GeForce GTX 1180, 1170 and 1160 coming in August. Prices inside

[darkswordsman17]

"Its official" by having some random unknown youtuber fake an email that no one has verified and wcfspam reported on. Oh Goodie, did he also receive an email with the release info on the PS5, xbox 2, half life 3, cyberpunk 2077 and the new doom nukem game?

We already have a good idea on those. New Xboxes in 2020 (that info came from Microsoft - think it was first a leak of internal documents and then was also said during investor conference where they were talking about their roadmaps for various products and services; there's going to be 2 of them, one is going to focus on streaming games, the other is a typical console), and likely a new Playstation next year (that comes from AMD saying they have a new console coming next year, the info about Xbox in 2020, and then the Navi reports where it was allegedly being developed with Sony in mind, and is set to release next year).

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Wait what?? There is a new xbox console coming out next year?? I am pretty sure they said not till 2020 or am I wrong??

Edit: Sorry I miss read, its for the PS5 and I thought you wrote xbox for next year.

 

[DaveSimmons]

For this possible PS5 "next year," did AMD make it clear whether they just meant development kits using sample APUs instead of mass production?

 

[Headfoot]

That email looks really fake

 

[PeterScott]

FWIW: Latest Pricing rumor from WCCFTECH:
https://wccftech.com/nvidias-next-g...cifications-pricing-and-nomenclature-details/

• The 120W NVIDIA next-gen Turing GPU will be priced around $499 MSRP.
• The 150W NVIDIA next-gen Turing GPU will be priced around $599 MSRP.
• The 180W NVIDIA next-gen Turing GPU will be priced around $699-749 MSRP.

 

[happy medium]

FWIW: Latest Pricing rumor from WCCFTECH:
https://wccftech.com/nvidias-next-g...cifications-pricing-and-nomenclature-details/

• The 120W NVIDIA next-gen Turing GPU will be priced around $499 MSRP.
• The 150W NVIDIA next-gen Turing GPU will be priced around $599 MSRP.
• The 180W NVIDIA next-gen Turing GPU will be priced around $699-749 MSRP.

$749 ,180 watt will be the gtx1190, and will be 40% faster than a gtx1080ti.
$600 ,150 watt will be the gtx1180 and will be 20 % faster than a gtx1080ti.
$500 ,120 watt will be the gtx1170 and will be as fast as a gtx1080ti.

$350 , 100 watt GV106, gtx1160, will equal a gtx1080.





All three will be GV104 chips.
And later a GV106, gtx1160 chip.
Thats my guess, give or take 5%.

 

[whm1974]

$749 ,180 watt will be the gtx1190, and will be 40% faster than a gtx1080ti.
$600 ,150 watt will be the gtx1180 and will be 20 % faster than a gtx1080ti.
$500 ,120 watt will be the gtx1170 and will be as fast as a gtx1080ti.

$350 , 100 watt GV106, gtx1160, will equal a gtx1080.





All three will be GV104 chips.
And later a GV106, gtx1160 chip.
Thats my guess, give or take 5%.

I would buy the GTX 1160 once it drops to $250. So when will we see a 1150 Ti?

 

[happy medium]

I would buy the GTX 1160 once it drops to $250. So when will we see a 1150 Ti?

Well your not gonna get a gtx1160 that is as fast as a gtx1080 for $250 this round.mabe the gtx2050ti in 2 years?

I'm wondering if they will even make a 1150ti. I believe a cut down GV106 will not require 6 pin power and be almost as fast as a gtx1070.

 

[amenx]

LOL... we're so hungry for info that any rumor is jumped on as fact. WCCF doesnt have to be spot on with what actually happens, just be near to what is general speculated is enough to claim credit for their site.

 

[happy medium]

LOL... we're so hungry for info that any rumor is jumped on as fact. WCCF doesnt have to be spot on with what actually happens, just be near to what is general speculated is enough to claim credit for their site.

To be honest, its not rocket science predicting Nvidia releases.
Its the finer details and features that are hard to get information about.
Most people that been around a while can guess performance and prices fairly accurately.

Im just wondering if Nvidia will add another tier called the gtx1190?
Or mabe call it something else?

