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PeterScott

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The issue here is that whatever they have added to increase the value might have delayed relevance like GCN suffered. Raw performance increases with dx12 vulkan and dx11 are more important.

It looks like they did both. Typical performance increase along with new features.
 

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50%-70% almost never happens.

Really 25-30% is the typical generation and it will be enough for lots of people, and not everyone is on 1000 series cards.

This generation packs something beyond typical performance upgrade. The most interesting thing will what happens with the RT/Tensor HW going forward.

Proper and full RT in games is so far off that implementing it in next week's cards is a mere sales gimmick. I care exactly 0% about it on the cards. The new Ti it's likely performance increase over my 1080, however, may be very useful.
 

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Proper and full RT in games is so far off that implementing it in next week's cards is a mere sales gimmick. I care exactly 0% about it on the cards. The new Ti it's likely performance increase over my 1080, however, may be very useful.
Yea I'm not even considering RT in my upgrade path. I'm just curious of the performance compared to what I have.
 

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Yup! The question now is when I need that increase... So I'm no real hurry to buy.
I've been spoiled with my 1440p gsync monitor but wouldn't mind going 4k it's just a pain selling the old monitor and I'd have to go with no gsync and 60hz so for now I'll wait to see performance results.
 

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I've been spoiled with my 1440p gsync monitor but wouldn't mind going 4k it's just a pain selling the old monitor and I'd have to go with no gsync and 60hz so for now I'll wait to see performance results.

Smart thinking right there. Holding onto my 1440p myself even with the eventual upgrade - means I can turn up the eye candy!
 

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Proper and full RT in games is so far off that implementing it in next week's cards is a mere sales gimmick. .

RT doesn't have to be "Proper and full". It's going to be a hybrid approach, and the whole point of NVidia's tensor/RT implementation is that you can use a fraction of the rays to do a full ray trace, and using Tensor cores to denoise.

Given the real time Demos shown, including in the Unreal game engine, I bet there will game updates announced Monday along with the consumer cards, so it won't be that long until RT effects show up in games.

Though I am more interested to see if the Tensor and RT APIs will be exposed for application developers and not just game developers.

But make no mistake this is a lot more important than a sales gimmick.
 

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2 days ago rumors say 2.5GHz boost clocks for Turing.

Today its down to 2GHz boost clocks.

I'm guessing the closer to release the more accurate the rumors lol.
 

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2 days ago rumors say 2.5GHz boost clocks for Turing.

Today its down to 2GHz boost clocks.

I'm guessing the closer to release the more accurate the rumors lol.

2ghz boost clocks would be sad given Pascal already does that no problem.
 

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I fully appreciate your tone. It seems like this is the unfortunate truth. I'd gladly drop $1000 for a 4k high refresh rate display and $800-1000 for a card that was fast enough to drive it, but nvidia is pricing all of the things we could want into the stratosphere.

Well this isn't exactly a surprise, the pricing and lack of competition. The writing was on the wall. That's why 3 years ago I went with a new 1080p 144hz display even though 1440p or 4k was available. The price on the monitors was only a small part of that. I didn't want to spend thousands on upcoming gpus. Now I can easily live with either used top cards or the new cards at the $300 price point.
 

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Well this isn't exactly a surprise, the pricing and lack of competition. The writing was on the wall. That's why 3 years ago I went with a new 1080p 144hz display even though 1440p or 4k was available. The price on the monitors was only a small part of that. I didn't want to spend thousands on upcoming gpus. Now I can easily live with either used top cards or the new cards at the $300 price point.

Yeah, that seems to make heaps of sense. I am sure 4k does look a little better than my 1440p screen but when you consider the extra for the screen, then the extra 500 AUD or so spent to max every GPU upgrade....well I would rather have almost as good visuals with my mid range card AND a return flight to London/Rome/Paris every few years. Thousands of dollars is just too much money to spend for the small difference it makes to my recreation. Not sure I can wait a few months for the 2060 (using a backup 7970 atm!) so I think I am going to look for a decent price on a used 1080 in a week or two.
 

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2ghz boost clocks would be sad given Pascal already does that no problem.
This list/GPU-Z boost clocks they show are considerably lower than the cards actual boost clocks on current cards. I imagine the same will be true going forward. Official 2K boost clocks would be about 300mhz higher than the current official boost clocks. This still may mean there is a significant increase over the current generation.
 

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The listed boost clock of the 2080ti is lower than the listed boost clock of the 1080ti, so the 2080ti would have to overclock a little better than the 1080ti just to stay even in overclock speeds.
 

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I've heard we can't really go off of clocks alone and have to consider cores and everything else. Hopefully some benchmarks soon.
The listed boost clock of the 2080ti is lower than the listed boost clock of the 1080ti, so the 2080ti would have to overclock a little better than the 1080ti just to stay even in overclock speeds.
 

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Memory speed of the 2070 is about 70% faster than the 1070.
2080 memory is about 40% faster than the 1080.
2080ti memory is about 30% faster than the 1080ti.
 

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I'm sure the all new SM is faster than the old one.

I am betting it's highly variable, depending on how it was coded in previous games, and of course writing code to take specific advantage of changes.
 

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I am betting it's highly variable, depending on how it was coded in previous games, and of course writing code to take specific advantage of changes.
“Turing-based GPUs feature a new streaming multiprocessor (SM) architecture that adds an integer execution unit executing in parallel with the floating point datapath, and a new unified cache architecture with double the bandwidth of the previous generation. Combined with new graphics technologies such as variable rate shading, the Turing SM achieves unprecedented levels of performance per core.”

That was the most I could find on it.
 
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The whole paragraph suggests something worrisome however.

In terms of frame rate, Shadow of the Tomb Raider ran at a mostly consistent 50-57 fps, which is impressive giving the game is running on a single GPU and in such an early state – on top of all the new ray tracing techniques.

We also played a variety of other PC games that shall not be named, and saw performance run in excess of 100 fps at 4K and Ultra settings. Unfortunately, we also don’t know how much power these GPUs had to draw to reach this level of performance.

GPUs plural. Wouldn't a 1080Ti SLI setup perform similarly?
 

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Yea does that mean they used 2 2080ti's??

The way it was written, as well as the photos of the cards with the nvlink, suggests that they are talking about two cards, regarding the 4k/ultra/100fps statement.

Unless I am misunderstanding something here, because I am not a native English speaker.

However, maybe all they want to highlight, is actually the performance of the nvlinked cards, being possibly quite better than SLIed cards? Dunno.

If that was the case, shouldn't Jensen provide data?
 
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