the same power budget. That's an impressive achievement.

http://techreport.com/review/31562/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-graphics-card-reviewed
 

imaheadcase

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Now for Evga and others to show what they got. I hope they are at least around in 2 months.

Honestly i don't know what Nvidia was thinking with FE stuff. Its silly from every perspective. The same with Geforce Experience wanting you to log in, makes no sense as well. They could of at least let you install certain parts of it like they do with drivers. I just want shadowplay and nothing else.
 

imaheadcase

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So along with Computerbase and PCGH, GN also found it was throttling hard:



So once again, those "Premium" FE coolers are junk and heavily limiting a very expensive GPU. Wait for custom models unless you plan on spending another $100 on cooling.

Why does it matter as long as it is performing fine?
 

Bacon1

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Why does it matter as long as it is performing fine?

Personally if I spent $700 on a GPU I'd want it to not throttle when gaming or sound like a jet engine if I want to overclock it. Amazing amount of well deserved hate over the 290(x) reference cooler, but when Nvidia calls it "Premium" people eat it up. Considering Nvidia sold this as a card that could hit 2000Mhz but it throttles down to 1500-1600s I'd be pretty pissed. Why wouldn't you wait for better coolers?
 
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railven

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I didn't realize reviews were out today. Dunno what smoke Nvidia marketing was smoking but that "new cooler" shows zero differences in the few reviews I looked over versus the Titan Xp cooler. Hell, I'd argue it's the same cooler haha.

Welps, here is to hoping local retail has it tomorrow. Thinking of snagging the EVGA 3-fan design if its out, otherwise going reference and waiting for a good CLC if I don't mickey mouse something of my own.
 
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Aikouka

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Keep in mind that now that there isn't a premium on these base cards, they'll likely cost less than third-party-cooled variants. (To be fair, that's just conjecture, but I'd be surprised if the non-shroud coolers are cheaper.) Anyway, the reason why I bring this up is that there are a good number of people out there that are willing to drop $700 on a card and water cool it to get the most performance. These same people don't care if it has Nvidia's Transformer-wannabe shroud or eVGA's iCX cooler... they're going to remove it just the same!

In other words, they don't care if the stock cooler can't keep it cool enough to maintain higher clocks, and won't have to wait until April for the AIB units. (April is when Anandtech's review said we should see them.) I would imagine that their most important question right now is whether or not the Titan XP's water block will fit the 1080 Ti. (Theoretically, it should?)
 
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ddogg

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Keep in mind that now that there isn't a premium on these base cards, they'll likely cost less than third-party-cooled variants. (To be fair, that's just conjecture, but I'd be surprised if the non-shroud coolers are cheaper.) Anyway, the reason why I bring this up is that there are a good number of people out there that are willing to drop $700 on a card and water cool it to get the most performance. These same people don't care if it has Nvidia's Transformer-wannabe shroud or eVGA's iCX cooler... they're going to remove it just the same!

In other words, they don't care if the stock cooler can't keep it cool enough to maintain higher clocks, and won't have to wait until April for the AIB units. (April is when Anandtech's review said we should see them.) I would imagine that their most important question right now is whether or not the Titan XP's water block will fit the 1080 Ti. (Theoretically, it should?)
Yes the Titan XP block will fit since it's the same PCB. I have one sitting on my table ready to replace the junk founders edition cooler.

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Actaeon

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Wow, the FE cooler is junk. After reading about the improvements for this new cooler I thought FE's blower style may be the right choice if I decide to do SLI them. Looks like 3rd party ones are the way to go.

Anyone see any benchmarks for a 980 Ti SLI versus 1080 Ti? The 1080 Ti is about 70% faster than a stock clock 980 Ti at 4K, but mine are OC'd by a good amount and don't throttle so I think real world is closer to 50%. On games that scale well with SLI I will be better off with my current setup but open to the idea of going to a single faster card.
 

moonbogg

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Got my water block sitting right here. Tomorrow morning F5 madness. 980ti's JUST sold on ebay. I'm all ready to ditch SLI, probably forever.
I hope this card runs mass effect Andromeda really good because that game actually looks pretty awesome. It looks like a star citizen-type-game that actually got finished.
 

ddogg

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Got my water block sitting right here. Tomorrow morning F5 madness. 980ti's JUST sold on ebay. I'm all ready to ditch SLI, probably forever.
I hope this card runs mass effect Andromeda really good because that game actually looks pretty awesome. It looks like a star citizen-type-game that actually got finished.
Make sure the custom aib card you're looking to purchase uses the reference PCB as a lot of them don't. The Titan XP waterblocks (from any manufacturer) are only compatible with the reference design at the point. EK may release newer TI blocks later to work with the other custom variants.
I'm greatly looking forward to Mass effect as well. Hopefully it's run well on PC hardware.

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Insomniator

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8800 ultra was released 10 years ago at $699. Forget what the Titan X costs or anything else --- this is a good deal (for ultra high end) and don't tell me you didn't expect Nvidia to price this thing at $850+.

A 1080 for $500 is also super nice... but I know a few members are about to chime in with 10 paragraphs of research about how this is a bad deal based on previous gen performance differences and other factors they make up in their heads.
 
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