 

[whm1974]

Well your not gonna get a gtx1160 that is as fast as a gtx1080 for $250 this round.mabe the gtx2050ti in 2 years?

I'm wondering if they will even make a 1150ti. I believe a cut down GV106 will not require 6 pin power and be almost as fast as a gtx1070.

Nvidia has to offer something for the lower range market as most gamers are not going to spend $350 on up for a video card. Looks like I will be keeping my GTX 970 for a few more years.

 

[happy medium]

Nvidia has to offer something for the lower range market as most gamers are not going to spend $350 on up for a video card. Looks like I will be keeping my GTX 970 for a few more years.

Yea I guess some form of GV108 with gtx1060 performance will come out by next year, but that's going to be the new low end htcp card I'm guessing under 60 watts.
Mabe a integrated graphics competitor?

 

[whm1974]

Yea I guess some form of GV108 with gtx1060 performance will come out by next year, but that's going to be the new low end htcp card I'm guessing under 60 watts.
Mabe a integrated graphics competitor?

I highly doubt anyone could squeeze either 1060 3GB or 6GB performance into an iGPU solution, not anytime soon anyway. Maybe a 1050 at the most and it would be some time before we that yet.

 

[happy medium]

I highly doubt anyone could squeeze either 1060 3GB or 6GB performance into an iGPU solution, not anytime soon anyway. Maybe a 1050 at the most and it would be some time before we that yet.

I thought those new Vega based APU' s were already hitting gtx1050 performance?
I'm sure next year they should be close to gtx1060 performance. And we won't see a low end Nvidia card I'm guessing till next year or late this year.

 

[whm1974]

I thought those new Vega based APU' s were already hitting gtx1050 performance?
I'm sure next year they should be close to gtx1060 performance. And we won't see a low end Nvidia card I'm guessing till next year or late this year.

Not quite 1030 performance.

 

[darkswordsman17]

For this possible PS5 "next year," did AMD make it clear whether they just meant development kits using sample APUs instead of mass production?

No, but I'm not seeing why they'd need a huge leadup on that. Between PS4 Pros (have a hunch this will be the target spec, this way they'll have plenty of extra CPU power, and probably a hefty amount of GPU left to take advantage of in the final hardware), Ryzen APUs, and probably some pairing of Ryzen CPUs with Vega or even Polaris they can offer dev kits that will let them get a decent idea of the hardware before the final production systems. That's kinda the whole point of making the switch to x86-64 with the current gen stuff, it'll make transitions easier. The PS4 Pro allows them a very good base to start with as well, and likely even if the framerates aren't great, the extra power of the new hardware will let them brute force it up to release-worthy for launch, and then they can optimize their game engines from there.

Also, there were 3 years between the standard PS4 and the PS4 Pro, and another 3 years would make sense. Its enough time that people shouldn't feel like they're constantly pushed to upgrade, but it also will bring a sizable boost in performance and process improvements seem to be taking about 3 years to really be worthwhile (so they can add power while switching to new process).

 

[happy medium]

Not quite 1030 performance.

Honestly, I dont consider 1030' s and 460' s gaming cards.
I dont really follow them.

Last year and this year a gtx1050ti 4gb or gtx960 4gb is for me the low end and next year at this time they will be obsolete. A rx470 or gtx 1060 3gb will be low end next year.

 

[mohit9206]

Well your not gonna get a gtx1160 that is as fast as a gtx1080 for $250 this round.mabe the gtx2050ti in 2 years?

I'm wondering if they will even make a 1150ti. I believe a cut down GV106 will not require 6 pin power and be almost as fast as a gtx1070.

You're a very optimistic person aren't you? 1160 as fast as 1080? No way that will happen. Keeping expectations in check, 1070 level performance will be what Nvidia will give you if they're feeling a bit generous. They don't want to make their higher end cards obsolete considering that maximum amount of PC gamers still play at 1080p.

 

[Qwertilot]

Ummmm, no?

They're on 1080p because the monitors & gfx cards too expensive. Monitors cheaper now and if they can deliver a cheap enough 'decent' 1440/4k experience there's a *lot* of upgrade driver potential.

 

[crisium]

I do not expect a 120w 12nm card to equal a GTX 1080 Ti. Why would there be a bigger jump from Pascal 16nm to Volta/Ampere/Turing 12nm than we saw from Maxwell 28nm to 16nm?

If those rumours are accurate, then we can go by history. Nvidia's 120w (let's call it a GTX 2060) card would then perform similar to the GTX 1080. That article also says the 1080 will get a $50 price drop. So 2060 at $500, and 1080 clearance at $450. If the 120w was 1080 Ti performance, they would have to drop 1080's to much less than $450 as no one on the planet would buy a 1080 at that point. Here the 1080 still (temporarily) exists for users not interested in a $50 premium for energy efficiency.

Following the internal logic of these rumours... Nvidia wants to increase margins even more without dropping prices (onus is on AMD, who has the power hungrier Vega 64 at the same price). A 2060 should be a smaller chip and cheaper to produce than a 1080.

The problem with this rumour is what about current users of $200-$400 GPUs that wish to upgrade? Many of these users will refuse to pay $500. I would only guess (assuming this is all true) that again they will drop prices after AMD does or whenever sales begin to slow down.

After all, what is the alternative the current 1060 user has but to wait? They won't jump ship to AMD which has no path. 1060 is already about as fast as an Xbox 1 X. Nvidia will offer them an upgrade path eventually, but there's no impending rush to get them to upgrade until stock begins piling up.

Not convinced rumour isn't rubbish though.

 

[PeterScott]

Following the internal logic of these rumours... Nvidia wants to increase margins even more without dropping prices (onus is on AMD, who has the power hungrier Vega 64 at the same price). A 2060 should be a smaller chip and cheaper to produce than a 1080.

12nm FFN is really not a significant process shrink though. Not anywhere near what the 16nm and 12nm names suggest. So the chips won't be that much smaller. I definitely wouldn't be surprise to see some rebrands in there. Like the GTX 1060 chips being used in the next generation GTX 1150.

The problem with this rumour is what about current users of $200-$400 GPUs that wish to upgrade? Many of these users will refuse to pay $500. I would only guess (assuming this is all true) that again they will drop prices after AMD does or whenever sales begin to slow down.

I definitely would refuse to pay $500, and I hope more refuse to as well. The problem as I see it, is that the whole retail chain has discovered that enthusiasts will keep paying double price for GPUs, and RAM to get their systems. So I think they now want to milk the enthusiast for everything they can.

x60 series cards go form $200 cards, to $300 cards, to $500 cards. Why not if people keep paying?

 

[tamz_msc]

All this splitting hairs regarding what essentially is going to be transition akin to what Kepler 700 was from Kepler 600.

1070->1160(1920 CUDA cores)
1080->1170(2560 CUDA cores)
1080Ti/Titan Xp->1180(3584/3840 CUDA cores)
1180Ti will be >600 sq. mm and over 5000 CUDA cores.

12nm FFN doesn't bring any density improvement over 16nm FF+, so the gains if any, will come in the voltage/frequency characteristics. TDPs will be comparable to the corresponding Pascal parts. Die sizes will be the same as they were for GP102/104 and the only new die will be the one that is the 1180Ti. NVIDIA will throw in some ray-tracing special sauce and call it a day.

That's what Turing is gonna be.

 

[Head1985]

Everyone is too greedy after mining craze.They didnt realise they was selling 80-90% cards to miners from half 2017 to half 2018.They probaly thinking it was only 30% or so and now they have tons of old cards that nobody want buy and they dont want reduce price.
500USD For 2060?That much should cost full fat BIG DIE like in old times or in worst case midrange(x04 die) GTX2080.

 

[happy medium]

A gtx1060 is 120 watts correct?
12nm will give a 40% power reduction. The next card performing in the 1060 bracket should not use a 6 pin connector.

Wasn't a gtx1060 as fast as a gtx980? And it was a gp106 chip.

I believe the next 1160 will be a cut down GV104 chip. The gtx1160 will be good competition for a Vega 64, should be a gtx1070ti equal.

The next GV106 chip (1150ti) will be as fast as a gtx1060 or faster.

 

[rainy]

12nm will give a 40% power reduction.

From where you have got that number?
12nm of TSMC is a bit improved 16nm in similar way as 12nm of GlobalFoundries (a bit better than 14nm).
This is more marketing than anything else.